Is this going to last forever? Please help me out

Ok so here's my deal. I started smoking herb in april '06, and recently this summer I started to try hallucinogenics. At the moment I can't smoke herb, because of a probation type thing I'm in for a few more months.

However, this summer, In mostly July, I started to fuck around with a lot of shit. The first thing I tried was 2-CE, back in April of this year. No long term effects after a few months (I hadn't tried any other psychodelics).

Then, in June I did shrooms for the first time. I had an amazing trip and it was one of the best experiences I've ever had. No regrets, no bad lasting effects.

Then came the "evil", as I'd like to call it. I started to experiment with LSD. From what I recall, I took a decent amount of doses, I'm going to say 15 at a MAXIMUM from the end of June to the end of July. During that time I also tried 2C-I twice (not strong, no lasting effects).

However, my problem is, for the last 3 weeks or so, I've been feeling extremely strange. My first impression was, "Oh shit, I fucked my brain up for all that acid." Note: I didn't have any bad trips, except for one time where during a trip I freaked out for about 15 mintes, but then everything was ok. So anyways, I haven't done acid for over a month and a couple of weeks, I believe.

I've been hallucigen-free for that amount of time. However, these are the effects I'm experiencing every day (some worse than others).

When I look in the sky I see tiny white bubbles floating around, only when it is day and bright outside. I persuaded myself to think that was with something with my vision, and not my mind, because I only see this in the extremely bright sky, so I'm not too worried.

The second thing I'm feeling is a weird state of mind. My sense of reality is altered, but not very extremely. I don't feel like I'm going crazy, I just feel like everything is a bit weird, almost dreamlike, but just a TAD. I basically just feel tripped out for random periods of time.

The third thing, probably the most noticeable, is a very odd shadowy glow that I see. When I look around a room, and look at objects, they have a wierd, dark, shadow like tint to them. It is very subtle, but noticeable.

I've talked to friend about this, and I've heard that because of the doses I took in such a short period of time (that month), acid residue in my body is slowly going away, causing me to feel tripped out sometimes.

I don't feel like I'm going crazy, I just have some anxiety that these things will never go away. I need some good advice from a knowledgable person in this area.

Thanks for the help.

 

the acid is all out of your system.. you just gots the HPPD, google it. you'll be fine in a few months if you dont do hallucinogens, unless you enjoy constant visuals and keep up the pace =P

 

^ What he said. I have "visuals" to some extent all the time. I think some of it is from pot actually. I just see lots of flecks and splotches on white walls and stuff. At night I get a lot of trails, although everyone does to some extent naturally. No big deal really. I suppose I always "feel weird" as far as my mental state, psychology, etc. goes, so, no change there It will go away if you don't trip for a while and don't hit the weed too hard.

 

if you want it to stop, best cure is to lay off the drugs for awhile and it will eventually wear off. this condition is common but not well known or else the anti-drug lobby would've taken it and run with it.

 

yeah HPPD is prob what it is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hallucinogen_persisting_perception_disorder

 

Zencer, the little white bubbles against the
screen of the atmosphere, the haze
surrounding certain objects, and the altered
sober state of mind are not going to go
away.
Welcome to the metaphysical world, it only
gets more detailed from here on out.

 

First of all acid defintaly dosent fuck up your brain. You defintaly dont have hppd. Any really powerfull experience will stick with you.

 

I've thought for the past 3 or 4 years now that this
hppd bullshit is just a weak attempt to try and
explain how a person feels after ingesting a chemical
substance of which science barley understands
in the first place. -

 

Yea, I would have to second that
And something you may notice about the little white bubbles is that they come with pretty lights whenever your somewhere that is lit by the sun. The sky is where tehses apear most, but if your in a room filled with sunlight you can see them all over. Or at least I can, you described them exactly as I would though. Ive had these since the first time I ever tripped, theyre really rather nice sometimes. I would chill for a little while, you definetly don't want it to get tooo bad, but you should be fine. Ive had the same things you descrie since the first time I ever tripped

 

sounds like very mild HPPD, a lot of people have it, dont feel bad, I got it too, mine really bites, yours doesn't sound that bad. to make it go away you need to quit all drugs, including the ones you dont normaly think of like caffeine. and it may go away in a few years. somtimes it takes a few weeks, or a few months, but it seems more often than not you're stuck with it for a while. good luck, light and love, dont get lost.

