Describe Your Political Persuasion

Discussion in 'Politics' started by xexon, Aug 6, 2007.

  1. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    As for me, I'm somewhere between a socialist and an anarchist.

    I believe the government should serve the people instead of feeding off of them. What is the point of paying taxes if the people themselves don't reap the benefits?

    Education should be free. Healthcare should be free. Assistance to the elderly and disabled should be generous instead of miserly.

    As for goverments who fall short on these matters, I see no alternative but to push the reboot button. You deserve to be torn apart and dismantled for the predatory systems you have become. Democracy has become nothing more than a good looking corpse in the US and elsewhere.

    Its time the people assumed control and end the influence of special interest groups in our goverments. Their agendas have been bleeding our treasuries for years to finance what they want out of the world.

    What I want out of the world is to get these power trippers gone, and return the power to the only one's who deserve to wield it.

    The people themselves.



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  2. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I don't have any political persuasion because I know that politics are, and have always been designed strictly for the "unenlightened" public, for divide and conquer purposes. Once you understand that Democracy is a sham and there is really only one party at the top -- and that the people really have no say in matters -- you begin to see politics for what they are: a diversion and a smoke screen. The public believes in this scam, never realizing they're marketed their opinions and views in the form of media talking points, believing it's really their opinion and that they actually have a say in things.

    Most people, because of their conditioning, think governments exist for their own benefit and well-being. But all one has to do is look back through history to see that governments of any kind -- now and then -- have NEVER existed for the benefit of the people, but to keep the few at the top living in absolute luxury, while those below subservient to their system.

    What the people BELIEVE government should be, and what they are in reality, is two very different things. People THINK the government is their daddy, so they are willing to shell out their hard-earned money in taxes, believing the government is going to be there for them from cradle to grave and protect them from "those guys over there." But most of that money really only goes to the controllers, in order to increase the size of government, making it harder for the people to rebel against that system should they wake up and realize they've been had. But at the same time, power-mad elitists understand that the people rarely bite the hand that feeds them, and this is where the socialist nanny-state comes into play.

    Socialism is one of the government's biggest tools, because it consolidates even more power and control in the hands of those controlling it. Because to those at the top, socialism is really nothing more than monopoly capitalism. In fact, to those who control capitalism, socialism is like a wet dream.
     
  3. guitarpeace

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    I believe in no government, no money, no ownership of land. I dont know what those beliefs are called but I know its not going to happen in my time. Humans have went on the wrong path and we are all living to play the money game.
     
  4. WalkerInTheWoods

    WalkerInTheWoods Member

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    I don't care much for labels but should I have to choose something I would say I am a libertarian anarchist. I agree with what Pressed Rat said. I think governments are inefficient and wasteful. Anything you want you could get much cheaper, more quickly, and more effectively either doing it yourself, as a community, or paying someone else to do it for you. All governments become corrupt, even if they are started with the best of intentions. People eventually come to realize that they can use the government for their own advantages at the expense of others. Governments get in the way of our freedoms. They don’t protect them. I am for small government and could definitely live without any government. Let people be free to do what they want as long as it does not hurt anyone else. That is freedom, not controlling and regulating people into drones.


    The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it always to be kept alive.

    I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it.

    - Thomas Jefferson
     
  5. Sign Related

    Sign Related The Don Killuminati

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    :rockon: I'm a modern day :sunny:revolutionary communist/anarchist under the sun. I think laws should be outlawed and a less government should equip all with firearms and ammo and should tax all money made and be for giving the working class equal pay :greedy: . Then ppl would be safe and sound.
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    ^How come everything you say contradicts itself? You say you're for communism, but you want less government???

    You say you believe in the right to bare arms (???), when the goal of communism has always been to disarm the public.

    You're for less government, but you believe the government has the right to tax you and that the government should determine people's pay?

    Wow! You make absolutely no sense at all.
     
