Anyone Doubt There's an Illuminati New World Order Conspiracy?

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  1. ericdubay

    ericdubay Member

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    Does Anyone Doubt There's a New World Order / Illuminati Conspiracy?



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    George W. Bush told us after September 11th that we “mustn’t tolerate outrageous conspiracy theories.” Anxious to be intolerant of something new, I thought I’d look into these outrageous claims. FOX News even suggested taking some time to peruse the internet’s fine “cess-pool of conspiracy theories,” so that’s what I did. However, what I found was a vast library of factual information following the movements of a very real conspiracy. The conspiracy is for world governance under the United Nations. The conspirators are a cabal of international bankers, businessmen, politicians, media personalities, Illuminati families, and secret society elites.



    While this may surprise many and be simply unbelievable to others, that is because there has been a concerted effort, an info-war if you will, to keep the general population in willful ignorance regarding “outrageous conspiracy theories.” Branding this area of research as “theory” propagates it to the masses as unreliable and unimportant. However, just a tiny amount of investigation into subjects such as the JFK assassination, the Oklahoma City bombing, 9/11 or 7/7 show a massive amount of evidence against the “official” stories. I urge every one of you to perform your own research into the Illuminati and New World Order. Read the decades of thorough investigation into these subjects and learn why these “conspiracy nuts” are so adamant about their “outrageous theories.” You might just find out what all the buzz is about.



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    "It was not my intention to doubt that the doctrines of the Illuminati had

    not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more fully

    satisfied of this fact than I am."

    -George Washington, 1782



    "The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by

    those who are not behind the scenes."

    -Benjamin Disraeli, 1844



    "Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me

    privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the Field of

    commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a

    power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so

    complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when

    they speak in condemnation of it."

    -Woodrow Wilson, 1913



    "I am a most unhappy man. I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great

    industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of

    credit is concentrated. The growth of the nation, therefore, and all our

    activities are in the hands of a few men. We have come to be one of the

    worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments

    in the civilized world. No longer a government by free opinion, no longer a

    government by conviction and the vote of the majority, but a government by

    the opinion and duress of a small group of dominant men."

    -Woodrow Wilson, 1916



    "From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, to those of

    Trotsky, Bela Kun, Rosa Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world wide

    conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of

    society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence and

    impossible equality, has been steadily growing. It played a definitely

    recognizable role in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the

    mainspring of every subversive movement during the nineteenth century, and

    now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of

    the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by

    the hair of their heads, and have become practically the undisputed masters

    of that enormous empire."

    -Winston Churchill, 1920



    "The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a

    giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation. At

    the head is a small group of banking houses. This little coterie run our

    government for their own selfish ends. It operates under cover of a

    self-created screen, seizes our executive officers, legislative bodies,

    schools, courts, newspapers and every agency created for the public

    protection.”

    -N.Y. Mayor, John Hylan, 1922



    "The real truth of the matter is that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson"
    -Franklin D. Roosevelt, 1933




    "Today the path to total dictatorship in the United States can be laid by

    strictly legal means, unseen and unheard by the Congress, the President, or

    the people… outwardly we have a Constitutional government. We have operating

    within our government and political system, another body representing

    another form of government, a bureaucratic elite which believes our

    Constitution is outmoded and is sure that it is the winning side. All the

    strange developments in the foreign policy agreements may be traced to this

    group who are going to make us over to suit their pleasure. This political

    action group has its own local political support organizations, its own

    pressure groups, its own vested interests, its foothold within our

    government, and its own propaganda apparatus."

    -Senator William Jenner, 1954



    "The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It

    financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are

    directed to making the United States a member of a World Government."

    -American Mercury Magazine, 1957



    "The most powerful clique in these (CFR) groups have one objective in

    common: they want to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and the

    national independence of the U.S. They want to end national boundaries and

    racial and ethnic loyalties supposedly to increase business and ensure world

    peace. What they strive for would inevitably lead to dictatorship and loss

    of freedoms by the people. The CFR was founded for "the purpose of promoting

    disarmament and submergence of U.S. sovereignty and national independence

    into an all-powerful one-world government."

