Bush War Adviser Says Draft Worth a Look

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  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8QUECGG1&show_article=1

    Bush War Adviser Says Draft Worth a Look

    Aug 10 06:25 PM US/Eastern
    By RICHARD LARDNER



    WASHINGTON (AP) - Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday.

    "I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."

    "And I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table. But ultimately, this is a policy matter between meeting the demands for the nation's security by one means or another," Lute added in his first interview since he was confirmed by the Senate in June.

    President Nixon abolished the draft in 1973. Restoring it, Lute said, would be a "major policy shift" and Bush has made it clear that he doesn't think it's necessary.

    The repeated deployments affect not only the troops but their families, who can influence whether a service member decides to stay in the military, Lute said.

    "There's both a personal dimension of this, where this kind of stress plays out across dinner tables and in living room conversations within these families," he said. "And ultimately, the health of the all- volunteer force is going to rest on those sorts of personal family decisions."

    The military conducted a draft during the Civil War and both world wars and between 1948 and 1973. The Selective Service System, re- established in 1980, maintains a registry of 18-year-old men. Rep. Charles Rangel, D-N.Y., has called for reinstating the draft as a way to end the Iraq war. Bush picked Lute in mid-May as a deputy national security adviser with responsibility for ensuring efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan are coordinated with policymakers in Washington. Lute, an active-duty general, was chosen after several retired generals turned down the job.
     
  2. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Its about time they enacted one. I support it 100%.

    Know why? Because it will finally cut the throats of the neocons and their backers.

    I'm a firm believer in a horrible end rather than an endless horror.

    Its time to make people angry so we can end this mess.



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  3. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Uh, huh... Told ya so.... neh neh!

    It has taken longer that I anticipated.

    Well who woulda thought they would GLADLY recruit gang members, felons, people up to 42 years old and the mentally disturbed first?

    Yup and now that they're run out of those CHOICE recruits, it's time to get rid of this farcical "all volunteer" army and start drafting those starting college.

    We NEED MORE CANNON FODDER NOW!

    I hope all you young ones have dutifully registered your asses with the Draft Board (Selective Service). They're coming for YOU next!

    OH, wait, I just remembered...

    They don't need you to register anymore cause under the "no child left behind" law, every school MUST report the DOB and home address of every student. So they KNOW where you are even if you didn't register.

    Why do you think it's called the "no child left behind" law? Cause they don't want to leave ANY CHILDREN out of this WAR!
     
  4. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    More employment is a good thing. More ppl can make some kind of money. If the darft comes it'll open up more available job oppurtunities here in the U.S. for us who can stay free from the draft.
     
  5. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I don't see it happening under a republican government, only because they want to protect their offspring.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Does it really make any difference whether it's Republican or Democrat? Either way, the sons and daughters of the wealthy and powerful will never see war.
     
  7. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I doubt Chelsea faces the draft.
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    How many presidential candidates do have draftable age children or grandchildren. I did a google...couldn't find any useful information. Something voters should be familiar with I think. We know Romney's kids think they are doing their civic duty by promoting their father's canidacy.
     
  9. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Yeah, now Romney issued a "I misspoke" claim, denying that what his children were doing can even been compared to those who risk their lives in the service of our country.

    But by even saying what he said originally, that his kids were doing a CIVIC or patriotic duty by helping him run for president, he has revealed the double standard of American politicians who believe they are ABOVE us all. And that their children are some how better than ours and needn't make the same sacrifices the rest of Americans are having to make.

    That is gonna cost him a LOT of credibility and votes, except among Mormons who think they can escape a draft because they do "missionary work", soliciting their religion door-to-door.

    I say NO RELIGIOUS DEFERMENTS! NO POLITICAL DEFERMENTS, and every elected official's children should automatically be drafted, females too!

    Let's bring it on home to these warmongering politicians. Put up your kids as sacrificial lambs on the altar of your OIL WARS, cause we're NOT GONNA TAKE IT ANYMORE!
     
  10. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    I really love how easily you guys are manipulated by the media.

    Try reading the original interview here:

    http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=12688693

    He's not calling for the draft, in fact he says an all volunteer force is "serving us exceptionally well" and is "viable in the long run".

    But Breitbart only gives you the sensationalist part of the story, i.e. Bush administration official says the word "draft", so they can get lots of web hits. It works.

    This topic belongs in the dustbin with all the other scaremongering draft stories. Or should I say recycling bin? I'm sure we'll see the same story in another six months.
     
  11. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    It's not going to happen under this administration, but if we continue to rely on our military in the manner we are doing currently, and the popular opinion contines the way it is now. If young people don't enlist or join the national guard, it will be a done deal, or the wars will have to be closed down. Like old hippies like to say...You can't hold a war if no one comes., especially if it's based on people volunteering to take part.
     
  12. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    Pepik, you are ignoring the very serious crisis facing the military over recruitment. As I've already stated the only way they could meet their requirements now that they've already had to scrape the bottom of the barrel with felons, gang members and mentally deficient (hey if our president can be mental, why not our soldiers, right?), is to offer $20,000 to every new recruit.

    It'll soon become $30,000, then $40,000... Then the DRAFT will come... Just wait...
     
  13. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Who in the hell is this pepik guy?Some spook assigned to this site.?One of roves little operatives about 160 steps below the top?The fuck do these people come from?
     
  14. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Not to mention they now allow over 40s to enlist, and accept convicted convicts. In my day the enlistment age ended at 32 and no one with an arrest record that included a felonly could enlist. Seems the bars been lowered.
     
  15. skip

    skip Founder Administrator

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    I call 'em bottom feeders. Some ppl get paid to write such drivel. Why else do people LEAP at the chance to repeat their programmed mantras over and over? Always responding to the words of others, never leading their own discussion.

    What's their mantra again?

    Deny, distort, distract, derail?

    Every post is usually like that.
     
  16. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    In any forum I've ever belonged to, if you mention either neocons or zionists, they show up to balance the argument.

    They may be just regular Joe's who support that side of the story, but I've personally encountered people from AIPAC who haunt politcal forums to do their version of damage control.

    They absolutely cannot tolerate dissent from the programming they've spent decades in building up to the American public. And as the US feeds their bank account, they can't afford to be seen for what they are. Just another group trying to take over the world.

    The Iraq war has their stink all over it.



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  17. Pepik

    Pepik Banned

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    Taking the high road there Skip?

    Have a look. YOU got conned by a Breitbart article. >I< went back and read the orginal, source material and got the story RIGHT. Every other time the draft came up and I slagged it off as fearmongering, and I WAS RIGHT EVERY TIME. I was right then, I'm right now. What does that have to do with "deny distory, distract, derail"? I'm on topic, and I've done my research. Is there a rule against being right?
     
  18. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Hope you are right Pepik, but fear it's only a matter or time.
     
  19. cadcruzer

    cadcruzer Sailing the 8 seas

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    War advisers cant re-institute the draft.

    Its up to congress to pass a law then the president signing it.
    Last time it went to vote it lost 402-2.
     
  20. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    "Congress" should be hung from the telephones poles up and down Pennsylvania avenue for allowing this war to begin with.

    They don't represent us anymore.


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