-been wondering for a long time. i can't really make alot of sense out of it. could be a combination of memory and the unique (because everyone has their perspective) atom(s) used to create the core of our mindsd. but this is just big guess. -i thought you agreed that it not knowing something doesn't mean "God" did it.
-if light is just one type of radiation on the electro magnetic spectrum why is it so special. what about heat and radio waves. -oh just because someone said that. and from here on the rest of what you say is based on this. i think its also rather suspicious because in that time only light could be mentioned. i don't think this is special. even if there for some unknown reason always is light , then i don't think it proves that there is such a thing as "God". for me it doesn't seem intentional and directed specifically enough towards humans (much less religion) to come to the conclusion that it is something happening "on purpose". everything looks too coincidental.
Oh so now it's co-incidental, it's not this beautiful defined scientific thing called Natural Selection...? Or is it? OR was is it Evolution, or EVILUTION Or... Or... Wha... Wha... WHAT? *Bristish Accent* What's that you say, man, it's all bloody coincidence...? * There goes your faith, it's crumbling at the core. *SMACK SMACK* Even Albert Einstein was smart enough to realize "GOD DOESN'T THROUGH DICE" and nothing in the UNIVERSE happens by "chance" "luck" or "coincidence"... Which is why till his dying day he never really liked "QUANTUM MECHANICS". I do believe my work here is done.
well i never claimed that everything was defined. i was talking about the coincidence towards humans. there seem to be rules. i mean, it looks like they do not have much human about them in particular.
Funny you mention, yah there is LOVE! ALL! UNCONDITIONALLY! and sings the song DONT WORRY BE HAPPY....
I believe it's Relaxxx that defined humans as "complex configurations of Energy"... What's human in that?
i think that seems pretty accurate from what i know. that description doesn't seem like it has necessarily something to do with humans. which is my point.
ok, I read the first page, and the proof, and all I would like to put in is that the entire Thread Start has NO PROOF IN GOD! Im sorry but we are nothing but ignorant human beings that live our lives and then die. We dont know shit about where we came from or where we are going! how can people ACTUALLY be set on something when you see HOW MANY OPTIONS there are! Religion is STUPID. Its for people who are scared. Death Will come to all. The answers will FOLLOW.
Yes, our bodies will die. Nobody is debating this lol. But all of us are ignorant human beings? Well now, isnt that about just as collectivley inclusive through definition as the secular religions?
We have evolved alot through the years, learned more and more, but we still are ignorant. There so much that we havent figured out. The questions to why we are here, and our purposes in life arent answered. Hell, the egyptions could have been right with their religion they did make pyramids that we cant possibly duplicate, and had computers in their day, archeaologists found them. who knows whose right? since you arent a penacostal, you dont fall down or shake or talk in tounges. Thats fucked up. If people WHO ARENT that religion DONT do those things, then why would you believe that its right, and not fake. They put it in their minds, so that they believe in it and that the people who DONT have this connection with GOD, is because they do not have the faith. as a penacostal.
Science is so amazing. Tell me if you think photosynthesis, humans healing, rain for survival, sun for energy, the human brain, all the diff species of animals, other planets, fruits and vegetables, the earth placed just right for sunlight, giving birth, DNA, the act of sex to fulfill the earth, and many other MIRACLES to all be a coincidence, and just created by billions of years. Any SMART logic would to believe theres something after this life, another dimension with a creator. I mean, you DO live to die, right?
Idiots live to die. They deny themselves and forsake this world for an imaginary paradise. Because they believe God has a plan and heaven exists for them, this fragile planet is expendable and not their responsibility. If there really was a God testing souls they would all fail this test miserably. A wise person lives to live, love, reproduce and make this world a better place for his children.
And some would say that you are harvesting maya and, in turn, are filled with ignorance, so what does your opinion mean over anyone elses? Honestly it doesnt mean anything but its just as valid. And also, this wise person who lives to live and love, well, um, that is exactly what God realized souls do. Some people are full of themselves and think they can know God by thought, and these people are deulded by maya just as much as the physical 'fact' people are. And about testing souls, obviously this is all a matter of what you believe, but I am under the impression that we are testing ourselves with karmic vibration that we energeticaly push out of ourselves, harvesting our own reality. It's not a matter of a test, its a matter of liberation from dualistic confusion.
I've said it before, it's a matter of taste. Atheists don't speak the language of 'god'. It's old and smells bad. We're open to open description, to creative demonstration. To hear of a 'god realized soul', we'd spit on the ground if it wasn't for our possessing the deepest understanding. Seriousness should always be measured with levity. It would be a bad joke to explain why.
Is that not basically what I just said? lol Yes and your general acceptance of differing tastes if overwhelmingly positive. :tongue: j/k
Accepting all things with love is an extraordinarily difficult thing to do. Nothing is inherently illusory. That the highest wisdom is found without god requires no proof.