    -Harpers, July l958



    "The very word "secrecy" is repugnant in a free and open society, and we are as a people, inherently and historically, oppossed to secret societies, secret oaths, and secret proceedings. For we are oppossed around the world by a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means for expanding its sphere of influence. It depends on infiltration instead of invasion, on subversion instead of elections, on intimidation instead of free choice. It is a system which has conscripted vast human and material resources into the building of a tightly knit, highly effecient machine that combines military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations. Its preparations are concealed, not published, its mistakes are buried, not headlined, its dissenters are silenced, not praised, no expendature is questioned, no secret is revealed... I am asking your help in the tremendous task of informing and alerting the American people.
    -JFK, 1961




    "The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational

    consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of

    the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission

    represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate

    the four centers of power political, monetary, intellectual and

    ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a

    worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the

    nationstates involved. As managers and creators of the system ,they will

    rule the future."

    -U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater, l964



    "The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing

    less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands

    able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the

    world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by

    the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements,

    arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the

    system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a

    private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were

    themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made

    possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power

    for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other

    economic groups."

    -Professor Carroll Quigley, 1966



    "The drive of the Rockefellers and their allies is to create a one-world

    government combining supercapitalism and Communism under the same tent, all

    under their control.... Do I mean conspiracy? Yes I do. I am convinced there

    is such a plot, international in scope, generations old in planning, and

    incredibly evil in intent."

    -Congressman Larry P. McDonald, 1976, killed in the Korean Airlines 747 that

    was shot down by the Soviets



    "We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine

    and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and

    respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have

    been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been

    subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the work

    is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world

    government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world

    bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in

    past centuries."

    -David Rockefeller, 1991 Trilateral Commission meeting



    "George Bush has been surrounding himself with people who believe in

    one-world government. They believe that the Soviet system and the American

    system are converging. The vehicle to bring this about, is the United

    Nations, the majority of whose 166 member states are socialist, atheist, and

    anti-American."

    -U.S. Ambassador David Funderburk, 1991



    "It is the sacred principles enshrined in the United Nations charter to

    which the American people will henceforth pledge their allegiance."

    -George Bush, 1992



    "[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are

    the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order,

    and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."

    -Henry Kissinger, 1994



    "Some even believe we (Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal

    working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my

    family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around

    the world to build a more integrated global political and economic

    structure---one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty,

    and I am proud of it."

    -David Rockefeller, 2002 Autobiography
     
  2. ericdubay

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    Educate yourself and awaken the sheeple around you. World Governments have
    been hijacked by a cabal of globalists bent on one world government, world
    bank, world currency, world military, and a micro-chipped population under
    the United Nations. These people have many fronts which you all MUST
    RESEARCH including: the Bilderberg group, the Committee of 300, the
    Trilateral Commission, the Bohemian Grove, the Council on Foreign Relations,
    Skull and Bones Society, the Free Masons, the Council of 13, the Committee of 33, the Knights of Malta, the Illuminati, and the New World
    Order.

    Visit my website for documentaries, slideshows, pictures, more quotes,
    links, and info about the New World Order: www.myspace.com/sheeplerevolt
     
  3. Nal3ncer

    Nal3ncer Banned

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    All very true.
     
  4. guitarpeace

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    I don't believe in elaborate secret societies of great control. People with paranoia are good of thinking of things that are very complex and could very well be true unlike thinking that an object is out to get them. I do not like the government or any system ruling people but thats what happened when we went through the agricultural revolution. Mass amounts of food makes mass amounts of people and that makes class system and currency. For all I know it can be anarchists against the government making up conspiracies to make mentally weak people go on killing sprees. Of coarse there are hidden agendas but its all for money, capitalism is all about money and money talks. Everyone in power is greedy. It is all greed. And the government is afraid of me because I have the power motherfuckers. They can keep loading bullets in me and I would still continue to kick their ass. You know why? Because I am A Man.
     
