New OBL Tape: Iraq, Democratic Control: http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2007/09/new-obl-tape-ir.html So I just read excerpts from the transcript of the newest tape which is alleged to be from Osama bin Laden. "OBL" resorts to a lot of what might be considered "Left wing" or "Democrat" talking points by those who call themselves Republicans. In his statement, "OBL" mentions Noam Chomsky and even brings up global warming. Now why would bin Laden care about global warming, let alone mention it in his speech? Does this not seem more than a little silly to you? Already on the CBS message boards we have people who identify themselves no doubt as Republicans, saying things such as: "I always knew liberals were the enemy within. Now we all have proof!" "Wow Democrats! You finally have someone on your side that thinks like you do! How great it must feel to know that you guys want the same things as Bin Laden!! "If I had read his comments without knowing the source, I would have sworn they were from one of the Democrat candidates. Isn't it sad that the Democrat party and Al Quaeda have so many beliefs in common? "I wonder if he will appear at the next democrat debate? he's a shoe in for vp if hillary takes the nomination. he's straight down the democratic party line!" These are exactly the types of responses those who released this video (not al-Qaeda) want. These are basically neocon talk-radio talking points that wouldn't sound out of place coming from Michael Savage or Glenn Beck. It will certainly be interesting to hear the neocon talking heads' response to this transcript, and if I am right, it will be used not only to marginalize liberals and Democrats, but anyone who is against this ongoing agenda, as siding with al-CIA-DUH. All one has to do is read the Military Commissions Act to see that any American citizen can now be deemed an "enemy combatant" for whatever reason seen fit by our loving government. You can be sure that after the next false flag event, we will see people having this label thrown on them and jailed simply for dissenting against the actions that will follow in the wake of such an attack. The attack on Iran is nearing, and those who are behind this war feel the need to quash any dissent that might arise because of it, especially if an invasion coincides with another 9/11-style false flag attack. There is no better way to get the public (even if it is only a fraction) to ago along with this than to marginalize those who speak out against the government's actions as being "al-Qaeda sympathizers." The rhetoric heard here is almost the same rhetoric we heard coming from OBL on the tape that was conveniently released just days before the '04 elections, which no doubt played a role in getting Bush re-elected (if the election wasn't rigged altogether). We know that several other of these "al-Qaeda" (al-CIA-DUH) tapes have been proven to be fake or doctored, so why should we believe this one to be real, especially when there are already anomalies in the video capture from the new video that have generated suspicions as to if it's even really Osama? Those who really have their facts together understand that Osama bin Laden is nothing more than a contrived boogeyman of western intelligence, who was trained and funded by the US government, and that the role he plays in global terrorism is minimal at best. The US has had numerous opportunites to catch bin Laden, both before and after 9/11, and they haven't. This isn't simply because of incompetence, which is what they want you to believe. It is my belief that if bin Laden isn't already dead, he is being protected by people with connections to western intelligence, be it the CIA, MI6, Mossad or Pakistani ISI. Nobody stands more to gain from the release of these tapes than those pulling the strings of the president and pushing this agenda over in the Middle East (and the tyrannical agenda here at home). The fact that they (this includes the complicit media) are taking advantage of the six-year anniversary of the 9/11 attacks -- an atrocity they themselves carried out -- to exploit the emotions of the American people, shows you just how twisted they are.
Yes and over at Infowars there are people making the types of responses they have been conditioned to make by Alex "bone shattering mega attacks" Jones. Comments like yours. So? Actually if you read it you will find it doesn't say that, but I understand your need to lie constantly. Yeah like there's no dissent in the United States right now. Nobody anywhere is opposing war on Iraq or Iran because they are terrified of the Military Commissions Act. BOLLOCKS. The definition of "proven" is not "Alex Jones says so". Except he wasn't. We've been through this before, you've never been able to back it up. You just keep repeating it because Alex Jones tells you to. So he is a terrorist? This is typical Rat analysis. Osama bin Laden is, at the same time, a fictional boogeyman, a real terrorist, alive, dead (yet Bush doesn't want to claim credit?), working for the CIA, and in hiding under CIA protection (yet the CIA needs to create fakes for his appearances). The point is there is no coherent story for who or what OBL is. The only point that matter is that everything is a conspiracy, and Rat doesn't need evidence or even a coherent argument to prove it. Alex Jones says so, that's all you need to know.
