Air Car – compressed air motors.

Discussion in 'Alternative Technologies' started by relaxxx, Apr 29, 2007.

  1. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    What is the hold up on this technology? MDI web site doesn't look like it's been updated in three years. If compressed air motors are the read deal, North America needs like 200 Million of them YESTERDAY! Their potential applications reach far beyond vehicle transportation. Compressed air tanks could replace toxic battery cells in renewable energy projects. Instead of your wind turbines and solar panels charging huge battery banks, they can run pumps to compress air tanks that can be then used to power these air motors for producing electricity when needed on days of no wind or sun.

    We need this technology implemented NOW, I need like three of these motors right freakin' NOW!
     
  2. Leopold Plumtree

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    Compressed air is pretty inefficient. Whatever means are used to compress the air would be better put to use more directly.
     
  3. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    Maybe there are problems with the design that are holding them back or maybe they are just safety testing the high pressure air system but I would not exactly call a claim of 150 miles on $2 worth of clean energy inefficient!

    Show me a car that can go 150 miles on a gallon of filthy gas.

    I mean we're talking about free and clean energy here, even if it's half as efficient as what they say it is, it's still way far better than what I've got now!!
     
  4. Leopold Plumtree

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    I seriously doubt any car that can go 150 miles on a $2 charge of air is capable of carrying very much (or at least not for very far). It probably has to be lashed down in a slight breeze, too.

    Compressed air is only as free and clean as the method used to compress it. Where do we get this "free," "clean" energy? Compressed air would only serve to lessen the efficiency of whatever this energy source may be.
     
  5. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    What's your problem anyway? Why are you so negative? Do you like funding wars with every trip to the gas station? It costs me $50 a week to drive myself to work, I'm sick of feeling like a trapped bitch about it. I know where the energy source needs to come from. Why do you think I said you can run compressors off of windmills and solar arrays??

    The world needs more people interested in clean energy, not more negative people addicted to cruel fossil fuels. So tell me something I don't know or go rain somewhere else. This is alternative energy not child psychology.
     
  6. Leopold Plumtree

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    Your post is more diversion than refutation. Citing flaws in a proposed alternative doesn't mean I "like" what we have.


    The major problem is that there isn't enough solar and wind energy capacity to make much of a dent in our overall needs. Also, there are better ways to put it to use than compressing air.


    See, we're not actually talking about alternative energy (compressed air isn't an energy source), we're talking about alternative ways to use energy (that could be applied to alternative sources).
     
  7. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    So far, you haven't talked about ANYTHING !!!!!


    The purpose of this thread is to try and shed some light on these cars, get interested, ask questions, do some research and figure out if these cars are going to become a reality or are they some sort scam or pipe dream.



    Why don't any huge corporations seem interested in developing or investing in this technology?



    Why does the developer seem more interested in selling licenses than producing a prototype that can perform as promised?



    If you plan on making a claim either way, please back up your statement with some facts and intelligent explanations.
     
  8. Leopold Plumtree

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    The problem with compressed air is that it does NOT solve the fundamental problem - the need for alternative energy sources. Sources that meet the needs of hundreds of millions of people. Once you have these sources, they can be used in a number of ways, the compression of air being but one of them, and perhaps not the best one (though it may have a niche).
     
  9. relaxxx

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    Again, this is not a thread about energy SOURCES, please don’t turn it into one. We know how to make clean energy sources I’ve got 3 acres of land on a windy hill that I know could provide all the energy I would ever need, Energy STORAGE is whole other problem, and a big one. Compressed air motors are really about a new method of energy storage. Right now a home owner with solar or wind power has two choices, they can store their extra power in dirty toxic battery cells with a relatively short life cycle or “sell” it to the power company. Battery banks and Grid connect inverters are extremely expensive and problematic semi-solutions. The promise of storing energy in the form of clean air in a tank that will last a lifetime is quite an impressive promise and deserves more than a one line dismissal and subject diversion.
     
  10. Leopold Plumtree

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    It's amazing how quickly "we" becomes "I." :H

    It might be a good solution for you personally, with your three acres of windy land, but if you look again at your first post, you'll see that this thread was originally about a solution that'd work for the entire country.


    We already know how to use energy well enough. Sources are the real issue.

    The motors expend energy (do work), they don't "store" it (that's the job of tanks).
     
  11. relaxxx

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    Give me a break, there's enough potential solar and wind energy to power all of America many times over. This technology already exists if anyone bothers to use it, but America has other priorities doesn't it!? If we had a clean easy portable way of STORING this energy more people just might get excited about using it.

    The American government spends 10 times more money on oil than renewable energy and if you factor in all the extra costs of oil such as the oil wars it's more like 100 times more. For about the same cost as the Iraq war, ever man woman and child in America could own a wind turbine powerful enough to provide all the power requirements in an average American home, that’s all the electricity American homes need 3 times over!!! Not to mention the thousands of jobs this would create.

    Instead, what does America have? Thousands of dead bodies, temporary use of fitly polluting blood tainted oil, a world of enemies and insurmountable debts.

    I hope the developing country of China has figured out the right path to take for its energy. If a population that size become addicted to fossil fuels like Americans, it's game over for the entire human race!!
     
  12. Leopold Plumtree

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    It seems you have political axes to grind. I'm not going to entertain that.
     
  13. relaxxx

    relaxxx Senior Member

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    LOL! Well thank God for that!
     
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    sorry to be the bearer of bad news.....

    china has the single dirtiest power generation network in the world.
     
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    I just posted a thread about MDI's cars. I didn't see this thread. Sorry about that.
     

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