  5. ericdubay

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    I don't quite follow the above post, but I'd recommend checking out the blog on www.myspace.com/sheeplerevolt called "The Secret Society Network" to learn more about that (members lists, quotes, connections to government). Here's some information on one of the more important ones - the Bilderberg Group:

    The Bilderberg Group


    The Bilderberg Group annualy conduct a super-secret conference, a meeting of about 130 of the most powerful world leaders in business, media and politics.

    The club was created by Denis Healey, Joseph Retinger, David Rockefeller and former Nazi SS officer Prince Bernhard of the Netherlands. The invitation-only conference was started in 1954 and named for the Dutch hotel where the conference was first held. Those who attend promise not to reveal what was discussed, security is tight, and the press and public are barred. For the small minority of those aware of Bilderberg, the conference has been the subject of outrage and protest for many international world citizens and even religious groups who vehemently object to Bilderberg's disturbing New World Order agenda and influence.

    Previous attendees and speakers at the conference have included Democrat and GOP stalwarts alike, such as outgoing World Bank chief Paul Wolfowitz, former U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, George H. W. Bush, and Bill and Hilary Clinton, only to name a few.

    Last year, it was discovered the conference was held in Ottawa, and the Toronto Star reported that it had been able to obtain an unsigned press release saying that the 2006 group included David Rockefeller, Henry Kissinger, Queen Beatrix of Holland, New York Gov. George Pataki, media moguls, high-level officials from Spain and Greece, and the heads of Coca-Cola, Credit Suisse and the Royal Bank of Canada.

    There is almost a complete Bilderberg blackout in the corporate owned and controlled U.S. media, as most of the powerful CEOs and media moguls are either sympathizers or members of Bilderberg themselves. Only 5 corporations own and control over 90% of the U.S. media, and they do an excellent job of keeping American citizens in the dark concerning the Bilderberg group and their globalist New World Order agenda. That explains why most Americans remain totally unaware that the club even exists.

    Video 1:
    CNN whitewashes, yet still admits, that "Bilderberg is into the idea of a one-world government... a 'new world order.'"


    *Watch the video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hs2fzilICy8 / [2]


    Video 2:
    TX Governor Rick Perry, who has been treasonously instrumental in facilitating the Trans-Texas Corridor and related toll roads, which is an essential part of infrastructure for the illegal abolishment of U.S. sovereignty and the illegal creation of the North American Union, was invited to attend the covert Bilderberg meeting this year.

    *Watch the video:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=14c_1181174511

    http://prisonplanet.com/articles/jun...conspiracy.htm


    Video 3:
    The History Channel documented and reported on the secretive nature of the elite Bilderberg Club. The following is a short video excerpt.

    *Watch the video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXqj9epGEas


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    Turkish TV covered the recent attendance of Paul Wolfowitz at the 2007 Bilderberg meeting conducted in Turkey. The following video is footage of Mr. Wolfowitz touring Instanbul while in the area to attend the conference.

    *Watch the video:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=592_1180980829


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    Turkish citizens gathered to protest the Bilderberg club holding their meeting in Istanbul this year.

    *Watch the video:
    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b4d_1181202125

    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=398_1181236072


    Video 6:
    Dutch TV covered the 2007 Bilderberg meeting:

    Many powerful world leaders are members of the secretive club which meets annually at a tightlipped location.

    The Dutch broadcasters admit to Bilderberg's agenda of creating a one-world government headed by the major industrialists, world bankers and globalists who run the U.N. The plan is referred to as the "New World Order." Its aim is to gradually phase out all cash currency to restrict freedom, abolish the sovereignty of all nations, globally unite each continental union beneath a fascist one-word government headed by the U.N., then enact massive depopulation measures worldwide.

    [English subtitles are included].

    *Watch the video:
    http://prisonplanet.com/articles/jun...20607Dutch.htm / [2]
    Bilderberg and One-World Government articles:

    http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Front_Page/GE10Aa02.html

    http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNew...609?hub=Canada
     
  6. guitarpeace

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    We do need depopulation. What is the point of knowing about these groups? Why are people constantly trying to educate others on this? Should I be afraid? I really don't give a shit what rich people are doing or planning to do. They are still people that make mistakes and will someday die.
     
