beg of winter planting

Discussion in 'Cannabis Outdoors' started by budblower10, Jul 31, 2007.

  1. budblower10

    budblower10 Member

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    hey guys. i was wandering if its possible to plant plants at the end of summer. i know frosts will kill them, but if it doesnt really start to get super cold til november/decemeber, will the plants survive? how much coldnesss can they take? will they automatically die as soon as it hits 32 degrees? i know you couldnt plant regular strains because of the sunlight times, but would some LR# 2's be able to survive for 2 months if planted around the end of august, grow for 2 months, which is around beg. of november. would it work or would the frosts defintely kill them before picking? i live in the NE USA sort of around virginia/maryland and all, like i said it doesnt start to get cold every day til around november - decmember. granted, frosts will occur before then, but i beleive it would be here and there with constant temps around 50 or so...? i know they wouldnt grow as fast as if temps were higher, but would they work? thanks alot, sorry for long post
     
  2. PeaceLoveAndWeed

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    it might work with lr plants. But if it does happen to get a frost you might be SOL. do some research and see when the las frost for your area is.
     
  3. thetrippyhippy

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    you can still plant lowryders but thats about it
     
  4. nesta

    nesta Banned

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    if i'm not horribly horribly mistaken, you can plant seeds outdoors pretty late in the year, and still get smokable buds. the budding is triggered by the photoperiod, not how old the plant is (this is only untrue of autoflowering plants with ruderalis genetics, like lowryder strains)

    the problem isnt that the plant will die, its that you'll have a really small plant instead of a huge fucking bush. but it should still bud, at least in theory.

    i've been reading up at a lot of growing forums lately because i'm anxious to get into the hobby and be self sufficient so i dont have to worry about buying all the time. i've stumbled across a technique a small quantity of growers seem to embrace whereing little to no vegetative stage is used. the plants are given 12 hour days from seed, and the plants grow shorter and not nearly as bushy, but still produce good bud and in a shorter timeframe. this would be similar to planting really late in the year - the plant wont have a few months of growing without budding, and wont have as long to produce flowers once it does bud.

    that said, i'm inexperienced and can only theorize that this would work outdoors as well as indoors. flowering periods vary, and just because you COULD get buds doesnt mean that its going to be long enough time for the buds to fill out and produce as much as possible, or that they'll have enough time to reach their peak quality. i would say its likely that its too late, or else getting too late, but thats just a guess.

    if its bagseed you're using, give it a try if you've got a good place. if you have paid for good genetics, then don't waste your seeds unless some experienced grower on here backs up my theoretical approach to the situation.
     
  5. nesta

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    the cold stunts plants making them completely unable to grow, but still alive, therefore it would not reach the budding stage
     
  7. budblower10

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    i understand that, but how cold does it need to be? i mean if it hits 32 once will it automatically kill it on spot? or can they withstand a little bit of frost? thanks
     
  8. M4N14C42O

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    no it doesn't automatically die when it gets to 32F. Most strains can take a small light frost meaning, if the night gets down to the freezing level and the next day it gets a good bit above freezing they will be OK. But if it is in the freezing temp through the night and day it's likely it wont survive.....and if it does its going to be hating life. But on the other hand you don't want too many cold nights or it will stunt the plant and by the time it really starts getting into winter the plant wouldn't be anywhere close to done flowering. My advice would be to just wait until next summer, i mean theres no hurt in trying but IMHO i highly doubt its going to work.

    Nesta was right about them being triggered by photoperiod not age. But i do want to say that if you go 12/12 from seed you may be lucky enough to get around 1oz dry per plant. So if you plant like 6 or 7 and go 12/12 from seed it would work out the same as if you grew out 2 for a month and then went to flowering. And to be honest, as i have eperimented with 12/12 from seed, the plant takes about a month just to switch itself into flowering. So really it works out the same and in my opinion it is way more work to take care of a bunch of small ones rather than a couple big ones ;)
     
  9. nesta

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    good to know, i was curious about perhaps trying that for my first or second grow, just to go for a quicker harvest. the seeds i have are like 32 bucks including shipping, so an ounce per plant, if i got say 6 females out of ten, would be like less than six bucks per ounce.....thats a damn good deal, i'd say. of course with pricier strains i'd want to maximize the yield.

    i'm just really nervous about the female/male ratio. i'm getting some buddies to help out with funding my grow setup in exchange for a portion of the harvest. about an ounce each. but i want to grow 3-5 plants. so basically i need to germinate more in case of getting males, but if i end up with all females i'd be stuck with more plants than i'd be comfortable taking care of...ah, well, i'll figure it out. and with it being so hard for me to find pot lately, my tolerance will be down, and honestly if i get two ounces of good stuff to myself that would probably last till the second harvest anyway, so i suppose i should be more worried about over doing it than under doing it.

    i'd be happy if i just got 4oz
     
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