I'm glad things have changed since the '50's.

I found this while browsing around...and it's quite absurd actually. I'm glad I live in a day and age where we, as women, aren't expected to act like slaves.

 

Well it worked for over 2000 years :leaving:

Aristotle: On the Good Wife

A good wife should be the mistress of her home, She should allow none to enter without her husband's knowledge, dreading above all things the gossip of gadding women, which tends to poison the soul. She alone should have knowledge of what happens within. She must exercise control of the money spent on such festivities as her husband has approved--But in all other matters, let it be her aim to obey her husband; giving no heed to public affairs.


Hotwater

 

with all due respect, back in the fifties, the man was the sole bread winner. the woman pulled her weight at home. it is jsut like a job, but she dosent fill out a W4.

i dont agree with the statement " his topics are more important than yours", but a lot of the other stuff i do.

you dont feel happy when you make your man happy?

that article basically describes many mens dream wife. i know i wouldnt fuck it up if i had a woman like that.

 

haha...you'd be dumb to fuck up, considering how hard a woman like that in this day and age is to come by.

 

gossip is satan.

the wife complains to her friends, and what do her friends say? i bet its over 70% of the time "you deserve better than that".

which in turn makes the wife confront the man and it all goes downhill from there.

it dosent take a genius to figure out that there is a corelation between the divorce rate and domestic violence rate and the liberation of crazy women

 

So basically bring on those Stepford Wives


Hotwater

 

whats a stepford wife
?

 

http://www.stomptokyo.com/movies/s/stepford-wives.html


The perfect robotic wife who never says "no'" and always has dinner waiting at the table when her husband returns home from a hard day at work.

Hotwater

 

nah, i just want a woman that wants me happy

 

personally imi pretty happy that we arent using lysol as a douche anymore either

 

Yeah to bad for the good Ol days, I mean don't get me wrong I don't agree with everything on that forum but I'm getting really tired of going with chicks that I have to teach how to cook, clean & actually do things. Chicks these days expact the man to do everything while they sit on their ass & talk to their girlfriends on the phone all day. They expect that by them spreading their legs for you is good enough payment for all your hard work.

 

dave printed that out and put it on our fridge. so i threw it in the trash. he printed out another copy, put it on the fridge. i tore it into teensy pieces and put it in his dinner. he printed it out again, so i didn't have sex with him. that sorta ended that.

 

Oddly enough I would actually prefer a more egalitarian marriage I think. Im not exactly comfortable with oppressing someone for my own conveniences. But then again I was more or less raised by a feminist

And I agree society has made a lot of progression in that area, but there are still some pretty heavy gender roles out there

 

Women are brainwashed into thinking they're no longer slaves, when they are bigger slaves than ever. While women were once "slaves" to their families (THEIR OWN CHILDREN), they're now slaves to their careers and big-business. They think they've been liberated because feminism and the media tells them they are.

The goal of feminism was all about getting both parents working, which would draw in double the tax money, while the children would be raised and indoctrinated by the state. If you look at who bankrolled the feminist movement, it becomes even more obvious.

Is it any wonder why society is in the state that it's in today, with the ever-increasing divorce rates, crime, poverty, and overall disillusionment? That is what happens when the family takes a backseat to capitalism and materialism.

 

One of the most intelligent and insightful observations I've read on the HF. Well put.

 

While I dont disagree with this, I dont think its that cut and dry. Its my contention that the women should not be subjected to either of these elements of control. and while there have been advancements in conscious thinking about human rights in general, the growth of corporatism has done damage to these notions fo rboth genders not just females. I think of the stuff you mentioned independently of the "womens movement" or whatever, too many other variables changed then as well. In your mind you are trading one for the other when its probably more dynamic. Out of curiousity, what do you advocate?

I have more to say about this but Im pretty hungry and too faded to want to type. Yes Im a druggie, another topic you like to generalize haha

 

*sigh* i totally agree with rat. i'm a SAHM, though. it's pretty mentally brutal, andi don't get days off or vacations. dave still gets his month off for hunting, nigts out with the guys, he's never once had to get up with the girls unless he was already up. and i still consider that fair, since my work is low level stress, but the mental and emotional endurance takes up quite a lotta energy. it's an even distribution of labor, i think, and our kids are raised by their own parents. so we don't have a lotta money, and sometimes don't have any at all. we still have the backyard, beer,the ability to crack each other up, happy children and an preference for each other's company than anyone else's.

 

however, once my girls are a bit more raised up, i'm SO GOING BACK TO WORK. good god! i don't know how women stayed sane before the internet and phone calls. never having a grown up to talk to can turn you into a drooling idiot.

 

First of all, I don't "advocate" anything. I am just telling it like it is. The fact is, regardless if you are male or female, we are all living under the same capitalist system, and if we choose to partake in that system, we are slaves to that system regardless of what sex we are. For a woman to think she is a slave for staying home (as in not being a career woman) and caring for her children, it's not a natural belief, but a conditioned belief instilled in the public mindset of women through feminism. Feminism was promoted heavily through the media, books and magazines as a deliberate way to turn society upside-down and make people more dependent on the state by destroying the family unit.

Women are no more or less enslaved than men are, nor were they then. And they are certainly no less enslaved since they took on the role of men. Women are more enslaved now because, instead of being "slaves" (if you choose to use that term) to their own flesh and blood, they are now slaves to the money system, which is and has always been an inhumane system.

Feminism (or as I like to call it, fe-manism) told women that men are pigs and that children are dirty, and that if they stayed home and cooked or cared for the children, they were somehow being oppressed by the male. They were told that, by joining the workforce and becoming more like men, only then would they be liberated from the burden of family.

Ask yourself who really stood to gain from this mentality.

What feminism did was turn women against men and vice versa. This not only helped to break apart the family, but also confuse the natural role of men and women, where now men have become more like women, while women have become more like men. The media has a lot to do with this as well, because if you look at most people today, in a lot of ways they are parodies of what's portrayed through the media. That's why so many men today are almost carbon copies of Ray Romano or Homer Simpson.

Monkey see, monkey do.