guitar scales

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  1. Juggalo4ever

    Juggalo4ever KingoftheChubbyGirls

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    One thing you should know that doesn't really matter is that you can't have two of the same notes in a scale. for example the C# scale it goes
    -C#/D#/E#/F#/G#/A#/B#- technicaly -C#/D#/F/F#/G#/A#/C- would also be correct since E# is F and B# is C they letters in the scale must go in order (abcdefg, cdefgab, ect). The only reason I have come to for this rule is it's just to make it more confusing for everyone. If I were you I'd just get the chronological scale (A/A#/B/C/C#/D/D#/E/F/F#/G/G#/A) down then the rest will be easier to understand.
     
  2. JanaXGIRL

    JanaXGIRL Senior Member

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    I'm starting to understand.. :) so thanks a lot! ;)
     
  3. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    This is the stuff off of the top of my head so I'll re post any thing else I get when I found my book.

    Major Chord:
    Root 3rd 5th

    Minor Chord (minoring the root would change the chord and you can't minor 5th's so you minor the third:

    Root 3rd (Minored) 5th

    Power Chord:
    Root 5th

    Those are the backbones of basic chords. If you're having trouble with this try this. To make A Major take a A Major Scale (which is essentially F# Minor):
    A B C# D E F# G# A
    ^---^-----^---------^
    Root - 3rd ----- 5th --------- Root or Octave

    So an A Major Scale is made up of A C# and F#.

    E|--0-------5------------------
    B|--2-------5------------------
    G|--2-------6------------------
    D|--2---or--7--power chord-7--
    A|--0-------7---------------7--
    E|--0-------5---------------5--

    The first is a beginner chord that you usually learn first the second is a bar chord. The reason bar chords ar nice is because you keep the same hand position and can play anywhere on the fret board. Unless you're playing a bar chord on a different string. The third is a power chord and though becoming more popular, power chords really aren't what you want to use.
     
  4. Hari

    Hari Art thou Art

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    The pentatonic scale is the coolest scale because it has only five notes, it can be visualized more easy, and this is why some call it the blues scale.(then you can focus on listening and feeling the tones and phrases)

    Whatever key I'm in, I'm visualising the pentatonic scale. Honestly I can teach this scale to a kid of seven and in one day he can master it.
     
  5. InTheFlesh

    InTheFlesh Member

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    Learning the pentatonic scales really helped me out with making melodies.
     
  6. Peace

    Peace In complete harmony.

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    I like playing a Ab Major in Aelion mode. Arpegioes are fun too. You can get some groovy sounds from a D Major arpegio.

    Here's somehting I did with the Ab in aleion mode. I'm writing it in tabs but if you play it once thorugh you should be able to figure out the note length. It sounds much better fast though.


    D|--------------13-15-13---13-15-13-------|--------------13-15-13---13-15-13---15-13-|

    A|--------13-15----------------------15-13-|--------13-15----------------------15-------|

    E|--13-15-----------------------------------|--13-15--------------------------------------|

    Use it whenever you want if you wish to. I'll post another little piece in Ab aelion in a bit. The second one sounds nothing like the first. the second piece that I'll post sounds more on the minor side and almost sadish soundy rather than the happy sounding of the first onel.
     
  7. Hari

    Hari Art thou Art

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    I know how to post pictures in very style of website except here..anyone show me and we can exchange sketches and charts,,,I have a book load of those...

    Yet think of the pentatonic scale as the foundation,,,,add two more notes in the right place, and you have both major and minor relative scales
    within a movable framework.
     
  8. Black Sabbath

    Black Sabbath Member

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    hey man,
    i just recommend u get lessons, it may cost u, but hell its worth it.
     
  9. Hari

    Hari Art thou Art

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    What kind of lessons you mean?
     
  10. SelfControl

    SelfControl Boned.

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    I learned scales as numbers of semi-tones (frets) relative to the tonic. For example, a major scale C-to-C can be represented as 0 2 4 5 7 9 11 12, which is C D E F G A B C. A relative minor, A-to-A, represented as 0 2 3 5 7 8 10 12. Try just working up these frets on an open string to hear the effect. This is probably easier to do for guitar than conventional notation, but requires some quick math skills. Once I got the hang of it it enabled me to learn new scales and modes quite quickly.

    With this in mind, if you get bored with conventional scales, I picked these up from my old jazz tutor:

    Harmonic minor (stereotypical Arabian scale)
    0 2 3 5 7 8 11 12

    Inverse harmonic minor (I made this up, it's basically the same intervals of tones and semitones as the above, but in reverse order.)
    0 2 4 5 7 8 11 12

    Melodic jazz minor
    0 2 3 5 7 9 11 12

    Stravinsky/enigmatic scale
    0 1 4 6 7 10 11 12

    Octatonic (found on "Just" by Radiohead)
    0 2 3 5 6 8 9 11 12
    or
    0 1 3 4 6 7 9 10 12

    These can be used to build chords and music in the same way that you would with major scales, by substituting notes and intervals.

    You really don't need to know any of this, though.
     
  11. Black Sabbath

    Black Sabbath Member

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    G MINOR PENTATONIC PATTERN (DIAGRAM OF GUITAR)
    This is only the base of the g minor pentatonic, there a many variations.
    This is played in G (if you dont already know, that is 3rd Fret)
    |--O-|-----|-----|---O--|------|------||E
    |----|-O---|-----|---O--|------|------||a
    |----|-O---|-----|---O--|------|------||d
    |----|-O---|-----|---O--|------|------||g Guitar head ->
    |-O--|-----|-----|---O--|------|------||b
    |-O--|-----|-----|---O--|------|------||e

    Dam, this is dodgey, tho i hope it helps ;)
     
  12. MusicMan19

    MusicMan19 Music Elitist

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    If your computer isn't too slow and has enough memory on it, you can download the Guitarpro program. It's got a scale finder on it.

    www.guitar-pro.com

    You can download it there, and then it's just a matter of taking a few minutes to find the option. It's got about as many scales as you could ever hope to find. It's pretty killer. It's free, although they have a box that opens when you're playing the tab about whether you want to buy the product, but you get pretty used to just clicking it off.
     
  13. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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