Ok, im sure everyone in here knows me as the kid who comes into the MDMA forums and immediately turns into the poster boy for MDMA neurotoxicity. I know ive repeatedly givin my steadfaast oath to never touch beans again....but alas...im weak... Last Friday, i drank a little under a 5th of sky vodka and was doing some lines of florida yip. So needless to say, i blacked out. Then out of nowhere i start getting the eye jiggles and the stereotypical ecstasy come-up, so i look at my friends and im like "uuuhh yo i feel like im rolling face right now". They look at me disconcerted and respond "dude you just ate 3 beans like 45 minutes ago". So yah i dont remember that, but it happened. I think I may have eaten another one an hour later; it was powder though so it may have been a half, i can't be certain. I had a great time...not the best rolls ive ever eaten but they were legit. I was so twizted anyway it made up for the subpar beans. My worry is this...i had the typical next day afterglow, next day etardedness, terrible tuesday, weepy wed. all that stupid terminology coined by that bitch Oprah during her whole 90's "club kids" calamity. But its been a week exactly and i still feel burnt, and I'm still having a little trouble reading. It takes me a minute to get goin on a paragraph, then i start flying and randomly stop on a word that I already know, for some reason its just like hitting a mental/literary wall. Also, ive noticed some disturbing sexual side effects still +7 days after the roll. I dont feel as into sex and i cant get as hard as easy. Does anyone else with past abuse feel these type of side effects after they crack and roll again. Do you think in a week when my serotonin recharges to baseline that i will be completely back to normal? Keep in mind i haven't rolled of legit beans in about four months. And after this crash experience, no amount of sky vodka will but any bean down my throat EVER again.
All I can tell you is it happened and there is no point on worrying about it. you will be back to normal soon enough.
Drinking too much and then making regrettable mistakes during that lapse is pretty darn stupid but realistically it's the only way to learn; especially when it comes to booze. Praise it be this instead of driving around to prove your increased reflexes from the alcohol and injuring others. I concur that overall you should not worry. You stressed your body/brain more than normal what booze and a higher than prescribed dose. Now, if it was 6-10 doses worth; then I might throw out plausible concern. There's valid research that suggests months could be needed to replenish thy self to prior levels. Although, at what point does a person really notice a full rebalance compared to being just under or over? If you normally take multivitamins and other supplements make sure you actually keep on that pace; perhaps even look into such annoying tasks. And don't slack in your exercise routines! That's all folk.
hahahaha fair point I know ALOT about mdma and the toxicity brotha, but i havent rolled since i ate 9 last year...and i was back to normal, now i feel burnt and sexually inept...i was just wondering if anyone else whos used and more importantly...ABUSED...has had these same side effects after relapse. I know I'll be fine. Im also almost certain at this point that the pills contained MDA as opposed to MDMA due to the the length of the comedown and the lack of warmth and love in the roll replaced with trippy nonstop eye wiggle too fucked up to move type roll. And MDA is alot more toxic than MDMA so it would explain the exaggerated burned out sensation.
Man I fell that way on normal comedowns from smaller doses. The esaiest comedown I've had was on my highest dose so its all really hard to judge. I would just take some 5-HTP and try to rember that it all in your head. Don't worry and forget about it and soon it will be gone.
