Acid Change

Hello, I already have done shrooms but i didnt do enuff and didnt get a change, im kind of a shy person and dont rlly confront ppl, i wish i could do it, u guys think if i did lsd i would change and be more outgoin, more active, basically better at social aspects? thanks

 

Well, I did a lot of acid this summer. I had some severe problems following the acid, and then 3 weeks of binge drinking.

I've overcome the issues, and I found myself to be caring, respecting, and overall more social. I'm really happy. =]

I suppose it's different for everyone, though.

I'm guessing if you gain insight from LSD, you will appreciate life a lot more, and therefore appreciate the life of others more, causing you to be more social? Just a hypothesis.

 

Depends.

LSD doesn't lay the foundations for social skills, but it does create a permanant lust for heavy mental stimulus, whch makes a lot of the more outgoing activities in life seem far more attractive than they may once have been.

Try a combination of acid and MDMA (not nescessarily at the same time, but why not? )

Pills tought me (once socially inept) that I could go out and do whatever I want, have a fantastic time doing it, be friends with everyone in the world, and nobody will think twice so long as I believe I can do it.

Acid tought me that I can do all of that without drugs, and it's a hell of a lot more rewarding that way too

If I'd never taken pills though I don't think I'd have ever reached that stage. A lot of socially inept people take acid and just end up sitting in their room all day contemplating life and driving themselves crazy over conspiracy theories and bullshit. Getting out there and active is VERY important, to your mental aswell as physical health.

 

Could be different for everyone.

 

were you looking for a change, were you trying for a change? and what makes you think you need a change?

all legitimate question.
drugs don't "MAKE" you change they just give you a helping hand if you are sincere about it.

one of the main themes for me with what i have experienced is that sincerity and acid are lets just say "very close friends"

like after acid i have seen my self analyzing myself, things around me, trying to be superalert of my enviroment.
i am not saying acid made me "aware" exacty...i knew i was neglecting a lot of things in my life and i sincerely(yes sincerely, it's all about sincerity...and more to yourself than others...) wished to sort out things and put myself on a better track of thought, a less destructive one.

then it all breaks down to your values. if you lie to yourself...i'd assume it'd be even easier to lie to others.
but if you are sincere and you remain sincere in all aspects i'd believe saying anything false would be hard if not devastating to such developed fundamentals.

but i am not saying that this change in focus, redefinition of self is a permanant one....we humans are constantly changing second after second so such a constant attitude needs to be reinforced from time to time or needs to be nurtured and kept in a productive enviroment which is completely hypothetical...take what it means for you out of it.
i guess that is why a lot of the older individuals, psychonauts as some call them still trip every once in a while...even they would need to reaffirm their bonds.


***also this is irrelevant to lsd but being shy is just something that either will close you in in due time or open you up, i think if you have a pessemistic antisocial attitude toward change you won't develop as a person thefore you will be stuck in a shy stage, but if you develop more as a person you will gain the ability to approach the "real world" optimistic as social as you want to be...talking to hundreds and hundreds of people doesn't necessarily make you social. Talking to individuals and knowing them as individual and also valuing them as individuals seem a bit more productiv'e. That is why i believe that most leaders of like countries seem a little bit distant a little bit out of tune with what eveyone wants...big social strain that i would not state i'd want to be man enough to be yet.

but here is my point.
drugs aren't going to change you.
you are going to change you.
drugs can assist in changing you quicker for some individuals with open minds....but also in that aspect drugs can hinder weak minded/unprepared(maybe even unmatchable to a certain substance) individuals and plague them for a various duration.
some people have strong(positive...not like strong in the better genetic factor or any of htat) minds and can take any drug.
some people have weak(negativity) minds and doing drugs will only push them further down.
and then some people have unadaptable minds that just are completely disinvolved with drugs.
and trying a drug either unknowingly or ignorantly could figuratively cause psychological damage.....the only comparison i have to this is example is a small comparison..but not a precise one.....Overdose, overestimating your invisible line that if you pass it you may not return. With Lsd in almost all cases and i do believe shrooms in almost all cases by itself cannot cause death(i know....like 3000 sum hits of acid can kill you or something to that extent..and i don't know the downlow on the information for shroom) in realistic cases of use.