  7. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    anarcho-capitalist/libertarian/individualist is the best that i can put it, but i hate using labels, labels just give the other person a target to shoot at instead of actually dealing with you and your opinions he can address this label or that and what he thinks he remembers those label's opinions are.

    i believe we can work together as sovereign individuals on an equal footing without being in a communtarian/collectivist hive. See and acknowledge people as individuals instead of groups to be manipulated and exploited.
     
  8. lifelovefun

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    I hate all government. Anything that limits people in anyway should go away.
     
  9. Barrus

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    Communism, at least true communisme has not much to do with a government, the government would only be there through the socialist stage untill we become true enlightened communist, without a government and enough for everything to insure that your desires can be fllfilled.
    i myself am an idealist marxist, but I know that would not work with modern day people, these should first needed to be re-educated.
    In reality i am a centralist liberal, especially with the human rights, I however do mean a European centralist liberal, because in the US that would sooner mean that I m a left wing socialist.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Re-educated? So they should all be forcibly put in re-education camps, ay, until they conform to.....???

    Who will set the standard for what exactly "re-educated" is if there is no tyrannical government to keep people in line?

    There is no utopian form of communism.... never has and never will be.
     
  11. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Communism, like democracy, has never reached it's pure form.

    Human weakness creeps into the idealogy and weakens it over time.

    Both look good on paper though.


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  12. Barrus

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    In reality, no. The utopian version however can be found in, for example, Das Kommunistisch Manifest.
     
  13. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Yes, it exists in theory-- the dictatorship of the proletariat is supposed to dissolve into the masses it has organized. Basically, the workers set the foundation and then let things develop organically from there.

    Pure communism would mean that people worked for the good of the whole without being required to, or forced to under threat of being shot, ostracized, or of being unable to afford the basic necessities of their survival. But honestly, people are probably far too irresponsible and lazy to ever make it work.

    Then again, that could also be only because they've never really wanted control over their lives, and prefer to be controlled. I mean, what's easier?-- Actually making a difference, or blaming some politician for everything that goes wrong? Getting a decent education by working really hard or saying that it's impossible to get anywhere without being rich in the first place??

    Honestly, as much as the bourgeoisie has contempt for proletariat, the proletariat time and time again has proven itself unfit or unwilling to actually claim more rights for itself. The reason is because decisions are much easier to criticize when they are out of our hands... and most people like that feeling of helplessness. They need it... because if things were ever in their hands, they wouldn't know what the hell to do. How many people who actually whine about all the shit that Bush is doing actually want to be President? Or have actually had a single idea about what we should be doing, and not about what we shouldn't be?

    Most people simply do not have the energy to overthrow a government, organize a revolution, or form their own movement. In fact, they barely have enough to make it through a day at work. Fucking hell, most people nowadays barely even read books!!! If you can't even read a goddam book because you're too drained and depressed by your meager existence, then how in the hell are you going to do anything about the world you're living in?

    If people want things to change, it's going to take a lot of work... but the fact is, change isn't important to Americans, because all in all, life is actually quite comfortable. It's pathetic, but it's comfortable.
     
  14. xexon

    xexon Destroyer Of Worlds

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    Democracy doesn't have an auto pilot.

    Like a nuclear reactor, it requires constant monitoring. The consequences of not doing so are evident everywhere we turn now. We've been lax in our responsibilities as citizens, and now we're going to pay the price for our laziness.



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  15. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Democracy is not what we have. If we had a democracy, everyone in the entire country would vote in a referendum every time someone wanted to pass a bill... and everything would be so slow that nothing would happen.

    In reality, the people have very little influence over what happens, and are kept in the dark about a lot of it. The basic idea behind this is that the average person is probably not smart enough to know how to run a country, and isn't connected enough to the world of big business (America is more a business than anything else) to be able to keep America at the top of the heap.
     
  16. YankNBurn

    YankNBurn Owner

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    It does not matter what you wish to call a goverment anytime you assign a person to act as a representive power over a group you take a high risk that the assigned person will abuse the authority. They may not set out to do so but the temptation is always pushing at them. Others that want something offering a little more to sway things thier direction ect ect.

    Most parties have grand ideas but those ideas get destroyed by greed and power!
     

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