Myke seriously man, I can't believe you did pills again after you know what they do to ye, psychologically as much as anything going by your past posts. Yeah I have badly abused mdma in the past and yeah I did get similar side effects when I relapsed although from the sound of it not as severe as yourself. It's only natural that you aren't going to be sexually at your best when your bodies trying to recover from the experience and your systems are all depressed, it'll pass. Just remeber that the side effects are probably going to feel worse than they actually are because your brain chemistry is still all messed up for a week or two and everything negative you feel will be exaggerated significantly. I hope you mean it this time when you say "And after this crash experience, no amount of sky vodka will but any bean down my throat EVER again." because you have said similar things before and rolling obviously doesn't agree with you. If we were talking about coke or alcohol or opiates here everybody would be saying its classic destructive addict behaviour, which is what it is. I think I remember telling you(it might have been someone else on here) to go to your doctor before to get yourself checked out, even to just put your mind to rest a little. Don't be worried about telling them about your drug use they probably here the same stuff all the time and they are there to help ye. Also if maybe think about getting in touch with an addiction support group if you ever feel like you want to roll again. They aren't all corny sitting in a big circle saying "my name is myke and I'm an addict" places and they can help because they offer an objective view of things where as people that know you personally or yourself can not, so obvious things that could help you alot slip by unnoticed. Anyways hope your feeling better, Tell your freinds that you are never doing e again and that they should talk you out of it if you decide you want to roll. Tell them you went to the doctor and he said you have a heart condition and rolling again could kill you on the spot, so that they know you really mean it and hopefully they will take you seriously. If they are decent freinds thats what they will do, if they go the other way and try to encourage you to roll again they probably aren't really good freinds or people. If you are going out somewhere in future where you know there are going to be pills going around its probably best not to go, but if you do, before you go out read all these type posts on here that you have made so many of, hopefully they will get you thinking resonably. E is obviously not the drug for you, you know that, if everytime you put your hand in the fire you get burned then maybe you should stop putting your hand in the fire.
i know man, it was stupid. Im done with that shitte. I feel like a hippocrite, but im back to normal now for the most part. I still feel shitty, mostly because of the fact that I know i shouldnt have gulped the pills. Im sure ill make a full recovery, ive done worse with MDMA then 3 1/2 semi-ok beans. None the less, its the principal of the ordeal. I appreciate the words of encouragement Stiney, your right. The thing is, i didn't really want to roll all that bad anyway. I just need to limit my alcohol and drug intake as whole. When I get intoxicated I start slipping back into my old ways, and it's far from the path that ive chosen to pave my future on.
Ask your buddies to verbally remind you to not consume pills when you're drinking if this type of situation happens again. It's obvious that one should not drink to this point but request that they do, in the chance that you DO drink enough that popping pills becomes possible; regardless of your desire to not consume them. When I use to drink a fair amount with my buddies at the bars (1.00 USD per drink on Thurs aided our drunkard status many a times) we all would snap out of retarded behavior if one of us would simply say something like "You're getting out of control - AKA you are excessively drunk." That simple effort saved us from regrettable shit that most hate in the bar scene mixed with too much booze.
i would just like to ask a question WHY do you people drink on e????? stupidest thing to do ever e is an UPPER and alcohol is a DOWNER if you dont know what that means look it up they CANCEL EACH OTHER OUT in a way........e is a DIURETIC and so is alcohol combnine these too and what do you think happens?!?!?!? honestly i could rant and rant and rant about this i LOVE e and i love alcohol but i never mix them except for an occasional beer or two on e.........HONESTLY JUST PLEASE TELL ME WHY YOU FEEL THE NEED TO DRINK ON E!!!! cause im so fucking lost ya this time you got a fucking limp dick next time youll be shitting and puking blood good luck trying to get layed with a broke ass penis and a bleeding anus
yeah you missed the point of the blackout comment apparently and you can drink as much as you want on E...nothing bad is going to happen to you...your body wont start failing...clearly as ive done it many times
I believe from his story, that he said he drank first and became extremley drunk, and took E pills while in a highly intoxicated state, and when he came to he did not remember taking the E pills. So, the question would be better formed as "WHY do you people take E when drunk?????" To which the response would most likely be "I was drunk and didnt know I even did it."
I agree its not the best thing to drink alcohol when doing e because alcohol causes dehydration and so does e, there is also the fact that alcohol slightly inhibits the effects of e. (1) Some people drink on e specifically because it inhibits the effects slightly, it takes the edge off and it also makes sleeping easier when you start to come down if you have a few pints in ye. (2) E is not a diuretic, infact most people find it has the very oppisite effect. (3) The only health risk from mixing e and alcohol is dehydration. Dehydration does not cause a broken penis or anal bleeding.
^yeah...the above post about the anal bleeding is quite a rediculous statement...im assuming it wasn't meant to be taken literally though. But I always used to drink on E The fact that booze supposedly "inhibits" the effects of MDMA seems to be a biased comment based on ones own experience...its an opinion really. I used to chute molly and take shots all night for no real reason except the taste and i never even felt the booze until i completely came down and actively chased the mdma out of my system with liquor.
