Another bad trip on weed

You are very right that fearing weed or acid or anything else makes it much more likely that something bad will happen, and although I don't think I regularly approach weed that way, it is definitely something I will keep in mind, in general, in the future.

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I'll admit that I'm surprised you thought I was blowing it out of proportion, since you yourself have experienced bad panic. Perhaps because you were able to overcome it, it doesn't seem as bad anymore. But regardless, I think we pretty much agree on all of this.

Perhaps I spread some fear by making that post, which is not a good thing at all, so you have a point there. But, I stick to my opinion that people should know about this kind of thing. So many people on here treat weed like chewing gum or drinking a coke, and it really is a whole lot more than that.

 

Damnnnn, haha. The first time I actually got really high, was the craziest most amazing high I had ever experienced, but for the best part of it, I was pretty scared, and just wanted it to stop. I was scared because I thought I was having a stroke from the heat of the sun, my weed was laced, or both. Turned out, I was just ripped.

I've smoked many times since that, and I've only gotten close to being that high a few more times. I wish I could go back to that high again, but actually enjoy it instead of just wigging out. : C

(I actually didn't "Freak out." I was flipping out in my head, but I wasn't really letting on to my friend that I was scared as hell. I just mentioned something along the lines of "I don't think you know how I feel," or "I feel really....strange.")

 

Hahahaha. That sounds familiar. After she came down some and she was in a good enough mood to joke about it, we were just sitting there cuddling and she goes, "man... this is crazy... everything is BLUE!!!" and we just cracked up for about five minutes.

You might have done this before, but if you want to approach that kind of high again, I would take a month off from smoking, secure some really nasty crystally pot and take a gigantic bong rip. Whenever I take time off and then smoke good weed, I trip face the first few times I smoke.

 

Yeah I think we are on the same page too, and you are right people should be aware of all elements of the experience not just the positives. Just to add its not that I think the way you describe it is neccesarily blown out of proportion. I really understand how terrifying panic can be and empathize with your friend. The main reason I disagreed was because people who havent experienced it and some who do experience it don't understand what it is, which in itself can cause or perpetuate fear and panic.

Before I started reading about psychology I didnt know what was happening during times like that. But after I realized I had just become afraid of some symptoms of anxiety like increased heart rate that I associated with going into panic mode, I was able to see much of it as my own thinking patterns that caused the panic. And this isn't just about getting paranoid from being too high, it was basically just my general mindset. Now I really don't have problems at all with even beginning to freak out, it is much more controllable. And I give weed a pretty large amount of credit for helping me confront that and ultimately change the way I think.

This is a complex issue in my opinion, because I can see how weed can help lead to or aggravate panic, though I don't think it can actually cause it in a person not susceptible to that mindstate in the first place. But on top of that I do believe it can be an invaluable resource in overcoming those types of reactions in life as well.

 

Also I forgot to say that essentially all of the paranoia I've felt from weed smoking were based on the fact that its illegal and things were either sketchy or I imagined them to be.

Its not that I don't think smoking cannabis cant cause someone some pretty intense acute psychological stresses. But the govt is so irrational and fascist in their policies, I have to take a strong position because I really believe in this plant and what it could do for humanity and our world.

 

I have never really had a bad trip on weed, the only time ive ever had a bad trip is when i did shrooms, i did 6 caps and 4 stems it was fucking crazy

 

I've had two really bad panic attacks, to the point where my mind was racing and I couldn't even articulate in my head WHY I was freaked out, which only made it worse. Both times I was heading home alone, was way higher than I should have been at the time, and was convinced that I would get caught. But that initial concern just blossomed into a full-blown panic with no logical cause; I wasn't able to think logically at all anymore, but my mind just kept racing in circles and my heart kept pounding, and I became pretty much oblivious to my surroundings.

Those were really bad, and took me awhile to decompress from even after I came back down. And I think the moral there is you can really freak out if you're trying to fight the high, as I was. It's good that you were with your friend, since otherwise with no one to turn to and express what you're feeling, it can spiral way out of control.

 

Reqiuem for a Dream is a pretty sick instrumental..

 

yea i have freaked out before, but its not a big deal, if you can tell its not laced, then you know it wont kill you, so just chill out, nothings gonna happen, unless you put yourself in a stupid situation where something dumb will happen. You should have just done something to make your friend chill the fuck out, like watch TV or something, i was stoned out of my mind last night, and for a little i thought MAYBE i was a little bit too high, but then i turned on the TV, it made me relax, and i chilled and smoked more, and everything was fine.