Harry Potter 7 - Don't read if you don't want to know what happen

1. What was your favourite chapter?
2. Were the deaths necessary? ----- Lupin, Tonks, Hedwig, Fred Dobby
3. Is it the best book of the series?
4. were you satisfied by the ending?
5. Was Snape good or bad?

1. Probably kings cross, it was so open to your imagination.
2 Yes It shows if you have a war innocent lives are going to be taken.
3. Although I think it was when I read the other ones they will appear better!
4. Yep, Voldemort couldn't take over, or even be alive at the end of the book, if he was what was the point in the series!
5.Bad, I know he was on the right side, but I still think of him as a jerk, he bullied young children, especially Harry, the son of the woman whom he loved, I know he had to keep is pretence up to voldemort but he believed him dead for many years, can anybody like that be good?

I just saw there is a book club section, sorry about that.

P.S. Even people who don't read, read harry potter.

 

did you see, there's a kid in France who published his own translation on the web within days of the book coming out. he can't have slept much, and it's hard to believe the translation would be much good ...

 

1) The final battle scenes back at Hogwarts.

2)No, I thought a lot of them were gratuitous. When an author creates a character he or she should have a certain responsibility to them. They should only kill them off if it advances the story in a certain way or is necessary for emotional impact. They shouldn't be subject to random termination. Lupin and Tonks' deaths had no emotional impact on me, they died 'off-screen' as it were and for no reason at all. It was a shame to see Lupin, who had been my favourite character in book 3, reduced to nothing more than cannon fodder. If he was going to die, he should have gone out spectacularly. I saw the necessity of Dumbledore and to a lesser extent Sirrius's death. The former had a lot of impact for me, the latter had little because I didn't feel Rowling dealt that well with the emotional elements of it, but was still plot significant. Dobby, I suppose, was bound to die. Fred was a surprise death and a shame. Not entirely pointless, but I'd rather he'd survived for a happier ending - plus splitting up Fred and George is criminal. I think he should have lost an ear for comic effect. Snape's death was necessary. Even though he had to kill Dumbledore, I still think he had to be sacrificed to absolve him of his sins.

3) Close, but I thought Half Blood Prince was better and had more interesting plot twists.

4) Largely yes. It was conclusive, Harry didn't die, Voldemort snuffed it, flash forward, the end. The only thing I thought was lacking was communication between Harry and Voldemory before they fought. After 7 books of growing animosity and eventualy mortal opposition of prophetic proportions, they barely said hello to each other. Voldemort didn't have to tell Harry he was his father or anything, but something more dramatic and revalatory would have been good.

5) Snape was a force for good. He did some bad things, but he was always acting for the greater good. In this sense he was something of an anti-hero, his methods might have been questionable but his cause was not. Snape was definitely one of the more interesting characters. Where everyone else was black or white for the most part, he was decidedly grey. On balance, though, his actions proved positive. The Nazi parallel runs through the whole Potter series and in this, I think, Snape comes closest to being Schindler.

 

i still haven't read it yet.
i have it ... but haven't read it.

so will have to offer my opinions at a later date.

i've seen enough spoilers though that i'm not worried about being surprised anymore.

Sirius being killed in Order of the Phoenix, btw was horrible. She might not have developed the tragedy of it properly, but his death moved me alot.
I loved that character most.

*grins* especially in the film as he's played by Gary Oldman and i have a very strange infatuation with that man

 

I haven't read any of the books but still I looked up the ending to see what happened. Meant nothing to me whatsoever, because I don't know who any of the characters are, because I haven't read any of the books! D'oh!

 

that's a bit sad that you wanted to know the ending despite never reading the books.
what would be the point?

 

I think Peace Phoenix is very right in some respects. Lupin and tonk's death is an off-screen moment which, for two much loved characters, should have been given more attention.

The end fight with Voldermort is short lived and not very dramatic I must say. I was also anoyyed about the running theme of Harry's doubt of Dumbledore through the book.

It is a book which thousands of people have been looking forward to and I think could have done more.

Oh, and by the way, Harry does die, but returns to life, LOL!

 

1. urhhh. Well i think itd have to be when we found out Snape memories, the Gringott Bank or er... The bit with Draco and at the end, Oooh when Neville finally kicked back... Or when Ron came back. Or with Luna.... I dunno i have alot of small good bits but nothing really stood out.

2. Yes. I felt the others were too centered around Harry.
Ooh Harry you're so clever. You won at quidich again. Oooh you've beat Voldemort AGAIN shocker. Oh harry youre the best at everything... Oh Harry you're so Loyal and bloody PERFECT!!
So not realistic. People do get scared you know.

3. it was okay i guess. I wanted Harry to die. Sad but true. It was a bit bland but ok. Dont get why Tonks and Lupin had to die... but harry didnt.