  7. Nal3ncer

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    Your assumptions are based on nothing at all. You should do some research on the subject. I know you haven't, because if you had, there is way too much evidence of this to ignore.

    And I'm sick of people using mental illness to write off the New World Order. It's not paranoia if it's true, and the thing about "using it to simplify a complicated world" is utter shit. The world seemed a lot simpler before I knew about this.
     
  8. CrazybutLazy

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    Would you support depopulation if it started with everybody you loved? No, but of course you would if started with the loved ones of others because you're a selfish prick.
     
  9. guitarpeace

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    I have done research but all sources are the same and they lack information to a point. And I don't take anything Alex Jones says. I am skeptical because I have done research. The information about illuminati and NWO is the same as the information claiming the holocaust is a hoax and information about chemtrails, area 51 and other conspiracies. Of course it can be believable. Our earth is overpopulated, I don't wish death upon anyone but I wish that it never happened in the first place. People in higher power always want more power and mainly money. They try to exploit us but we can easily exploit back. Why should I personally fear these groups?
     
  10. Nal3ncer

    Nal3ncer Banned

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    No one should fear them, but everyone needs to stand up to them. As for the holcaust, I believe the number of Jews killed may have been exaggerated, but certainly a fair amount were killed. Chemtrails exist, Area 51 exists (though I don't know how much really fucked up shit goes on there).

    As for Alex Jones, he's right on most counts, even though he's a psycho.
     
  11. guitarpeace

    guitarpeace Member

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    Everyone should stand up for what they believe in.
     
  12. Nal3ncer

    Nal3ncer Banned

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    So you don't believe in freedom?
     
  13. guitarpeace

    guitarpeace Member

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    I believe in freedom and I still have it.
     
  14. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What is taken for granted NEVER lasts forever.
     
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    guitarpeace Member

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    I don't take it for granted...
     
  16. Nal3ncer

    Nal3ncer Banned

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    Sounds to me like you do.
     
  17. ericdubay

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    As Nal3 said, if you've looked into these things - yes, there is more information showing that about 500,000 died in the concentration camps than there is that 6,000,000 did. That's all suppsed "holocaust denial" is. There is also undeniable proof and admissions that Chemtrails exist (recent studies have found a connection to 60,000 Morgellons disease patients as well). As for Area 51, it exists, but I don't claim to know what goes on there.

    But the problem is Guitarpiece, you're scoffing at these issues before doing significant research into their authenticity. Willfully suspend your disbelief and look into these issues that you consider self-evidently false. Have you looked into Bilderberg Group yet? Here's some info to start you off on Bohemian Grove:

    Bohemian Grove



    What is the Bohemian Grove? The Bohemian Grove is a 2700 acre redwood forest, located in Monte Rio, CA. It contains accommodation for 2000 people to "camp" in luxury. It is owned by the Bohemian Club.

    What is the Bohemian Club? The Bohemian Club is a private. all male club, which is headquartered in the Bohemian building in San Francisco. It was formed in 1872 by men who sought shelter from the frontier culture (or lack of culture).

    Who are the present members? The Club has evolved into an association of rich and powerful men, mostly of this country (there are similar organizations in other countries). Some artists are allowed to join (often at reduced rates), because of their social status and entertainment value. The membership list has included every Republican U.S. president (as well as some Democrats) since 1923, many cabinet officials, and director; & CEO's of large corporations, including major financial institutions.

    What industries are represented among the members? Major military contractors, oil companies, banks (including the Federal Reserve), utilities (including nuclear power), and national media (broadcast and print) have high-ranking officials as club members or guests. Many members are, or have been, on the board of directors of several of these corporations. You should note that most of the above industries depend heavily on a relationship with government for their profitability.

    The members stay in different camps at the Grove, which have varying status levels. Members & frequent guests of the most prestigious camp (Mandalay) include: Henry Kissinger, George Shultz, S. D. Bechtel, Jr., Thomas Watson Jr. (IBM), Phillip Hawley (B of A), William Casey (CIA). and Ralph Bailey (Dupont). George Bush resides in a less prestigious camp (Hillbillies) with A. W. Clausen (World Bank), Walter Cronkite, and William F. Buckley.