but for unsuspecting users suseptible to various brain disorders, chemical imbalances etc doing just the smallest bit of acid i think can cause permanant damage...i guess again i am bringing up common knowledge and you think i am full of shit but i guess all this has to be brought up together atleast from my perspective it does just because anything less would make it less whole and lack a point.

and here is the last point.
drugs aren't for everybody, find out what you are/ what you want to become and decide if you want to risk it and if you do go for it

excessive use of such a drug like lsd isn't embraceable
lucy is a lady that wants you to care and plan out every trip and make it so that you love and learn from every single one.
but just like lucy is a beautiful thing to spend the night with she can be vengeful and hurt you if you try to abuse her just cause you have a convenient access, I am not saying this convicting you or anything...I've done the same and I've learned from it....I've learned with lucy take your time and try to get as much of her that you can handle(that last one i mention just in my case haha)
and binge drinking is possibly one of the most damaging things you can do to a few of your organs that happen to process poison which could lead in woes and stuggle down the road(as well as pissing out razor blade kidney stones from time to time) i think drinking is okay in as long as you don't push it too far. But that is coming from a fellow that has seen both his grandfather and father have operations because of alchoholism.
you seriously lose a lot of you abuse alchohol too much...atleast with lucy if you abuse her you just have mental angst....with alchy you are constantly pissing blood or with some of my older relatives you have to deal with like a fucking catheter every day day in day out and if you've been in a hospital bed for an extened amount of time and tehy drug you up being a male you most likely have experienced one...and they arreee not fun.
I guess in my life I don't have the whole anti-drug thing....or antitobacco thing...all the guys in my family smoked all their lives in and lived until their late 90's. The only thing I have is anti-alchohol...and well drugs overall happen to be uncharted territory and i happen to be an explorer


look at this tirade.
amphetamines strike again.
*edit* i added a whole othe lump of a paragraph in reply to Zencer haaa

 

*sticks a gold star on Entables head* best post I've read in a LONG time.

 

thanks a night of no sleep due to finishing some design project in time for the customer required my intense attention to detail and once i finished my work i was bored so i decided to post on here a bit because i had been wanting to for a while. drugs encourage my already innate intention to join and continue to frequent this board as well as post on things that are relevant to my interests, so i guess today is even example of a tiny thing that i believe may have an impact on my life.....most people don't think so but pretty much communities of like minds even via tha intrawebz seem to be extremely productive in creating a positive, learning, developing, evolving atmosphere for an individual to grow as a person in a specific way. Connecting with many of these communities some of which you can consider you group of friends that are you peers as members to this vast community of like minds. Learning from one another is about the best concept we have developed. But you must discern blindly believing everythign your peers say due to misinformation, misinterpretation and inherent myths. i guess explaining things to the best of your abilities, saying all you have to say is the best you can do...i will leave another example to help make my point that is overall unnecessary in most peoples eyes.
I am one of those individuals that has the ability to speedread, i blaze through books in impressive speed...maybe not compared to other practiced speedreaders...but to most normal readers it seems like an immaculate gift.
when really in essence my form of speed reading is based on my discerning eyes, i have to decide what content to read and what to skip i have to discern what is bullshit and what is content through out the whole read.
and shit yeah there is a lot of filler out there in the literature world.
this example is parallel with my ability to discern ones character and if i am either going to tear apart the bullshit, take it with a grain of salt and agree to disagree, or agree wholeheartedly with the content an individual relays. a lifesized game of poker where you must discern if one's character is a bluff(full of shit) or lucky win they royal straight flush(acceptable content that is at a whole different class than the bull)

in the drug trade specifically psychadelics like lsd the buyer and distrubutor have to have a bond form which in actuality is a two way street
the buyer has to decide if he believes the distributor is legit and he can trust him and still take a risk(trust is risky in all cases)
and the distributor quite inversely needs to judge if this buyer is productive, can push the product well, trustable(the opposite of a snitch), and has the make for a good business partner.

