the truth of cannibis is it's the truth

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by queenannie, Sep 6, 2004.

  1. queenannie

    queenannie Member

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    I just got a link to this article from a friend, and I can't explain what this guy says, Dr. Hawkins, because I'll get it wrong. Anyway he's got a way to index 'truth' according to collective consciousness, and it sounds reasonable enough--that's why you've got to read it yourself, it makes sense.

    Anyway, with a the scale being 1 to 1000, mankind is at a truth index of 421!!!
    Is that significant or what?

    421 truth index
     
  2. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    No, it's a coincidence. No need to gasp in astonishment.

    Gotta say the whole things sounds kinda sketchy. What is this collective consciousness, how was it discovered, how is it measured? What the hell is a Harmonic Concordance? A lot of it sounds like crappy New Age garbage. Haven't read his books so I can't say for sure, but I'm skeptical on this one.
     
  3. queenannie

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    The collective consciousness is how we all are connected, in the sense we are all from one Mind. This I truly believe, and not because I just want to, but because of various occurrences and understandings I've experienced in my life. I also have a very good intuition of what is accurate and what is not (of those things which can be proved, of course).

    I think if one chooses not to lie to one's self about anything, which is a hard thing to do, but possible, then truth is not so evasive a concept. I know that cannabis is a conscience enhancer for many people, kind of like Jiminy Cricket was for Pinocchio. A reality check within a hazy fog of peace. I sometimes wonder if the reason for not liking to smoke pot for some people is related to this, and that they don't want to go there, so they avoid it.

    The bottom line, for me, is that I do not believe there are any true coincidences, because there are no random points of contact on a sphere which rotates in a consistent helical fashion. It's orderly and visible from a wide perspective, and the balancing laws of cause and effect permeate all within that sphere, which eliminates coincidence and upholds synchronicity and karma.
     
  4. mixednuts

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    huh...? LOOK AT THESEE **************
     
  5. StonerBill

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    Sorry man, you cant expect people to take you seriosuly when your a superstitioner.


    I think there can be a scale placed on believingness. One end of the scale is that Everything in nature and in life is uncontrolled and due to the randomness of the universe. This is atheism. Supersition is on teh otehr end. Religion is not at the end, for they get rid of total meaning by Giving their ruling to a conscious higher-being. However, you lie on teh end, from waht i gather, to beleive that everyhting has a destinty and a meaning.

    Anyway im going off topic

    It means nothing, and ill have a look at the theory but it sounds pretty toshy
     
  6. queenannie

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    Religion is superstition.

    Just because you can't see the bottom doesn't mean that it's not there. But you'll never know unless you stop making assumptions from the surface and just dive in.

    Listen to some Jimi Hendrix or Pink Floyd.
     
  7. queenannie

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    What I really meant to say, when I got sidetracked by other thoughts, was this:

    It's not about what this man says or how he 'proves' it, because it's all subjective, anyway. I just figured that others of like mind, knowing the significance of the 421 number, would also know what I meant, because it's not about hearing, it's about feeling.

    I've been smoking pot since before you guys were born, and as Bob Marley once said "Who feels it, knows it."
     
  8. TrippinBTM

    TrippinBTM Ramblin' Man

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    I also tend towards the idea that all is connected. I wouldn't call the universe conscious though. At any rate, how would such a collective consciousness be quantified? That's like saying you can measure God, which is a stupid thing to say.

    Coincidence is nothing but two things happening at the same time, and our ascribing meaning to it. If I read the name "O'Malley" and a guy calls on the phone and identifies himself as "Wilson" that's a coincidence, but not a meaningful one. If he had identified himself as "O'Malley" we would consider it meaningful, although it isn't. I just finished reading a book where a whole chapter is devoted to coincidences and their statistical nature. "Unweaving the Rainbow" by Richard Dawkins.

    By the way, your last paragraph makes little sense.
     
  9. queenannie

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    I didn't say it was the universe, it is mind. All of our minds.
    By including everyone that has a mind.
    You're the one making these inferences, not I.


    Are you filling me in on something I didn't know? Because if so, you misunderstood what I meant by no coincidence.
    Now, how exactly would you know that, without actually being one of those involved? You have no way of knowing if it is significant or not, based on that information. So, say you are one of the two, unless you can say you know it is definitely meaningful, there is no other assumption you can make. You can not prove it is not meaningful, even if the meaning is never revealed to you. There is a lot of world going on beyond each of our own small spheres of reality.

    What I'm saying is you have the definition wrong. A coincidence is something that man labels as such when he cannot see and/or understand the significance of the concomitant event.


    Statistics are a pseudo-science invented to help us deceive ourselves of various 'facts' which we manipulate to keep our delusions intact.
    Considering your comments, I'm sure it doesn't. (just kidding :p )
     
  10. StonerBill

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    umm the special number is 420, so if there was a meaning behind it, id say humans would be 420. or 419 or something, making it like marijauna is the step of truth above humans.
     
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