al-Qaeda's existance before 9/11

Discussion in 'Conspiracy' started by Art Delfo, Mar 24, 2007.

  1. Art Delfo

    Art Delfo It is dark

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    So I watched a documentary on YouTube but I forget what it was called. I think it was called "The Power of Nightmares:Rise of the Politics of Fear". If I'm not mistaken it was by the BBC. Anyway one of the claims was that al-Qaeda did not actually exist before 9/11 but was made up as a court room lie of somekind which they adminastrastion linked to the attacks. Hence they dreamed up an fantasy terrorist organization which had agents everywhere. But really Bin-Laden and his cornies were actually quite a small group. Any turth to this?
     
  2. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=BUN20051120&articleId=1291

    "Shortly before his untimely death, former British Foreign Secretary Robin Cook told the House of Commons that "Al Qaeda" is not really a terrorist group but a database of international mujaheddin and arms smugglers used by the CIA and Saudis to funnel guerrillas, arms, and money into Soviet-occupied Afghanistan. Courtesy of World Affairs, a journal based in New Delhi, WMR can bring you an important excerpt from an Apr.-Jun. 2004 article by Pierre-Henry Bunel, a former agent for French military intelligence."

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,12780,1523838,00.html

    "Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan. Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences"
     
  3. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Most of the people serving in Iraq and Afghanistan were just being born when the seeds were being sowed by the U.S. and U.S.S.R. for the problems that we now see in those countries. There's still many young people who don't think the U.S. was at least partly responsible for these problems.

    There was little or no outcry in the U.S. about Saddam in the 80s when he was at his worst. The U.S. was coming off a humiliating experience with the Iran hostage crisis and at the time there was some satisfaction in the U.S. in seeing Iraq cause problems for Iran.

    The way the facilities that the CIA set up in Afghanistan in the 80s were left unsecured was another blunder. It became a playground and the Honeycomb Hideout for groups like bin Laden. People just don't want to admit it.

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  4. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Shaggie, who do you think controls Al-Qaeda?
     
  5. cvx

    cvx Member

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    When you think about simple things too much they become skewed and complicated.

    Al Qaeda = Gang
    Bloods = Gang
    Crips = Gang

    Noone and everyone runs the shit. Its all bad, buncha guns, mustaches, drugs, sunglasses ect. Just go over there and shoot em, fuck em they shouldn't have been there.
     
  6. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Um, no Al-qaeda is way more sophisticated than the bloods and crips man. And they are run through various intelligence agencies and play the role in global politics of providing the "pretext" for G8 countries to involve themselves economically and militarily in sovereign countries
     
  7. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    fuck man. my head ish spinning. All ive been doing the past 3 days is holeing up and watching documentaries on this stuff because I have a thirst for the knowledge right now, quite strongly.

    Its so crazy to imagine life before 911. All throughout highschool I felt stupid because I didint get what the US gov was shovelling out under the context of 'information'to the public, and I feel now at least partly educated. And fucking angry you know??

    I dont know all that muc about Al Qaeda per say, but it seems to me that the hatred the US gov is fueling towards the middle east is gonna get worse unless we educate our children in anti racist ways. blah. I dont know if what i wrote really made that much senese, I havent really slept all that much lately.
     
  8. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Many would think Al-qaeda was created out of Hatred for US foreign policy in the Middle east, and many terrorist groups have been, but Al-Qaeda literally was created by the CIA and to this day is used to provide the "provacation" to invade sovereign countries that the US has interests vested in.

    By the way your quite beautiful if thats a picture of ya, with all due respect :)
     
  9. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    Good reply. And thanks angel :) yeah its me
     
  10. Cate8

    Cate8 Senior Member

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    *was* me. im not a mermaid~!! that yall know of :)
     
  11. shaggie

    shaggie Senior Member

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    Alex Jones

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  12. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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  13. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    hahaha damnn i thought i found ariel....maybe next time :p
     
  14. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Haha....now shaggie i would have to say you just spouted a conspiracy!! how dare you [​IMG]
     
  15. evsride

    evsride are you irie?

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    Al Qaeda translates loosely in Arabic or Farsi to mean "the base" probably a term thought of during the Mujahadeen's rise in Soviet occupied Afghanistan. The British and American intelligence services/criminal war funding networks likely had a database keeping all of their deals and partners lined up in their fight against the USSR.

    Order out of chaos is the name of the globalist game....I say take em out back behind the chemical shed....nah, unlike them I still believe in a trial by a jury of their peers.

    Long live the Constitution and power to the peaceful!
     
  16. Ruberx Omati

    Ruberx Omati The Truth

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    um...i actually am surprised a little by what I've read. tell ya what...why don't you go play some medieval total war and that'll sort your head out sharpish.

    i'm gonna say nothing when it comes to this kinda bollocks. its quite difficult finding the truth between...."mass murderer" and "freedom fighter" with CIA stool pidgeon in the way

    bye
     
  17. aspirine

    aspirine Member

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    The book is called "The Cutout". It is a novel. It talks about Bin Laudin and his Crew. It was published in January 2001. It must have been written at least two years before it was published. The author is a retired CIA annalist.
    (an analist is similar to a proctologist?)

    This is what is called hard evidence.

    So much for the documentary.


     
  18. mbworkrelated

    mbworkrelated Banned

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    The programme and what I think:
    http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239117
     
  19. ahazmat

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    Uh "The Cutout" could be time travel produced disinformation. The Bushies can time travel.
     

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