those are just the basics between sizing up indivuals from all the drug oriented things in my life that has influenced me...and that isn't resticted to personal use or local anything...it's opened up to anything that influenced me.

because breaking it down anything that you consume/take into your body is a drug in some way or form.

a question asked what about a baby and well milk and all that? my obvious answer is that a baby is taking in all the nutrients and substance within milk that promote growth(a change in a state of being) of cells and bones as well as furthe development of the brain and skull.
everything a child takes into their body at that young tender age has a place in effecting it growth, it's "social evolution" alongside its peers.
once the childs perspectives are widened further to more complex thoughts of posession ...depending on the child of course...but the most productive ones the more natural born survivors in my opinions claim as much as they can which is an example of another primitive side for us
how do you say possession is a drug?
it's not a literal drug like a consumable substance....it's more like a display of the humans drive for more and more in life....and obtaining more and more creates a sense of pleasure in the individual.
as well as losing such acquired things becomes a moment of sorrow.
that pretty much goes hand in hand with the greed and lust for money.
and at some point people who operate large scale distributions of illegal substances see the substance as dollar bills more than product.
i believe the oil companies around the world happen to be more guilty than that..but that is my selfish american side in me.....anybody who reads this give me a tip on how much most of UK pays for unleaded gasoline by chance, i'd be thankful.

but this social evolution is based on the interactions of the individual and it's surroundings
taking in food everyday is the human beings built in addiction as well as taking in oxygen
not saying that that kind of addiction is negative it's just we base our complete existance on it
just like some people are shy to use public restrooms, urinals...that is a fear of the unknown right...and this fear was developed gradually through the experiences of an individual human being.
i guess for example immoral yet innocent humiliation could cause a plethura of social fears and hindrances.
that's when sincerity and direction kicks in.
most people go through a tough point in life...that divine factor where an individual decides to rise or fall begins to define them and each time the individual falls it becomes harder to rise....some individuals have the capabilities to rise sky high but never were in the best of enviroments....those types of people seem like the ideal candidates for psychedelics like sweet lucy. she embraces the strong willed and helps them find a way.

and that comes to possibly my last point i want to make because my rambling has interrrupted my cigarette addiction for far too long!

my point is that there is almost always a way through a troubling time....and you either blaze through, escape by a hair or stay trapped and advance in self loathing and distrust.

hell i should be an inspirational speaker...and my inspiration to cut this short is something white and orange that may cause cancer ...seeya
the latter is kind of extreme but seems accurate to me.

 

Low level LSD MAY help or oiit may not,. depends o teh choices you make whilst on it and after.

MDMA may be a much better choice if you make the conscious decision to be outgoing. If you go to a pilling club etc. everyone will be friendly which will help.

HOwevre teh danger of relying on drugs to do anythign like that is that you can start to rely onteh drug always.

liek people who can't enjoy themselves or dance at a social gathering without a drink or two etc.

 

haha that was my point.
what i was saying is that if you decide to have a night with lucy, you overall are the deciding factor if you get anything from her or not. In that mindset you are in fact your worst enemy.
I wasn't pushing you to be Dependant to a substance, to be Independent and learn to grow from your experiences rather than sit in denial of change and look towards the past rather than the present and future. Just like you essentially create your own trip on LSD you also...i know this will sound cheesy but you create your own "destiny" as well. It is up to how you see life and interact with your surroundings and peers and what you in fact surround yourself in that will be the deciding factor in the seemingly long yet brief trip we call life. I doubt that anything I really pushed happened to portray being Dependant on a substance rather than being independent with gracious push from lady Lucy on a fateful life changing night.

Here is the basic rules for LSD to change your life.
1. Be willing to be open to thoughts you may think as irrelevant.
2. Make some tough decisions give up on things you feel that end up hindering you in the long run.
3. Trust yourself, which is one of the most important points, trusting oneself will open your mind to possibly being able better discern what matters to you and what doesn't

My counter-thought against my third point is a question possibly like this"What productivity would come out of trusting yourself rather than trusting the world and you peers". A fake what if question I posed against myself to draw out another point that elaborate on what I just said.

