I personally see debating religion as mundane and a futile attempt at confirming the hope that this life is not all there is. What if you simply cease to exist? I mean think about yourself and compare to all the greatest people whove ever lived and why should there be some magical spiritual journey after death for you? This is coming from someone who was very close to becoming a minister. I am not an athiest but really why not nothing?? I refuse whether true or not to live in fear of "God" or the "devil" and will continue my life acting as it does not matter. I cannot resist when the subject arises to discuss it however. I've been to just about any faiths church you can imagine and they all are quick to admit that thier faith is the correct one. I say if you want to believe in a god do so without a church influencing your opinion and without imposing your theories of god on others. Every society governed by religion has ended in total destruction.
I don't think anyone should think like anyone else just to be like someone else. But i think a person should explore the world until they find something that works for them. And then if a person thinks they are unto something they should go with it. And then tell people what they believe to help others decide what's right for them. You just have to find something that is right for you. Anything. Something out there already. Something new. Bits and Pieces. Whatever.
Tattooed, I agree completley. Cogliostro, whatever floats your boat. Discussion of spirituality is mundane & futile in your opinion? Good for you ~ What should we talk about instead, perhaps the latest television shows?
my invisible friends have nothing to do with my fear, such as it is, of cesation. they also have nothing to do, with the simple reality of all of us togather, creating conditions each of us alone, experience. the're just nice to have curl up on top of the covers at night, some of the smaller ones, and whatever is greater then ourselves, well its just nice to not have to take some belief's word for its not wishing us any particular harm. of course all that may be a long way from what most people would consider religoen, whether they would consider religeon itself to be sane or not. =^^= .../\...
If you believe that debating religion is futile, why come to the religion forum and start a debate. Seems slightly hypocritical in my opinion. However, I cannot disagree --- I think a lot of people adopt a religion out of fear. Like you I am fully aware of Christian teachings as I went to Baptist school my entire life. And like you I don't believe that I am an atheist, I just personally have trouble understanding the point of many organized religions in the forms I have seen them. I have studied others besides Christianity, and I don't like the philosophies of any of them. I just made up my own religion and it suites me just fine. I can't make those types of decisions for anyone else though. I don't do things out of fear of god, saten or dying. Personally, I feel like we have limited time on earth with these lives and that time shouldn't be wasted in a church listening to some man/woman tell you what to believe. I think that is something personal that each individual needs to figure out for themself on their own. I actually said the same thing to my boyfriend today when we were on our way to the park to hike. I said I felt sorry for all of those people in church when we went past a full lot at the church. I feel sorry for them because they feel the need to do that. I feel the need to be outside on such a beautiful day and go hike. And during football season I feel the need to drink beer and watch football on Sunday, not go to church. I don't know, maybe it's me. I just don't feel like I need a church or even a "religion" per se. But everyone has their own way of thinking and doing things. Some people need that, other's don't. It's their time to waste if they want to waste it. My boyfriend argues that people go to church to be part of a community. I think that idea is ridiculous. But then again maybe I just don't like people that much.
^ That's what i'm saying organized religion is gonzo! Religous beliefs aside though, what do you think happens if there is no "god" or "satan" when you die? That was the basic premise of this post. I did say I find it pointless to debate religion, but I also said I can't help but discuss it when it comes up, mainly because it is inherently a big part of everyones lives whether by choice or not. I do disagree with religion but without it even if there is'nt a god the world would be more chaotic. All that being said what do you think happens IF there is'nt some omnipotent being controlling every aspect of our lives when you do finally die? Does your energy keep coursing through the universe or is it complete nothingness, or what???
Well, I can only speak for myself and what I believe. You mention energy, which is interesting to me because I've recently become interested in our energy. I don't believe that we have a "soul" that goes to heaven or hell. And our bodies rot, or what have you. I want to be creamated. Anyway, I think we die and that is it. There is nothing more for us, because we are dead. So live your life the way you want it now. But more importantly understand that every single person you come into contact with you have an impact on. Some more than others yes, but just think about it on that level. You might be gone, but your legacy isn't. Whatever you have started or brought to this world still goes on without you. Just my thoughts.
I don't fully understand it so I can't say if I believe in it or not. I believe in a lot of things that are difficult for me to explain at the moment. However, I went up to the exostentialism section and read a little bit about it, and it pretty much sounds like something I'd believe to an extent. I'd have to research it further to know for sure.
what does literacy have to do with the origeonal propisition? or my simple and honest spirituality, which owes nothing to the presumptions of any organized belief? what i do fear, has been pretty much fulfilled by mortal humans, without assistance from anything but their own thoughtless shortsightedness. =^^= .../\...