    What activities take place at the grove? The grove is the site of a two week retreat every July (as well as other smaller get-togethers throughout the year). At these retreats, the members commune with nature in a truly original way. They drink heavily from morning through the night, bask in their freedom to urinate on the redwoods, and perform pagan rituals (including the "Cremation of Care", in which the members wearing red-hooded robes, cremate a coffin effigy of "Dull Care" at the base of a 40 foot owl altar). Some (20%) engage in homosexual activity (but few of them support gay rights or AIDS research). They watch (and participate in) plays and comedy shows in which women are portrayed by male actors. Although women are not allowed in the Grove, members often leave at night to enjoy the company of the many prostitutes who come from around the world for this event. Is any of this hard to believe? Employees of the Grove have said that no verbal description can accurately portray the bizarre behavior of the Grove's inhabitants.

    Besides this type of merriment. the annual gathering serves as an informational clearing house for the elite. The most powerful men in the country do their "networking" here, despite the Grove's motto "weaving spiders come not here" (don't do business in the Grove). At these gatherings men representing the government, military-industrial, and financial sectors meet and make major policy decisions. The Manhattan project, which produced the first atomic bombs, was conceived at the Grove in 1942. Other decisions made at the Grove include who our presidential candidates will be. There are speeches, known as "Lakeside Talks", wherein high-ranking officials disseminate information which is not available to the public-at-large.

    What's not right about this? When powerful people work together, they become even more powerful. The Grove membership is wealthy, and becoming more so, while the middle class is steadily becoming poorer. This close-knit group determines whether prices rise or fall (by their control of the banking system, money supply, and markets), and they make money whichever way markets fluctuate. They determine what our rights are and which laws have effect, by appointing judges. They decide who our highest officials shall be by consensus among themselves, and then selling candidates to us via the media which they own. Important issues and facts are omitted from discussion in the press, or slanted to suit their goals, but they are discussed frankly at the Grove. Is there true democracy when so much power is concentrated in so few hands? Is there any real difference between the public and private sectors when cabinet members come from the boardrooms of large corporations? Is the spending of billions on weapons, which are by consensus no longer needed, really the will of the people? Or is it the will of General Electric, General Dynamics, and the other weapons contractors represented at the Grove?

    Helmut Schmidt, in his own autobiography, "Men and Powers, a Political Retrospective, says that he is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission and the Bilberberg group. He also says that he has been an active participant in bringing in world government. Mr. Schmidt also said in his book that leaders from globalist bodies travel to the Grove every summer. He talks about secret groves in Germany where they do druidic rituals, but indicates that Bohemian Grove is his favorite place to participate in these rituals.



    "Policy speeches are regularly made by members and guests, and the club privately boasts that the Manhattan Project was conceived on its grounds."



    Watch the ritual on video here:

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/grove56k.ram

    David Gergen, the Karl Rove of the Clinton Administration, gets visibly irritated when Alex Jones inquires about Gergen's membership with the Satanic organization of Bohemian Grove. Gergen also comes across very agitated when he finds out Alex Jones snuck in and caught their nefarious, secret rituals on tape.



    *Watch the interview here:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85LdINmZyT0 / [2]

    *Watch the following clip of a renown British orator discussing some of the diabolical rituals the Elite engage in at Bohemian Grove:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1U-Z-8mvJY / [2]





    *Watch the following Skull & Bones/Bohemian Grove documentary, called "American Dictators," produced by Alex Jones: http://www.prisonplanet.tv/articles/august2004/082804dictatorspreview.htm

    Ralph Nader Discusses The Bohemian Grove Club


    Ralph Nader was interviewed on KSRO, by Pat Thurston, where he talked about the annual retreat of the infamously secretive, all-male Bohemian Grove Club located 75 miles north of San Francisco in a privately owned 2700-acre redwood forest. In the interview, Ralph exposes some of the corruption and illegal activities these rich and powerful men are up to the woods each summer, and why we should care.



