your life never happened.

Discussion in 'Mind Games' started by daveyjones1, Aug 14, 2007.

  1. daveyjones1

    daveyjones1 Member

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    but there is a fork. one with an infinite number of prongs. and that is only if you make it there.
    the universe is but a flicker of a thought that may or may not take hold in the endless sea of our collective conscience.
     
  2. themnax

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    all of us. we're only imagining we're different people. we're all really just one person. and that one is thoroughly nuttier then, well even fruit cakes don't come close.

    =^^=
    .../\...
     
  3. myself

    myself just me

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    Right. Life is a dream.
     
  4. daveyjones1

    daveyjones1 Member

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    exactly.
     
  5. Morganna

    Morganna Member

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    In that case, I want to tell a certain part of me to quit snitching on a couple other parts of me.
     
  6. daveyjones1

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    your subconscious self won't allow you to acknowledge anything other than your conscious self.
    that is, unless you make a strong effort to. but then you may experience what i call psychic death, the temporary disconnective state in which you lose all foresight and sense of being. like a mental hangover with no sense of what taoism calls "isness" (or am i thinking of some other existentialist idea?). our minds have limits, but overcoming them is what life is about, right? the so-called human experience?
     
  7. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    Im gonna start quoting you on this :)
     
  8. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    Amen to that!
     
  9. Autentique

    Autentique wonderfabulastic

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    and yes :)
     
  10. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I imagine serial killers think just this way. Thus their actions have no consequence, the lives of those they killed are just part of their personal dream. Politicians use this mentality to seek more power and control over others.

    Time to wake up youngsters. Life is a limited period of time we each have been granted on this earth to make something of ourselves or others, not something to shirk or try to imagine away.
     
  11. daveyjones1

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    serial killers have it wrong - life is not their dream, it is our dream. and don't let that imply that we are sleeping. we are waiting... the one point where the realization of our linked minds becomes completely clear. we are one. eventially, even serial killers will see the pointlessness of causing death.

    @autentique: please do!

    and gardener, though life is short, every moment lasts forever. when you have the experience known as death, the moments of all humanity will echo through you. :)
     
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    thanks, descartes, for coming up with this idea centuries ago...he called it solipsism.
     
  13. daveyjones1

    daveyjones1 Member

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    damn, really? i haven't read a lot of descartes theories... was it the same idea i described?
     
  14. Pleiadian Dreams

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    DJ said "our minds have limits, but overcoming them is what life is about, right? the so-called human experience?"

    Monkey Mind is limited but is a part of unlimited MIND - what I like to call "The Soup". The storehouse of everything that has ever been, is or will be that we all share for our eternal experiences. It's bigger than huge - it boggles Monkey Mind which is a good thing :)
     
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    I used to be judgemental about things like serial killers until I was yanked out the top of my head in meditation and shown the immenseness of All That Is and how perfectly the tapestry weaves. There are no accidents. We just need to wake up to what we are doing to create the life we are seeing. If you see serial killers, it has to be a part of you or you couldn't see it. It would be totally out of your reality. So when we heal that sick and tortured part of ourselves that energy flows out into the Whole and helps others to wake up. Source unconditionally loves everyone equally. Humans practice "conditional love" being separated from Source.
     
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    If a person can only be experianced and not experiance, then wouldnt it be impossible to be experianced since ur statement dictates that no one can experiance? If no one can experiance then it would be impossible for you to be experianced since no one can experiance you. Therefore your idea is a paradox.
     
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    I think DJ has the myth mixed up with the myth maker. We totally experience our creations. The Uni-verse is a boomerang. The only problem is that we started to identify with the puppet and forgot we are the puppeteer.
     
  18. daveyjones1

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    @cixelsyd: a paradox? you have mistaken my use of the pronoun 'you'. or maybe i wasn't addressing you. maybe i'm in your head. or you're in mine. or i'm in ours. or we're in ours... if it made sense, nothing would make sense anymore. i had a small existential breakdown last weekend. now i only focus on the now and the isness of the world. we might all be one. or maybe not. i'd just like to enjoy a cup of tea. :)
    in case you haven't noticed, my theory has changed about three times in this thread... hah.
     
  19. WeDon'tFightFair.

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    Oh man why the hell did I decide to read this thread?
    *has a mental breakdown*
     
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    Yes, the theory you describe is certainly solipsism. Descartes himself admitted the impracticality of living in accordance with said theory, however.

    Personally, whether or not everything I experience is a manifestation of my psyche seems to have little bearing on the way I live.

    For solipsism to be true, you(the consciousness) must know, or be able to know, everything that has ever been known.

    Solipsism seems to be closely connected with psychologist Carl Jung's theory of the collective unconscious. This states that everything that has ever been known by the human race is present in contemporary man, on an unconscious level. This also helps explain phenomena such as Newton's and Liebniz's simultaneous discovery of calculus.

    I would explain my disbelief of solipsism, but I am drunk and cannot think coherently.
    The gist is that a) an individual is defined by the world around him. b) the understanding of some individuals are completely limited by genetics.
    c) the entirety of creation points to the opposite of solipsism. Why do we have sex? Why would our unconscious place such importance(expressed through pleasure) on sex? The act of fornicating with another part of one's own mind seems devoid of meaning.

    Do you honestly think there is some malicious force conspiring against us?
     

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