People's veiws on the war of Vietnam

well,whats your veiws on the war of Vietnam??

 

Pretty much the same as my feelings about Iraq.

 

Not sure...too many good/bad/in diffrent vietnam films..


Did notice the games world getting involved

http://www.eagames.com/official/battlefield/vietnam/us/home.jsp

stripped away a lot of relevance ...i think

vietnam/iraq...no comparison. Even if you wish it. No comparison at alll (IMHO)

 

Right... so you can sit there and tell us that there is no comparison of vietnam and iraq, when you quite obviously don't know too much about the vietnam war?

Please, make an intelligent decision. Review the facts. Think deeply on it. Do something other than watching a few war films. Maybe, just maybe, you'll find something there under the surface..

Things aren't always as they appear.

 

Just imagine if a foreign race came into this land, and with savage industrial fire-power dispossessed us of our own land.


Imagine you and your children and your children's children held in racial servitude by a pale alien invader.

There you are in a constant state of starvation being worked to death in rubber plantations by a merciless people who hold you in racial contempt.

A people who bury your wasted dead bodies as fertilizer under those same rubber trees.

A people who believe that they are on a glorious civilizing mission and are doing you slope-head gooks a great favor.

A people who dismiss you as a communist when you join the only organization effectively oppossing their racist colonial oppression.

A people who insist that they will never leave your land as long as you insist on resisting their occupation.

Would you stop resisting?
Or would have the courage to fight these alien invaders and their cowardly collaboraters with every breath of life within you?

That was the no-win situation of the Franco-American experience in Vietnam.

Now, our brave President says that we will occupy Iraq until all Sand-****** terrorist resistance stops.
But the Resistance say they will never stop until we cease to occupy their Iraq.
............Deja Vu

 

I think it compares to Iraq too. Both pointless, meaningless and sad wars.

 

There's already a fairly long (and recent) thread on this subject here:


http://hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19321

 

Honestly, I don't think anyone knows enough about Vietnam. There are of course many opinions on it. I don't know that anyone knows the truth either, but maybe there is a bit of it here and there out there.

I for one didn't learn much about it anywhere and would love some information. They didn't teach us about that in school. I would perfer it to be unbiased, and have absolutely nothing to do with Iraq, because I can draw my own conclusions regarding similarities. Feel free to message me if you don't want to post here. I appreciate it.

 

That would be all good and well, but the Vietnam war was a DEFENSIVE war. Nobody was trying to imperialize the North, we were fighting to stop them from invading the South (which they did once we left, slaughtering hundreds of thousands of innocent South Vietnamese).

 

See:

http://www.vwam.com/vets/early2.html

and

http://www.rjsmith.com/kia_tbl.html

 

Max,

Consider this;
Your house is broken into by a gang of murdering thieves.

They chase you and your son upstairs while holding your helpless wife and daughter hostage downstairs.

You hear their screams for help and run downstairs to save them while the murdering thieves shoot at you calling you a trespassing aggressor, because it was one of your own uncles who helped them break into your own house.

Are you going to crawl back upstairs just because its your own corrupt uncle who is now helping them rape your wife and daughter?

I don't think your that kind of spineless punk.

But WE refuse to give these Slopehead Gooks the same credit for possessing the same human feelings that normal descent americans like US possess.

Remember, just like the North, the overwhelming majority of Vietnamese in the South saw the Vietminh as LIBERATORS, patriot heros.

That is why we broke the Geneva Cease-fire Agreement of 1954, and refused to allow the elections of 1956.

Because everyone knew that the Vietminh would overwhelmingly win.

 

How dramatic. You should be a writer. Even I know that is not how it went down though. There is a little more to it than that.

 

.....which is why the honorable liberators saw it fit to slaughter hundreds of thousands of Southerners right?

 

Max,


Isn't that the usual fate of collaborators?
Isn't that what we would do to collaborators if it ever happens here?
And especially after generations of brutal savage racist oppression.

CutieBear,

Believe me, I would rather tuck you in at night and whisper in your ears sweet fairytales about the purity of our hearts, but the sorrows of this world are too painful to be ignored.

What I related is far from the whole story.

I could never do justice to the whole nightmare that we forced those poor people suffered.

 

Have a look at

http://www.hipforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19321&page=1&pp=10

 

Thank you please

 

The vietnam war is just another attrocity commited by the united states... this time its the world global capitalist forces supressing any other political ideology because they fear they may lose their mass of wealth and power...

the majority of vietnamese agreed with ho chi minh and wanted him to have power, the united states couldnt have this... so they murdered them.

 

Provide some evidence for this. You apparently ingored the link I referred you to previously, which tallies the casualties (civilian and military) on each side. We killed far more Vietnamese than the VC and NVA. It's almost comical to suggest that we were somehow fighting to prevent a bloodbath.

 

The Geneva Agreement was signed by the French Union for all of Vietnam south of the 17th parallel.

The Agreement observes the fact that there was, is, and always will be only one Vietnam.

The agreement calls for the complete reunification of Vietnam and nation wide elections in 1956.

The French re-installed the ex-Emperor (who at that time was Ho Chi Minh's special adviser) to prepare those areas below the 17th parallel for re-unification and national elections.

However in 1955, the Emperor's Primier Diem, declared that he would NOT fulfill the French Union's obligation, and would NOT hold national elections.

As our own National Elections of 2004 seems to have become a referendom on the Vietnam War, it's important to see the big picture of how Western interference around the world ignites patriotic resistance around the world.

Western interference breeds hatered and resistance.
And Western resistance to resistance breeds more resistance.

The Iraqi's, though happy to see the back-side of Saddam, remember that the reason they had supported Saddam's nationalist Baath Party in the first place was to liberate themselves from Western exploitation.

Which is why those same people will never be happy until they see the back-side of us.

 

Thank you please