    Listen to Part -1 of the very informative interview here:

    http://choppedliverproductions.com/audio/Nader_KSRO1.mp3



    Part-2:

    http://choppedliverproductions.com/audio/Nader_KSRO2.mp3



    Part-3:

    http://choppedliverproductions.com/audio/Nader_KSRO3.mp3



    Part-4:

    http://choppedliverproductions.com/audio/Nader_KSRO4.mp3
     
  18. Nal3ncer

    Nal3ncer Banned

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    The Bohemian Grove is really just the tip of the iceberg. This is where the lowest-level elites go. Presidents, future-Presidents, actors... things like that. You mentioned popular entertainers joining, which is true. People like this are often allowed entry into these organizations so that they may be manipulated into serving the agenda through their work. Ordo Templu Orientis (OTO), a Masonic organization, was created for this very purpose, and some of the most popular entertainers in history were and are members. People like Frank Sinatra, Kris Kristofferson, The Beatles, and probably a slew of others I haven't heard about.
     
  19. ericdubay

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    You're right, Bohemian Grove and Bilderberg are just the tip of the iceberg. Another significant glacier however is Skull and Bones society:

    Skull and Bones

    As opposite as George Bush and John Kerry may seem to be, they do share a common secret - one they've shared for decades, and one they would not share with the electorate.

    The secret: details of their membership in Skull and Bones, the elite Yale University society whose members include some of the most powerful men of the 20th century.

    Only 15 seniors are picked each year by the former graduating class. They are required as a part of their initiation ceremony to lie naked in a coffin and recite their sexual history. This method allows other members to control the individual by threatening to reveal their innermost secrets if they do not "go-along".

    George Bush's father as well as George Bush were and are members of Skull & Bones. A key figure in Skull & Bones was William Averall Harriman. Pamela Harriman supplied the funds to elect Bill Clinton to office. Harriman was THE major backer of the Democratic Party for over 50 years. Major players in Skull & Bones have been linked to the financing of both world wars and the creation of many think-tanks and Universities in this country. Bush's father was a major contributor to the "Hitler Project" as well as the build-up of the Soviet Union.

    “I think Skull and Bones has had slightly more success than the mafia in the sense that the leaders of the five families are all doing 100 years in jail, and the leaders of the Skull and Bones families are doing four and eight years in the White House,” says Rosenbaum.

    "Henry L. Stimson" (S&B 1888) was President Taft's secretary of war (1911-13), and President Herbert Hoover's secretary of state (1929-33). As secretary of war (1940-45), Stimson pressed President Truman to drop the atomic bomb on the Japanese.
    Yale, Professor of History, Gaddis Smith, said, "Yale has influenced the Central Intelligence Agency more than any other university, giving the CIA the atmosphere of a class reunion." And "Bonesman" have been foremost among the "spooks", virtually building the CIA into a "haunted house."

    F. Trubee Davison (Skull and Bones '18), was Director of Personnel at the CIA in the early years. Some of the other Bonesmen connected with the "intelligence community" are: William Sloane Coffin, Jr. ('49); V. Van Dine ('49); James Buckley ('44); Bill Buckley ('50); Hugh Cunnigham ('34); Hugh Wilson; Reuben Holden; Charles R. Walker; "Yale's unofficial Secretary of War," Robert D. French ('10); Archibald MacLiesh ('15); Dino Pionzio ('50), CIA Deptuy Chief of Station during Allende overthrow; William and McGeorge Bundy; Richard A. Moore ('3?); Senator David Boren ('63); Senator John Kerry; and of course George Bush. Bush "tapped" Coffin, who, tapped Buckley.

    The Nation Magazine and New Republic on the "Left" were financed by Willard Straight, using Payne Whitney (Skull and Bones) Funds. The National Review on the "Right" was published by William F. Buckley a member.

