What Ways Can I Inoculate These Bags?

Alright, I just bought four bags of substrate. They were sent with instructions but I was wondering if there is another way I could do inoculate them instead of having to make Liquid Mycelium? Could I just inject them with spore syringes or do I have to do the LC?

Right now I am trying to make LC out of honey water. It going actually better than expected. I'm going to try it with that also but I'd like to try another way if it is possible. Here is what I have to work with:

The Ultimate Mushroom Spawn Bag

With micropore filter patch and self-healing inoculation site

3 lbs. of Organic Rye Berry Spawn


This auction is for a 100% sterilized and contaminant-free 3 lb. bag. The bag is grain-based and composed completely of organic rye berries that have been hydrated with diluted coffee (to improve colonization times) and gypsum (to avoid clumping). The bag comes pre-sealed and only needs to be inoculated with mushroom spores or liquid culture. This bag is a great substitute for canning jars in the production of spawn to grow mushrooms indoors. In fact, many mushroom farmers use these bags to produce their mushroom spawn. These bags are incredible for all types of grain-loving mushrooms.

At: HEre





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The Ultimate Mushroom Substrate Bag

With micropore filter patch and self-healing inoculation site

5 lbs. of substrate

This auction is for a 100% sterilized and contaminant-free 5 lb. bag. This bag isn't just composed of grain. The bag is composed completely of organic ingredients and is manure based. This bag has been perfectly hydrated and the initial pH level of this bag has been tested at 7.0. No need to add spawn to the bag. The bag comes pre-sealed and only needs to be inoculated with mushroom spores or liquid culture. Multiple flushes are expected to occur with this bag. This bag is truly an all-in-one solution to growing mushrooms indoors. Many types of manure-loving medicinal and edible mushrooms can be grown with the bag. Such as: white button, portobello, crimini, oyster and a number of other manure-loving mushrooms.
Bag Ingredients:

• horse manure that has been aged, dried and shredded
• millet and milo
• vermiculite
• earthworm castings
• coco coir
• garden gypsum
• and a few extra ingredients

Found: HeRe

 

A spore syringe will work fine. However, LC will colonize faster, but you might not want to try LC if this is your first grow because there is greater opportunity for contamination.

 

Ha, I looked at the link you posted and thought it was funny that they write, "This bag is intended for manure-loving medicinal and edible mushrooms only," and then have a picture of P. cubensis growing in one of the bags.

 

Shes a cool lady, I've been conversating with her about the bags often on e bay. Might buy one of her kits. Well, Its not my first grow, its my first grow using these bags and my first time trying to make LC (Liquid Culture). I found on shroomery how to make it with honey water. But like I said its my first time, so I doubt it will be successful but I do see one of the first early signs of it worthing. Anyway, So I could use just my spore syringes to knock up these bags and it'll work the same?

I was thinking that but I wasn't sure because she kept telling me you gotta do it with LC. But I really don't want to because I'm not familar with it and don't want to risk messing up one of my bags and / or waste spores. She probably just told me that because its quicker and I can stretch the ammount of mycelium I have to work with.

 

You're exactly right. You could inoculate with spores, but with that much substrate to colonize, it's gonna take a LONG time.

 

Yeah, 36fucking5 is right, you would be much better off with LC. If you use spores, there's a good chance that it will stall out or at least take forever.

LC is pretty simple though, and you'll probably be fine as long as you take all of the reasonable precautions. 1 tablespoon of honey per pint of water (roughly 4%) is an ideal solution. Pressure cook it for 15 minutes. Then squirt some spores from your syringe into it and wait for about a week. It helps to put some glass shards or something in to break the mycellium up with, but this isn't crucial. This is the easy part.

The difficult part is getting it into a syringe without fucking anything up. Make sure you thoroughly clean your working area (70% isopropyl alcohol and 30% water works great) and use a glove box if possible. A dust mask will also help; at least don't breath on anything and make sure all of the fans and air conditioners where you live are turned off. Somebody I met doesn't use a glove box; he just pops the lid off of the jar and sucks up some mycelium (after flaming the needle of course). He has never had any contamination, so all of that isn't absolutely necessary, but you have a lot of substrate to contaminate if something goes wrong.

You will be a lot better off with LC if you do it right. Be sure to shake your bags after about 20% colonization in order to spread the mycelium and speed things up. If you use LC, then also shake after innoculation. However, do not shake after innoculating if you use a spore syringe.

 

Alright, I'm going to quit being a cheap @$$ and go buy a pressure cooker finally. Lol, Thanx for your help everyone!

 

You're definitely not cheap if you're buying presterilized bags. Purchasing a PC and some jars will save you in the long run if you plan on growing more than once. Smaller ones don't even cost very much.

 

Well, I'm either going to go to a thirft store and get one << my mom suggested that

or I'm going to buy an industrial sized one offline lol. I was supposed to go to CampZoe this weekend until tomorrow.. Wants acid bad.. Cant find unless at such places.. *cries*

My mom used to do canning and she always just steamed jars and stuff. So Thats how I've been doing it but I keep reading this and that about pressure cookers and yeah in the long run it will be cheaper. My bestfriend who has been doing this for quite a while, he laughs at me for buying 25 pounds of substrate. But eh, I have like 800 dollars saved up for going to schwag.


I wanted to buy a whole sheet or two of blottered but doubt that'll happen.

 

The problem with steaming is that the temperature will not exceed water's boiling point, 212 degrees F. With a pressure cooker, higher temperatures are possible. If you're just going to use the PF Tek with brown rice flour, then you can probably just cheap it out and steam your jars, but with whole grains, you need a pressure cooker.

 

I bought a pressure cooker! Just got back, I'm reading the manual right now trying to figure it out. Hehe, I can't wait to give it a go.