belief in god a form of schizophrenia

How could you act like him if you didn't know who he was?

You said that Jesus never talked about hell in scripture, so I gave you scriptures where he did.

"Unless you become like little children"..... little children have faith. They have faith that their parents are going to tuck them in at night, pick them up from school the next day, etc. They don't question it. Sure, they question everything else such as, "why is the sky blue", yet they don't question their parents love for them. Jesus said we must be this way in order to enter into his kingdom. Their is nothing more amazing in this world then the way your child has complete faith in you. This is the kind of faith Christ spoke of.

 

For the record.. Im crazy alright..
but nothing to do with JC or his teachings heh.

 

ok ill be the first here to give a different approach at the thread's topic. ill use brock's reply to work aorund but someitme ill jsut be refering to the dot point on the first post.

I think this is missing the point. Being 'watched over' and being 'watched' are still the same thing, except the former is said in a positive tone, it is being accepted and embraced, whereas the latter as a negative tone to it, and is not wanted or desired, it is an invasion of privacy.

The subjective terminology you use doesnt change the objective essence of having something or someone observing your actions.

The point here has been changed. Do you think people with schizophrenia think of the people as being 'imaginary? no, they are very real to people with schizophrenia. someone schiz would say 'i dont talk to imaginary people so this point doesnt apply for me' too.

I dont see how this is tricky. Beleivers beleive they have a purpose. non beleivers do not believe they have a purpose. People with schizophrenia believe they have a pupose. (generalisation there)

Non beleivers do not believe they have a purpose.

The cross, a figure of jesus, and many other icons used by christians are inanimate objects with special purposes.

Except almsot all objects have some 'purpose' in their use, and i dont even see how this applies for schizophrenics. so this is not really a valid one

again, this doesnt really apply directly to schizophrenics.
But the sign or symbolism behind something is determined subjectively unless the author directly gives his meaning. even then, who has the correct interpretation of his words? this again is mixing up subjective reasoning with objective truths (but on a lower and less significant level than the first point), though its sorta an irrelevant point so this isnt that valid either.

this isnt really the beleif of any religion and is only really one aspect of 'paranoia' that schizophrenics get. so its too narrow a point an aspect of schizophrenia to be counted i guess.

However, god kills lots of people in the OT for doing bad things, and premotes capital punishment so id expect it to be part of some beleifs despite the fact that it never really is a followed rule. since everyone is going to die anyway lol

dirty is jsut the term used in the point, it is not making a reference ot the puritan thinkning (i dont beleive so anyway). Perplace the word with.. shameful? wouldnt you feel shameful if you rejected your god?

And i dont see how putting god in quotations makes a difference to anything except make the point that the author of the line does not beleive in god, or in teh god referred to in the point.

Anyway there actually are studies going on at the moment on the neurological basis of religion, theyve coined it 'neurotheology'. this could lead to an actual link between schizophrenia and religious beleive, although at the moment, i dont think anything can be said on teh issue.

but you also cant really dispute that there is no link at all. despite that we dont beleive there to be.


just remember, a schizophrenic person actually beleives in their world as much as we all beleive in our beleifs, moreso in fact. That is the very essence of schizophrenia. If they thought it was imaginary, they wouldnt be schizophrenic. A schizophrenic - paranoia actually is incredibly similar to a fundie. but anyway, remember that if a schizophrenic sees untruth in their imagined realities, then they are not actually schizophrenic, they jsut have psychosis (which is still very serious of course!)

 

Im working on a neurological explanation for agnosticism and atheism.

I will give it a latin named like 'SchizoAtheism' so it sounds 'important' or like a 'new discovery'.

The belief that objects (like molecules or Genes) are actually intelligent beings.
The belief that animals can morph into other animals
The belief that they they are so 'Omniescient' that anything that is not presented to them for touch and feel - is therefore not existing.
The Belief they are in 'Private' and can not be seen.
The belief that matter is supreme.

I dunno.. anyone want to co-research this with me? post your psychosis

 

This just in, new findings in the study of non believers and people that suffer from schizophrenia. Amazingly they both have a lot in common.

