hey im 16, up until a few months ago i have been very spiritual through the music of jim morrison and have really felt a connection with a world higher than our "reality". i did mushrooms once last november (only 1.75 g's i might add) and had a totally wonderful and meaningful trip, but over the months a feeling of emptiness has grown, and now i have lost my close connection with jim and the higher reality. i believe in it, but i dont feel it anymore.i wanna do shrooms again to see if i can get the feeling back but i cant find ANYONE in minnesota that deals the only thing i can conclude is possibly the lack of psychedelics? too much weed? i was just wondering if this happends to other ppl and if there are things to do that can help? anyything is appreciated, thanks
It's just part of being 16. It sucks, but it'll pass. Ever try meditation? It leads to the same end-point that psychedelics do. It's much harder and a longer process than just swallowing some powder or fungus, though.
If you can't get shrooms in your town just go to a festival and hang out for the weekend. Maybe you can even find a festie with a Doors tribute band.
i would but there arent any close head shops that i could go to, there is one in downtown but thats a little ways away, plus im 15 so i still live with my rents so idk where id grow them
What do headshops have to do with it? And since you live with your parents, don't grow. That's a lot of risk on them just for you to trip.
There's a lot more out there then mushrooms and The Doors. Musically you have a whole range of artists with psychedelic influences. From trance to folk to classic rock. There are books out there that need reading. Meditation will def. help cultivate and maintain a spiritual element in your life. I don't think it sucks to be 16 at all. I wish I had been aware of the psychedelic / spiritual path at that age. This generation is an enlightened and empowered generation that is going to signifigantly alter the course of human history. The psychedelically inclined I think will influence this imensely. I get what you're saying about the loss of that connection, I've felt it too when I don't have mushrooms for a while. I try to go back to the valuable insights and experiences I have had with them and try to use that to sustain me. Lastly, I can make one reccomendation which I have made many times before. If you into the shamanistic side of shrooms you have to get to know Terence Mckenna. I really got into this guy's audio recordings when i was without mushrooms for an extended period of time. Anyway if your interested in books, music or film to look into let me know or I'm sure lots of people here can help you out. In the meantime here are some links to hours and hours and hours of Terence's recordings made over the years at public gatherings. http://www.futurehi.net/media.html http://www.secondattention.org/main/media.aspx http://www.matrixmasters.com/podcasts/
dude he is fascinating, im reading food of the gods right now too, thanks soooo much for the recording links, i totally dig them
ya terrence mckenna, or do yoga/meditation. try something like acid or E. eating a lot of weed or hash gives a nice trip as well. also try listening to phish or the dead.
im a huuuge dead fan, phish i love too, favorite is jim morrison tho becuase i really believe in the art of contemporary shamanism. hahaha im actually gonna do acid for the first time ever next week while on a canoe trip to the boundary waters. hendrix blows my mind too
jim morrison was just a drunken asshole and easily one of the very most overrated musicians of the era. the doors had a few good songs, mostly songs not actually written by morrison. he contributed little to nothing of any real substance to the psychedelic movement. but i guess thats not the point, really. music is just music, and whether or not you like it, the doors were not some sort of divine messengers. jim morrison was not a shaman. he was a drunk. and a coke fiend. psychedelics are only a means, a tool, they are not the end. you do not need drugs to be spiritual or have divine experiences, and you DEFINITELY dont need any particular music. it sounds to me like the most likely explanation is that you are very, very young. when very young but old enough to be coming into your own (around 15) its very common to get caught up in scenes. people want to belong, people want to find an identity, and very few people have the guts to just strictly be themselves without falling into any stereotypical behavior patterns or anything like that. when i was 15 i loved jam bands, the doors, the grateful dead, sublime, and a bunch of other -mostly- lousy music, i wore tons of "hippy" jewelry and clothing (a lot of it costs a bunch, oddly enough), i wanted bob marley everything, wanted dreadlocks, wanted lots of incense, i had "hippy" posters, i wore patchwork shorts, i wanted to always go barefoot, and a bunch of other bullshit. that feeling of emptiness is most likely whats referred to as angst, but also likely to be caused by knowing on a subconscious level that the stuff you are enthusiastic about isn't really all that great. some of it is, i'm not trying to put you down, but it really sounds like you've got the idea in you that if you like one of these things or a few, that automatically the image of a hippy is for you, that everything that goes along with it is great, too. as you're realizing that the show and game you've put on for the world and for yourself isn't quite close to the true YOU, you'll have an uneasy feeling of discontentment, nervousness, restlessness, etc. its called finding yourself, and we all go through it and many of us never stop going through it. the trick (and its tough to pull off) is to not care what others think and simply go with what you REALLY like. maybe you really do like the doors, my point is not to convince you otherwise. you just need to closely examine every aspect of your lifestyle and your hopes and desires, and remove anything and everything you dont really like. look at me, i'm now a pretty cleancut (usually) guy with short hair and fairly normal manner of dressing. i listen to all kinds of music, from latin to country to hip hop to hard rock to folk music, i like classical and some jazz and many other styles. many of the most popular bands i dislike, but there are some i really love as well. i