4. Snape was good. James was bad. James was a jerk. If it had been me that met James he would've taken the piss of me too. No doubt. Snape i think had alot of problems in his life and i think another time another place he could've had his happy ever after. If only...
I always thought people were too harsh on him. I think he was jealous of Harry - Maybe he in someway blamed Harry for Lilys death as if Harry was not born Lily would not have died. I wish he had a happy ending. I wish he got some recognition. I think what he did was much harder then anybody elses actions.
He had to stand by and look after the child that was the reason of his one loves death. Harry was like James as well which wont have helped. If you saw the memories you'll see Sirius was a jerk to Snape from the off. He never had a chance.

Sorry its a bit much.

 

I did this too.

In response to Phoenix Indigo:

The reason I wanted to know the end without reading any of the books is because I've heard so many of my friends talking so much shit about fucking Harry Potter that I feel I should know the end, even though I never have any intention of reading any of the books.

Not into reading books with lots of hype, they bore me. Especially Harry Potter, there are much better fantasy writers out there...take Ursula Le Guin, for example.

 

And yes...I do realise that I am rereading "The Hobbit", but Tolkien just doesn't count. I was a fan long before the LOTR films came out (I started from the beginning, reading "The Silmarillion" first).

 

I lOVE The Hobbit - i even have the game! I think its better than the LOTR.

 

Nay ... that makes sense I guess.
Would just not be my style, personally. Either I have to know it all or can't be arsed to know anything about it. It is interesting though how something you have never read/seen can suck you in via people around you jabbering on so much about it.


... you know what's really really pathetic though ... i bought this book when it came out and haven't even cracked it open yet. been too busy reading other things ... which reminds me i need to buy more Jeff Noon books too.

 

Ok, I just finished reading this. I couldn't sleep and finished it off.

I thought it was brilliant. I'd say now of the 7 books my least favourite was probably The Half-Blood Prince. This one was really quite dark and sinister, which it obviously needed to be. Sure it could have been more dark and more sinister; but well it is technically a children's book, and I don't think people tend to write Grimm's Tales anymore for kids.

There were deaths that probably could have been avoided, Hedwig, Lupin, Tonks, Fred. But at the same time, having these deaths occur continued to build the story of Harry's pain and suffering and what affect the losses were having on him. At the beginning when Hedwig was killed, I was thinking that it seemed like they were trying to take everything away from Harry that was important to him.

To see the sacrifice that others were making for him, and realizing that he just wished he could sacrifice himself to save all of them, is truly the primary 'moral' of the story. Utter self-sacrifice to benefit those around you. The fact that he even went out of his way to save Draco, shows what sort of self-sacrificing personality that Harry was supposed to have.

The most moving bit of the book for me, outside of the initial moment when Harry was digging Dobby's grave, was after Snape had been killed by Voldemort, and Harry went to the pensive in the Headmaster's office to look back at Snape's memories. At this point in the storyline we all basically hate Snape. We think he is a turn-coat come traitor who was deceiving Dumbledore all along and everyone felt Dumbledore had been sorely misguided at trusting Snape. But at the moment that you see the connection between Snape and Lily when they were children, and then the blossoming story of how Snape got wrapped up with the Death-Eaters and then began to betray Voldemort because Voldemort never did understand how much he loved Lily, it all just starts to fall together and you really do start to feel a deep and utter appreciation for the slimey man. We had already felt bad for Snape in the past, when we saw how James had teased him at school, and at times I know I often thought of Snape as a young Harry Potter with James being the equivalent of Draco Malfoy jeering and taunting Harry. And once again, now you feel bad for him again, as his position in the plan to aide Harry to rid the world of Voldemort caused him to be the outcast once again. Even his prized place next to Voldemort did not last, as Voldemort betrayed him in the end for his own selfish means. So of all the characters at the bitter end, I personally feel the worst for Snape. I never thought I'd say that, but as a character he was always intriguing, you either wanted to feel bad for him or you wanted to hate him. But at the end, you are shown a true admiration and respect for the fine, lonely line he walked to help the good and play the evil as fools.

I must also admit, I loved the way the story wrapped up "19 Years Later". It was a loving glimpse into that future that the characters all hold together. Still the separate stories are there, but they are all intertwined and intermeshed together. There are inseparable bonds amongst the characters, things they have experienced; and now it is time for their children to live and learn and maybe find out all their parents did while they were at Hogwarts.

This obviously isn't a book you could just 'recommend on its own merit' though it was an amazing story, it really needs the full storyline to make it complete; but for anyone who has read the other Harry Potter books, I'd highly recommend it, and for those that haven't, you just don't know what you are missing.


hopefully all this is coherent and not utter random ramblings, as i am quite shattered now and need sleep.