I don't think most people listen to what you have to say, Pepik. All you do is repeat the establishment GOP choruslines over and over, that are churned out weekly by the big neocon publications. Since you cannot refute the facts, you simply deny what's reality. And why do you keep mentioning Alex Jones? The guy is probably a fed just like you.
That's pepiks job.He never fails to show up to refute.Probably gets the big bucks for it.Just went thru his posts--if he's not on the governments payroll,he should be.
Oh come on Rat if you weren't Alex Jones little messenger boy why would you spend so much time copying and pasting articles from prisonplanet and infowars? You're his good little helper. Its not the GOP chorus line that Al Queda exists. It happens to be the viewpoint of most of the sane world. Please let me know when you get some facts Rat, facts you can actually back up and explain. You know, not stuff like "the Fed is private", things you don't understand and can't explain but repeat anyway because you've been told to.
Pepik, I am not going to argue with you because you are a moron. But I do challenge you to find one PP or Infowars article I've "cut and pasted" in recent months in this forum. I might have linked to one of those sites a couple of times, but I'm sure no more than you link to your neocon-neolib CIA propaganda.
Now they are saying the tape was written and orchestrated by a Californian ex Israeli Mossad agent, heavy metal fan, turned islamic fundamentalist...hard to follow that evolution but I think that's what this article is saying. http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/090907Pearlman.htm
Hey Pepik if Osama isn't a boogeyman just what is he? Our government doesn't think he's worth apprehending but they love to bring him up when it suits their purposes. Just like your mom always did with the boogeyman to keep you inline when you were little.
OBL being used for a political disinformation campaign? That would never happen, no never, well hardly ever, ok, ok, probably might, a shucks you caught us again! arty:
Do the democrats have an excuse ready for when after Bush leaves office and the next al-Qaeda threat is realeased? I'm guessing it will go something like..... "The neo-cons behind bin Laden have released another terrorist threat in hoping to regain control of the White House". How does that sound?
Here's how it lays out for me---conservatives killed a president,his brother that was running for the same office,the main and the most influential civil rights leader and who knows how many others.It's really very simple--the conservatives with BIG power will kill,steal,lie,break the unions,experiment on people without their knowledge,pervert the constitution,torture and enact a whole litany of laws to benefit the super -rich.They are immoral ,thieving bastards that care not a bit for us regular people.-------(Mrs bush regarding the poor suckers stuck in the astrodome=Well,this is working out quite well for them--they're poor anyway.)The quote might be a word or two off,but that's the gist of it.So,anyone that says they are conservative gets ZERO FUCKIN" RESPECT FROM ME.In fact willfull ignorance only goes so far with me--it then becomes stupidity.So,basically--yeah--they could be behind it.
But what difference is there between Democrats and Republicans? Do you honestly think Hillary Clinton is any different from Bush? Of course not, since they all answer to the same people at the top. These people all sell you lies, the public falls for them, and the agenda never changes despite all the promises that are made when they are looking for that vote. It doesn't matter which party is in control, and that's why nothing changed when the Democrats took control over the House and Senate. Both wings belong to the same bird. They are all complicit, but the public falls for the scam because they still buy into the rhetoric, despite being lied to time and time again. As long as people continue to blame political parties and fall for the sham which is "politics" and "democracy," people are going to continue to be lead like sheep into the next pasture. That is exactly where we are headed, and Hillary or Obama are not going to save you either. The Democrats are no less for the current situation both here and abroad than the current administration, though they will play the part to mislead the gullible people who will vote them in, thinking they're going to see "change."
Probably true enough.To keep their jobs with all the perks is what any of them care about.Although I don't think the Democrats harm the working people nearly as much as the conservatives--but who knows ?Things are not getting much better --they are getting MUCH, MUCH worse.Short term,I would much rather have the dems in control.Long term,we're probably fucked anyway.