• They both have the ability to walk
• They both have the ability to talk
• They both can eat
• Some ride bikes
• Some drive cars
• Some have brown hair
• Some have blond hair
• Some have red hair
• Some have no hair
• They are both humans

Amazingly these new findings just keep comming. The science community is calling in it's top minds to see all the links between these two. We will keep you posted as we get more similarities. Now back to your viewing pleasure of "Everyone hates Christianity because they have nothing better to do".

 

I have yet to find a single post in these forums where a person actually says they hate christianity. Besides, cynicism will get you nowhere my friend.

 

well brock youd notice my use of the term 'coined' infers the same intention of that sentance.

and in assuming that the folloiwing refers to atheists such as myself,

I dunno what to say about the colour of your shit
(that was a metaphor brock i hope you can understand my complex use of language, its like sarcasm but requires a bit more thinkning)

As opposed to the magical magician lord in the sky ?

(that also requires you to think a little more than the words on teh page brock, please try)

have you been eating a lot of fruit lately brock? or do you jsut have diaroeah?

I think your secret of being a webcam pornstar are seeping out, most of us do have a level of privacy.

Well this assumes that there is something in the universe other than matter? Dark matter? Well to us matter is supreme over dark matter. Energy? Energy is both the source and product of matter. You cannot put them in terms of supremecy. Do you understand this? or are you annoyed that ive tried to explain something to you (when i havnt really explained anything at all no matter what the stance)


And bandit your post is jsut plain stupid. you have tried to be witty but failed. It appears to be an attempt to copy the structure of this thread's observations, but removes the crucial element that makes it in issue and not a truism.

Anyway its good to see Us non beleivers have inherited the positive traits common to schizos and not all thsoe wierd psycho ones.

 

He says it is stupid, the agrees with it. Who is stupid here?

Then you haven't been reading the posts in this forum. Also, in all honesty, it was sarcasim, and I laughed, my wife laughed, gues it got me where I wanted.

 

wow....its amazing how people have no sense of humour.


sad really.


ANYWAY



as regards the child dying thing....all children do go to heaven it is a given because children are completely innocent in birth. they have not been touched by any of the indignance of mankind..

it isn't till they are older ans sociaty has had its way with them do they seek gods breath in common statement and search aimlessly for the difference that sets an old phrasse burning [to borrow a phrase or two]

 

Ummm, I don't live at home with daddy. I live in my own house with my wife and son. Guess your "really big spirit" misled you again.

 

Um that makes you more stupid for saying that.

It is a tool of debating, the 'even if' notion. It was exposing the self-insult of your own intended insult. It was placed in a way that infers that i do not actually agree with it but was making another point as to the stupidity of the response. Is this a new concept to you?

 

Not sure what "insult" you are refering to. I simply gave an example of how easy it is to compare things. Is this a new concept to you?

 

It is to me!!! ME!!! ME!!!

 

you took insult that the thing was inferring that christians are schizophrenics and so you decided to turn it around to link it then to non beleivers to. If someone saw it differently, go ahead, caus otherwise i doubt you would have specifically used 'non beleivers' as the second subejct of the comparison.

It of course is not much of an insulting insult but it would class as an insult in linguistical terms.


Is this a new concept to you?

 

Look at the two factors here, Christians and non-believers. Did you expect me to make a comparrison of fords and chevys? First, there was no insult in the begining, as the poster clearly wrote what he/she felt. Second, I simply cleared up a few things on the issue. It wasn't until after a few unthinking goofballs made a post or two(maybe it wasn't a few, maybe it was just you) that I decided to show how easy it is to make a comparrison. I don't know why you keep trying to come off as an intelectual person here. Your posts are full of first grade thinking and 3rd grade typing. I actualy find it difficult to grasp what it is you are trying to say. I have to read your post a few times to see where you are pulling some of this stuff. Not to mention you always think you know me and tell me what I would or wouldn't say in a situtation. Here ya go, I'll tell you something about yourself, if it wasn't for google.com and your ability to look up what other people think on a subject, you would be compared to say Big Bird running for president. In other words, I feel you debate rather poorly in trying to express other people views. Do me a favor, actualy learn something, study it, and then write down your own thoughts on the subject. Quit trying to probe peoples minds and telling them what they would and wouldn't do. As of right now, everything you say is just blah.