The BIBLE. God's Word or a Story Book?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*, Jul 15, 2007.

  1. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    Thats my question to you, What do you think the BIBLE is, God's Word or a Story Book?

    Its been translated over and over, which would create it to be like the game we played at kids called "telephone".

    I beleive its more SYMBOLIC.

    I started to think of the BIBLE today when I was reading the a childrens book of the BIBLE, and I started to go over all the stories, and then I just thought, SERIOUSLY! I cannot see how people can read it and believe it, WHERES THE PROOF?
     
  2. jim kirby

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    the bible was put together by the catholic church many centuries ago. the reason being so that they could leave out everything that would make us free and add in everything that would make us dependent on them. oh and it keeps millions flowing into the vaticans coffers too.
     
  3. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    God's Word, is Om, or Aum.

    Wheres the proof?
    Look around, life is vibration, God is everywhere :)
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

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    I think you're right - it is symbolic. Only an idiot or a person with mental problems could believe it is literal truth.

    Many other systems of mythology exist, and they have to be taken on the same level.

    An example - in an ancient Chinese text I read some time ago, it made the claim that 'confucius was nine feet tall'. Well, whose going to believe that? No one with any sense. But still, we can be sure that Confucius existed, and exercised a wide (and continuing) influence on Chiese culture for centuries.

    Probably we can apply similar principles to the Bible.
    Thus, the 'tens of thousands' slain by King David were probably only a relatively small number.

    The only positive thing about it really is the idea that we should act with love towards each other - something chritians historically have failed in completely.
     
  5. BlackBillBlake

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    Maybe you could answer that?
     
  6. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    No, not exactly.
    My words do not really mean anything
    I just say things to help people realize
    that the Truth comes from within.
    Only you can prove it to yourself.

    Let me ask, how would you go about
    proving to me that we we call life, reality,
    the universe, is reality, and not a dreaM?
     
  7. BlackBillBlake

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    I wouldn't try. You can't really comprehend 'reality' fully by thinking about it.

    However, my own view is that the universe is real, and our life here is real.
    This is a conclusion I have reached through long experience, not philosophy or religion. I have absolutely no interest in seeking to prove my view is correct to others.

    When you say 'Om' is the word of god, that is a view derived from Indian religions. It has no more and no less validity than the christian who says the Bible is the word of god. Both the Hindu and the Christian can claim that they have verified their belief through mystical experiences etc.

    I'd say all words are a human construction. I don't think god speaks either sanskrit or hebrew.
     
  8. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Om is a representation of the vibration of life.
    I dont actually think God said Om lol. More
    like a dream.

    Also, you may have noticed that I stated
    the same thing about God, you cant comprehend
    God by thinking of it. Though its different, because
    its not a matter of fully, it is a matter
    of at All.
     
  9. BlackBillBlake

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    Thing is though, it breaks down into a game of definitions. For me God (ess) = The Universe.
     
  10. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Quite true, and it is the definitions we use that
    prove just how ignorant we really are lol.
    I also believe God = the Universe.
    But then I also believe that the Universe
    is only a relfection of the spiritual side
    the Light of God.
    But I would never claim to be able to understand
    the spiritual side.
    I have felt the soul in meditation but
    again thats why we are saying it can
    not be grasped by thought :)
     
  11. rebelfight420

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    story book its filled with contradictions and mistakes it cannot be the literal word of god.
     
  12. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    certain men who wrote in the bible must have lied? cus they stories dont line up right ,,,, as with the contridictions,. and the storybook fairy tales of whats good and whats bad, and eventually someones gonna fucking worship it
     
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    Whats wrong with that, people who truly follow the bible are very moral and all around good people. A true Christan is accepting of everyone, can you really ask for anything more form a person?

    Now the crusaders, and other dogma centered "christans" could not be farther from what the bible and Jesus were really out to teach.
     
  14. BlackBillBlake

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    But if the book isn't the truth they believe it to be, they're deluded, be they as oral as you like.
     
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    it is a story about a bunch of poor bastards who were choosen by the/a diety to be a channel for it. and all the crap the rest of humanity put them through because of not wanting to hear about it and prefering to go on beating each other over the head instead.

    it isn't exactly the word of anything, but it is the undertanding of the scribes who wrote it down of what was said by these cannalers of 'the devine' who honestly and sincerely did beleive themselves and what they were saying to be what they claimed it was.

    and i pretty much believe in the good heartedness of their intentions.
    though not by any streatch of it what they have been turned into.

    as for the book itself: human ink on human paper, is human ink on human paper;
    and i defy anyone to show me the signature of any divinity on it.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  16. BlackBillBlake

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    The crusaders could have used parts of the OT to justify their violence - there's plenty of it in there. But actually, they didn;t go as far as the Bible tells us the ancient jews did - the crusaders stopped short of genital mutilation of fallen enemies, unlike their OT counterparts.
     
  17. tommyhot

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    It's a story book. Pure fiction. Made by those wanting to control people's thoughts and actions. Sadly, it works on a lot of ignorant people.
     
  18. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    The word of God is not something that can ever be written in a book.

    It is something that can only be written in the heart, and only a living person can speak it as the living word of God.

    Books are just chronicles of people that could. And the religions based upon such books are just braille for the spiritually blind.


    x
     
  19. Fallout55

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    Does it really matter, aslong as they have good morals? Would any true god denie them?
     
  20. venom_zx

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    isn't it being unsincere/thoughtless
     
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