Trusting yourself teaches you what you want, rather than what others want, and what options you must deem as bullshit. Being able to discern our wishes and what we want to keep and trash is the inner-struggle of our existance. Logically you can't close every loose thread on an old sweater or cotton t-shirt, and the world happens to be an infinetely larger version of the(i thought to be clever) example I just mentioned.
So we must in fact drudge through bullshit unwillingly at times in our lives when the ideal the prospective future in thought isn't quite in the grasp.
The strength to trust yourself comes to another point. Trusting your convictions, your values, your aim in life as sincerely as you can. The inner truth will keep the outside true to if you don't falter.

Oh now my next counter question to the factor of faltering/failing.
"So if we fail and we have a lapse in inner trust we are essentiall fucked?"]

That is what our valuable experiences that brought us out of the shitter comes in again.
Depending on how long you last you may need to actually reacquaint yourself with Lucy if you are deep in the muck.
If you are able to trust yourself enough and discern that a troubled time is coming you might want to try to use the influence of the amphetamines.
Another example branching from my essay in the Pharm section.
Lucy is priceless while Amphetamines happen to become a powerful tool when not abused. Resisting abuse of amphetamines will increase productivity of the mind by three hundred fold atleast, and it's thought what will that do?
Well for the Dragon ball Z fans that may exist in here I will make a reference to that.
The hyperbolic time chamber on Kami's tower where in this chamber they can cram a years training into one day.
Seem like a good example?
Amphetamines increase productivity over 300 fold
which hold an equivalent with cramming a years training into one year
the productivity is used to mentally condition the mind and quickly re-establish inner values and reevaluate inner conflicts and strive to over come.
Welp I'm done ranting.

"Enlightenment will only show you the way, a path. But the only think that can move you along the path of enlightenment is of all things your own two feet."

I just made up that quote off the top of my head...i may have heard it somewhere but i doutbt it but it eerily gives me a buddhist vibe, not a bad thing though

 

in high school i was a quiet person. i think that i took alot of drugs because of this. i wanted to do as much of everything and anything to change me as much i could possibley change me. i have gotten ridden of my social anxiety. i feel comfortable around people, and i have alot of friends now. tho i cant say if it was the drugs or not, or just growing up, getting over somthing.

certainly i think drugs like lsd and mdma, show you that there is no need to care. lsd showed me alot of things about social status and myself and how people interact in this world. and what iv learnt is amazing and to me it would be silly to be shy around people now after what iv learnt and see things. however my personality isnt exactly overly outgoing. but again, thro lsd iv learnt alot of things, and overly outgoin people are usualy the cunts that nobody likes anyway. so i am pretty comfortable with who i am right now.
and so yes, i think lsd will show you things man. and yes drugs will change you a bit.

i know it was bad for me to take alot of drugs just because i wanted to change myself, but meh. i realise now alot of people go thro alot of fucked up thoghts and issues during those developmental years. and now i dont have any hang-ups or issues at alll.
its just that man, everyone is bought into this world, and each is growing up and learning things from the universe inside there mind. and ultimatly it makes each of us on our own in a way. there is such pathetic communication between people. wait until we can connect our brains together with computers and explore each others minds in a wakefull dreaming state of nirvana. explore every oraphous of each others brain. realise things language wont be able to unless we had about 2million letters in our alphabet. jesus. fuck.

 

this has been such a crazy thread.

 

Lucy blows my mind man. So multittalented. I actually cracked out of my shell before I had tried Lucy, so here is something that will make you shit bricks. Lucy encouraged me to pay attention to the details of the world more.
Not to treat the world as a constant blur but respect everything existing on it. The highways and motorized vehicles bring us away from seeing things in this beautiful and natural way, but for Lucy I sit outside and enjoy nature every day...no lie. But it's not like I wasn't superaware of the conditions of others...that was just another factor in my attention to detail.

My attention to detail pushed me to care about strangers, care for people that I barely even know. You may not think it but just seeing people smiling , positive and ensuring they really do care about you...Seeing such things from strangers has made me see that showing compassion to all you may reach is the most rewarding thing left to do.
I am kinda getting sleepy so sorry if i trailed off...cya guys.

 

^^ peter popper and entables, that really sounds amazing, thanks