smoke pot and i also smoke nice cigars. i love jimi hendrix but hate the music of the grateful dead (but at least they made some substantial and important contribution to the psychedelic community and music as a whole). i dont watch much tv, but there are a number of shows i really dig, and generally get DVDs of them if i can. i work for a huge corporation, but one that does a lot of good for a lot of communities that nobody is really aware of. i'm in no way shape or form a hippy. i'm also not ghetto, not a redneck, not a skater or a punk or a "prep" or a frat-boy type, i'm not a bookworm or a geek, and i'm not a christian a jew a muslim a buddhist or anything else. i'm not republican, democrat, or libertarian, i'm not a green. i dont value life in the abstract too much, and dont value human life over animals. but i believe in being a good person and helping others live their lives the best they can, and investing in communities. i dont believe in boundries. i dont believe in taboos. i dont like christians. i dont like modern medicine extending our lives indefinitely and contributing to a decline in quality of life and a dangerous malthusian population explosion. i dont like skateboards. i like motorcycles. i eat meat and don't plan to stop, but i like to keep my meat consumption very minimal. i'm not a vegetarian, let alone vegan, but i don't drink anything with dairy in it. i drink soymilk. i brew my own beer sometimes. i used to grow mushrooms. looking at me, i'm just some guy, and in a crowd i can escape people's attention easily, and if you dont know me i can easily be forgotten if we didnt talk much. all this is very, very different than where i was at 15, and i'm far happier now. i feel what i've become is far closer to who i truly am than where i was at 15, trying to live up to certain various images. i am not perfectly content, and my personality, views, and tastes are constantly changing. i'll never "find" myself, i can just try to be true to who i am now. dont take this post as criticizing you, take it as encouragement. explore what interests you, but remember not to adopt it for yourself automatically because you think its interesting. learn. adapt. be true to what you are inside, don't just try to be like people you admire. there are a lot of reasons for angst and discontentment all through life, but it can be particularly maddening at your age. the empty feeling is normal, even though it sucks. just try and change when you feel that, it often helps.
very wise words nesta just be you not the reincarnation of someone elses life or ideology. dont count on mushrooms to give u an answer. honestly since i first started doing psychadelics i cannot think of one conclusion, one definative answer they have given me which is wat i was looking for in the first place but instead i have found enough questions to keep every philosopher theologian and scientist busy for eternity. the inner peace your looking for is just that "inner" no external force or substance in this world can ever give you that, bc its inside you all mushrooms can do is show you wats already there but u have to open your eyes to see it. but dont worry to much that is a lifelong journey and your still very young and have a lot of time to figure that out. p.s. i have to disagree with u nesta that altho jim morrison was a drunken overated buffoon he still did help to further the movement by simply attracting more ppl to the scene (which could be a good or bad thing) even if it was by simply writing ridiculously far out lyrics and acting like an imbocile he still was a part of the explosion of psycadelia in the sixties
well i suppose this is simply personal bias, but i dont consider his contribution to be significant or positive. attracting people to psychedelics and gaining public notice, in my opinion, is generally a negative thing. psychedelics were accepted and even embraced by the government while they were used in responsible and scientific manners, even in some genuinely spiritual manners. there is a vast amount of research thats been done on a wide range of psychedelics, though mostly with LSD. once psychedelics fell into the hands of foolhardy thrillseekers (late sixties, early seventies) they gained notorious status in the eyes of the powers that be. trippings not for everyone; it produces a very dramatic shift of consciousness. VERY dramatic....and quickly....and not everyone handles it well. when you've got people checking in to hospitals because of bad trips, when you have people quitting work and school and all the other responsibilities people in modern civilization have and in large numbers, when you've literally got a revolution on your hands, of course they're going to crack down on the perceived roots of the problems. so pretty much all the major psychedelics were outlawed in 1970 with the controlled substances act. psychedelics are directly responsible for a number of both good and bad changes in our society. they positively influenced philosophy, visual and performing arts, music, innovative thinking and creative ideas, literature, spirituality, politics, womens lib, the civil rights movement, the vegetarian and environmentalist movement, interest in outdoor noncompetitive sport (backpacking, canoeing, kayaking, rock climbing, etc) and many other things. the psychedelics obviously did not create these things, but psychedelics acted as a catalyst in all these pursuits, raising interest and awareness. of course they all existed before, but the psychedelic movement helped cause some profound changes. but theres the bad side, too. as people realized not all illegal drugs will kill you or cause addiction, and due to the high possibility of a person not coping well with the psychedelic experience, more and more people got turned on to opiates, cocaine, and amphetamines. people engaged in a "bad trip" often freaked out and made a scene. people quit jobs, quit school, and discarded their responsibilities (most of which people later realized were necessary for a functioning modern society of luxury...its been said that first people turned on, tuned in and dropped out, but then turned on, tuned in, and took over) the country was in -one- of its most unstable and nervous periods in history, and the most obvious solution to helping reverse the damage that the psychedelic movement had caused was to ban