    A few other prominent Bonesmen are:
    Henry Luce ('20), Time-Life; John Thomas Daniels, founder Archer Daniels Midland; Gifford Pinchot ('89); President Theodore Roosevelt's chief forester, Frederick E. Weyerhaeuser ('96); Harold Stanley ('08), founder Morgan Stanley, investment banker; Alfred Cowles ('13), Cowles Communication, Henry P. Davison ('20), senior partner Morgan Guaranty Trust; Thomas Cochran ('04) Morgan partner; Senator John Heinz; Pierre Jay ('92), first chairman of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York; George Herbert Walker, Jr. ('27), financier and co-founder of the NY Mets; Artemus Gates ('18), President of New York Trust Company, Union Pacific, TIME, Boeing Company; William Draper III, the Defense Department, UN and Import-Export Bank; Dean Witter, Jr., investment banker; Senator Jonathan Bingham; Potter Stewart ('36), Supreme Court Justice; Senator John Chaffe; Harry Payne Whitney ('94), married Gertrude Vanderbilt, investment banker; Russell W. Davenport ('23), editor Fortune Magazine, created Fortune 500 list; Evan G. Galbraith, Ambassador to France and Managing Director of Morgan Stanley; Judge John Steadman, the Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia; Richard Gow ('55), president Zapata Oil (George Bush's company); Amory Howe Bradford ('34), married Carol Warburg Rothschild and was general manager for the New York Times ; C. E. Lord ('49), Comptroller of the Currency; Winston Lord ('59), Chairman of CFR, Ambassador to China and a Clinton assistant Secretary of State; John Lilley, ambassador to China.


    Members of Skull and Bones & Nazis in Union Banking Corp. : Directors in 1932

    (A) E. Roland Harriman (1917) Vice President of W.A. Harriman and Co., N.Y.
    (B) Knight Wooley (1917) Director of Guaranty Trust, N.Y. and Dir. of
    the Federal Reserve Bank of N.Y.
    (C) Ellery Sedgewick James (1917) Partner Brown Brothers and Co. N.Y.
    (D) Prescott Sheldon Bush (1917) Partner Brown Bros, Harriman, Father of
    Ex-President George Bush
    (E) H.J. Kouwenhoven (Nazi) Nazi banker, managing partner of August
    Thyssen Bank and Bank Voor Handel
    Scheepvaart N.V. (The transfer bank for
    Thyssen's funds)
    (F) Johann Groninger (Nazi) Director of Bank Voor Handel en Scheepvaart
    and Vereinigte Stahlwerke (Thyssen's Steel
    operations)
    The other two members were :
    (G) J.L. Guinter Director of Union Banking Corp.
    (H) Cornelius Lievense President, Union Banking Corp. and Director
    of Holland American Investment Corp.

    Established in 1924 as a unit of W.A. Harriman and Co. (A joint Walker, Thyssen, Harriman operation). The founding partners were George Herbert Walker, Co-founder & sponsor (Grandfather of George Herbert Walker Bush, Ex-President, on the Father's side. William Averill Harriman and Fritz Thyssen of the German Steel Trust. The office of Union Banking Corp. was the N.Y. office of the German Steel Trust.
     
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    The most standout way of seeing that there are powerful and ill willed forces controlling this world is to simply look at world events. If the real facts were revealed, people would realize 9/11 was an inside job, and there was no way Osama Bin Laden or any group of rogue foreigners could have pulled it off on their own. Ignoring a myriad of other evidence, the only evidence you have to know is how building seven and the twin towers went down. Let's see, all three towers had all 10 charecteristics of a controlled demolithion which include, falling at free fall speed, symetrical collapse, pulverized concerete, and others. Now, just for the building to fall at free fall speed requires an almost instantaneous dissolving of the buildings entire central support structure in less than secconds. There is simply no way that fire can move that much metal out of the way that quickly, and not even a planet impact could either. But wait, the plane impact is infact irrelevant since research turns up that building seven, was not even hit by a plane.

    No other highrise building ever fell from fire.

    I know from experiance people who don't want to be woken, most likely won't be, you have to have an epiphany momment where you say "hmmm, that's not right, and begin digging for yourself to see if were actually right or just feeding you bs." At that point you would have an objective mind to investigate with. Fingerprints of this agenda are everywhere you look.
     

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