slavery (slav·er·y) noun 1. the state of being under the control of another person 2. the practice of owning slaves 3. a mode of production in which slaves constitute the principal work force. Let's say that you decided you were tired of the Government plundering your paycheck for over 30% of your income each week, and you decided to stop paying your income taxes. What would happen to you? :whip: At first, you might get a strongly worded letter from the IRS, or an audit. But eventually, if you still refused to pay your income taxes, men with guns would come to your home and take you to prison until you did pay. If you refused to be arrested, you would be shot. So at the end of the day, income tax is being taken from you by the government through threat of force, imprisonment, or violence. Nearly one-third of your labor is being taken, at point of gun, from the Government. How is this not slavery? How can any nation that forces its citizens to pay a substantial percentage of thier own income to the government, or else, be considered a truly free nation? atriot:
Sounds like extortion by the government placing fear of jail (or possible death if you refuse arrest) in ppl. Imagine if we brought fear into everyone with no government to scare any further? Things would be fairer because the weak would have a fighting chance to succeed in life the well way. Anarchy is the key to the utopia. And is a key to no longer paying taxes. Everyone would just help themselves for survival and justice under anarchism. We are not free till anarchy rules with no man, woman, or God to rule over us.
I'm definetly NOT in favor of Anarchy. Everybody just "helping themselves" to survival sounds suspicously to me like the Strong ruling the Weak. I'm just saying that taxation should be on a voluntary basis, such as replacing the extortion of Income Tax with a National Sales Tax, in which your consumption would be taxed, not your Labor & Income.
The federal government has no authority to levy direct taxes anyway. This power is given exclusively to the states in the Constitution. Now, there are those that say this was changed by the 16th Amendment. However, this was never legally ratified, rendering it null and void. Therefore, a federal income tax is illegal.
I agree there should be rather a national sales tax. I wonder why they havent made it that way if there is a reason as of yet.
Voluntarilly let them arrest you. Take the punishment with a smile they will pay your food and bed and clothing for the time your in there causing them to lose money. If enough people do this it would cause major disruption towards the system.
People need to remember that the government is sypposed to serve them, not the other way around. Almost everyone would like to see the income tax gone. However, they seem to think that they don't have the authority to abolish it, even though they're supposed to be running things.
Before one rushes to push for another form of tax, you should do more research into the whole situation. The US Federal government did fine prior to the income tax without directly taxing US citizens. Interesting enough, 1913 saw the creation of the Federal Reserve and the income tax. Do they go hand in hand? I have read that our founding fathers rebelled against the king for being taxed at a high rate of ... 3%. Anarchy is not about everyone just helping themself to whatever they want reguardless of others. That seems to be accomplished pretty well with the current system. Anarchy is simply about no one having authority over others.
your taxes go to the guys with guns who also make sure that those people in prisons doesn't rape you asses... you use the road that is payed by those money... You drink the water which is clead by the government... there are powerlines all over... if you don't wanna pay taxes don't earn money... just live for yourself, if you live in society you have to accept taxes, otherwise just move to the forrest and stop complaining... You have no right to complain about taxes unless you can live with dying from the tiniest deseases and not going to school, being mugged by someone who's stronger than you, have no cars and no roads... no phones no internet no nothing... only yourself and your mitts... dying at the age of 30 and so on... stop bitch, if you want a revolution then do something about it!
interestin how the IMF (american chief) and the World Bank (european chief) for years, have been tryin(even pressurisin) to get the tax-free countries in the arabian gulf to apply taxes - in the name of expandin the government's revenue streams! (reform for admission to the group)
I understand that taxes are a neccasary evil in a civilized society. But the current system is extortion. The Government forces you to pay them about 30% of your income in exchange for not being put in prison. A voluntary system, like the FairTax plan (National Sales Tax) not only takes away the extortion & force, it also makes it so that everybody is being taxed fairly & equally. No longer can organized crime, illegal aliens, those who are paid in cash without a paper trail, and any of the estimated 50 million Americans who never file an income tax form escape the system. Then the over-all rate of taxation will go down.
"if you live in society you have to accept taxes, otherwise just move to the forrest and stop complaining..." Exactly. If you don't want to be a part of this society, leave. No one is forcing you to pay taxes. You are paying them as payment for the services this system is providing for you. If you're tired of everything society has given you, go find a nice spot in the wilderness and live off the land. But don't expect a free ride.
Thinking you have the right to take a percentage of people's hard-earned money is wrong, not to mention that it's illegal. 30% is far too much. The country was doing fine before income tax. Sales tax is more than enough to run things on.
I would consider a sales tax if food was exempt. And I don't mean comodity trading. They should have to pay capital gains. Only Food meant for consumption, and perhaps utilities. And inheritance tax is not a death tax people. Don't be fed that crap. The rich only grow richer. A wealthy farmer who wants to leave his farm to his offspring knows all about it and plans ahead. Those that want to do away with it are those that want to inherit millions free and clear.
..................................................................................................... We have a Sales Tax of 6.5%, ...........in New York, I think its 7% As Cigarettes have deomonstrated excessively large sales taxes lead to excessive measures to avoid them.
How do you suggest we maintain roads, make adjustments to the legal system, provide for public safety (law enforcement, emergency services, etc.), inspect imported foods, inspect domestic foods, inspect toys and goods for dangerous chemicals et cetera. The point is that income taxes provide for many basic (and also many utterly ridiculous and unnecessary) facets that allow humans to live in relative prosperity (compared to how the world's population lived 100 years ago). Also, if you refuse to be arrested, unless you are armed or are threatening the life or health of someone else or fleeing, you won't get shot. You may state that you do not consent to being arrested, but do not resist. That will land you in jail. There is no explicit threat of violence (prison violence is implicit) or physical harm. Consider also: without income taxes, if you were in an accident you would be unable to be transported to the hospital in an ambulance, you would either a. have to walk or bike on the road because of potholes or b. pay to drive a toll only road. When you were getting attacked by a mugger or serial killer, you would have to have a prearranged deal with the police to be protected, or pay on the spot. Would you sacrifice all the basic human rights for the right to spend a portion of your money on something? I should hope not.