all psychedelics. people like timothy leary had -some- great ideas and really helped the psychedelic movement in a lot of ways, but at the same time espousing the idea that anyone and everyone should use psychedelics was foolish and dangerous, and in the end the widespread use of psychedelics lead to the controlled substances act. the worst of these irresponsible advocates, in my opinion, is definitely ken kesey and his merry pranksters - the epitome of irresponsibly using LSD as if it were a toy, and encouraging, glamorizing, and introducing its use to many people. at least leary tried to encourage somewhat responsible drug use. if the doors and jim morrison had a significant impact on people and attracted them to psychedelics, then in my opinion thats a bad thing. psychedelics are not for everyone, not everyone can handle them, and not everyone who uses them has a worthwhile experience. even if its fun, its not worthwhile if you dont take away anything positive. in my opinion, psychedelics are appropriately approached only when you use either a scientific or a spiritual approach. the best approach, as far as i'm concerned, is a halfway point between science and spirituality. psychedelics are not automatically spiritually beneficial, and science is unable to answer or explain the questions and theories that serious psychedelics such as DMT raise. i suppose pseudoscience is the only way to describe a field partly scientific and partly spiritual, and largely unprovable yet empirically sound and repeatable. but like i said, its personal bias. i understand a lot of people feel very differently about this, and it involves a lot of very strong opinions. i think psychedelics should be available, but i also believe only certain people should use them, and i would never advocate their use to the general public. furthering the movement, in my opinion, would imply insight, foresight, wisdom, education, seeking of knowledge, research, and so on. simply attracting people to using psychedelics to have the trip of their lives is irresponsible, i think. psychedelics can be a catalyst for great things, but they do not CAUSE great things. they offer virtually no answers, they only raise questions. if the right person takes them in the right way, they can have wonderful benefits. if used irresponsibly on a large scale, they will have a negative effect on society as a whole. i am torn between loving and hating the psychedelic movement's beginnings, but am pleased to see a number of highly inteligent and responsible people engaging in a kind of psychedelic rennaisance, connecting somewhat anonymously through the world wide web and hard copy literature such as books by terrence mckenna.
jim was an astounding poet that just shocks me, i am definetly not into the psychedelics and some teachings derived from them because i want to fit in, no one i know (besides online) shares my beliefs, i truly think there is more to this world and universe than the cold hard science of today, and that psychedelics can be used as a door into their discovery. however, we must step through it. i disagree with the notion that psychedelics arent for everyone, everyone has a mind and a consciousness, but they must be prepared to accept the magic and wonders of the drugs, which is a big part of maturity. but it seems someone is always out there to fuck up their image. sorta got like a ying and yang type of use huh?
and the reason why he was so off the beaten path of those days is because he was basically different from any other psychedelic band, he didnt play by the rules, he tested the bounds of reality. he was criticized EXTREMELY harshly by the media, and being young i think he took it kind of hard, which is partly the reason for his extensive alcohol use, he needed it to continue his shamanic journey, sort of like jesus in a sense, although jesus was the real deal, morrison was only a conveyor between worlds. this is all of course my own opinion in the sake of argument. no more no less
how exactly did he "not play by the rules or test the bounds of reality" by tahing a bunch of drugs and screaming extremely far out lyrics to a trippy backsound, or by getting drunk and fighting with cops,girlfriends and others in public. most of the image of jim morrison as a bohemian intellectual who was simply too deep for avg joes to understand is largely a myth created by hollywood journalists and other fanatics that hype him up for a week and then move on to the next crazy famous nut. altho jim morrison had to have some sort of thought and depth to be able to write his songs wat exactly seperated him from mick jagger or any other rock star that wrote songs.jim morrison was just another human being who wrote songs and lived thats it. he is not this demigod reincarnation of christ in psychadelic form just b/c he wrote some trippy stuff and personally i think that part of the reason for his alcohol abuse and apparent depression might have been the realization of his own overratedness or inability to keep up with his image. if anyone can name one major philosophy or poetic ideology that came directly from morrison and wasnt simply a consolidation of nietzchean and several other philosophers that he identified with. all he is remembered for is his music which is good but simply not as angelic or shamanic as has been portrayed and his live fast die young rockstar party life, and to make him out to be something he is not is to discredit the true poet completely. to love for his image not his artwork would be enough to bother any artist. not to mention if you think hes anywhere near one of the greatest poets you have obviously no clue watsoever also if you think that half the ppl downtown at the welfare line should be using hard psychadelics u r a fucking idiot. im not saying you r a fucking idiot but truly rethink your statement b4 you stick to it. keep in mind u said everyone there are some ppl that to give these drugs to would be disastrous even deadly. one thing u must realize is that some ppl simply never will come to the maturity u speak of no matter wat drugs u give them.
Jim was an alcoholic before he was famous. It is true that he was just another human being, and he is not a deity or a god. However he was a very good poet, and the idea of him being a total asshole was indeed brought on by the media as well as the movie The Doors.