 

yeah man, you have a very mild case of hppd - I have it too. I've done acid 10 times and this only started last november, the last time I took acid. For me, I smoked WAY too much weed while coming into the peak by accident b/c someone I was with freaked out. The patterns became all scrambled and these effects never ended. I needed antipsychotics to sleep. I've been struggling with it for like 9 months, but I'm fuckin stupid cuz every time it started truly going away I drank or smoked weed, but that caused it to come back. So the only way to truly get rid of it is to ignore any alterations in your perceptions and quit everything for a while. I finally decided to truly stop everything a couple weeks ago and it's gone away considerably. Every case and every person is different, so good luck man, hppd really sucks. You dont seem too bad though.

 

It's very odd, some parts of the day I feel terrible and it really is affecting me, where I feel like I'm in a dreamlike state, and just not myself. Other times, like right now, I feel almost normal. I'm hoping this will fade away. I'm not going to drink, smoke weed, drink soda with caffeine, or do any other drugs until this shit stops... do you guys think I'll be fine if I stick to this plan?

 

You'll be fine man. Just don't worry about it. It's probably more in your head than anything else. The more you think about it, the more fucked up you'll feel. The less you think about it, the more you will focus on good stuff and never notice visuals or anything else.

 

ohhh so this is what's happening....

hahahaha... kinda funny I didnt make the connection, I often find myself staring at how "different" things look for me now and I sometimes get confused and overwhelmed by it because I focus too much on it while Im supposed to be doing other random stuff...
It has defitinely made me be even more distracted.. or well not, just my attention is directed somwhere else and not everybody can see what is that I stare in space... so I get kinda the lost gaze, but is happy. I just mess up more doing normal everyday life things, but maybe it was because I didnt know what was that was going on... I was all like what's wrong with my eyes.. hahaha, but I like this wrong :tongue:
what a load of ramble... I should go to sleep.
Goodnight fellow hipforumers. Have trippy dreams

 

Hey man
I haven't tried any drugs yet but I see those white bubbles all the time. They move when your eye moves and try to run away when you stare at them. Sometimes they're connected in lines. Theyre not white to me though, more greyish. Other people who I've spoken to see them too. Its just the eyes. So you don't need to worry about that. As for the other 2 parts, dunno eh, good luck.

 

Then to be fair mate you're not in the best position to impart judgement on a condition

I know of the little grey things that follow your eye around - they look kind of like cells under a microscope or something right? I think everyone has them and yes they are real, not illusions.

I can't say white bubbles really fits the description for me, but when I look at the sky on a really sunny day, I'll sometimes see thousands upon thousands of incredibly faint squggling neon wormlike things, moving all over the place - like, everywhere I look. Very colourful but very faint too, barely noticable unless I look out for them.

 

I dont get cells or bubbles, more amoebas and ripples like the surface of a puddle in a rainstorm.

A big part of how bad your HPPD affects you you is how much you think about it, if you're constantly fretting about your "perma-fry" it will only get worse, but if you put thoughts of it on the back burner it really helps a lot, well with visuals that is, doesnt seem to help when you get knocked over by a DP wave or somthing.

HPPD visuals arent that bad, be gklad you arent experiancing any heavy dr or dp, which can totaly destroy your will.

how are all you HPPDers? I feel terrible got too much mayhem in my head to sleep, can anyone spare a hug?

 

Why would you like that to stop?
Its so beautifull! Now they are white and sometimes connected with lines, but later if you go through serious hits of LSD they will become colorfull and those lines that you are talking about, they start forming patterns in rainbow colors. They are actualy the paths that those flares are moving along. It looks like a different dimesion (and it is), so why limiting yourself on only one boring dimesion where stupid human laws and time are spoiling all the fun and killing the love!

Don't be scared, it is there for some reason and it is beautifull!!

Maybe I sound like crazy? I don't care, I am so happy and love you all so you can think whatever you want!

 

Would you consider looking at the sky and always seeing it tinted with rainbow colors HPPD or simply noticing very slight colors that I wouldn't before?


Like right now I look up at the sky, and its not just blue, its blue thats rainbow tinted with rays of light shooting through from behind the cloud. It used to just be blue

 

I get that shit all the time too man. Its nothing to worry about. The best advice I can give (this is what I did).

I have tripped more than most of the trippers I know in this area. in the last year I have done 2c-i twice 2c-e once DOC 4 times MDMA 1 time LSD 3 times and I cant even begin to fathom how much weed I have smoked.

The symptoms you described almost match mine perfectly. If you quit trippin for a couple of months and lay off the weed for a while. That doesnt mean quit smoking just dont smoke EVERY day. and it should go away. I just recently started to feel "normal" again.

Anyways best of luck man