Heads For Ron Paul pres 2008

Discussion in 'Politics' started by jpd129, Oct 9, 2007.

  1. jpd129

    jpd129 Member

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    Ron Paul is running for president if you don't know who he is Google him.. He has a HUGE support base and has a real chance to win. If you don't know Ron Paul wants to Legalize! He also wants to end the IRS and NOT regulate the Internet among other things he wants to end the war abolish the patriot act and other surveillance injustices. He is a constitutionalist so he wants the government OUT of your life! He is a heads true friend. Please if you are interested in the freedom movement go to www(dot)ronpaul2008(dot)com
     
  2. Ihearttrees

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    All those things sound great but they are all pipe dreams.

    Not regulating the internet is a really bad idea. If place like myspac, acebook, and this site weren't forced to track pedophiles alot of innocent children would be tooken advantage of. Sometime regulation is good even though alot of radicals curs any and all of it on thier sole fundamental believe that anything government is bad.
     
  3. Willy_Wonka_27

    Willy_Wonka_27 Surrender to the Flow

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    or parents could do their job, but i guess thats too much to ask form parents today.
     
  4. fylthevoyd

    fylthevoyd Super Moderator

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    exactly :applause:

    But Ron Paul is a very good example that the American people are pissed off and he is some one who the people can carry all the way to the top....check him out people....this is our chance to be heard
     
  5. Ihearttrees

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    yea, its the parents fault, not the internet predators! lets really think about these things before we endorse them

    One positive thing that is coming out of Ron Paul running is he raises awareness that there is people that really are so fed up with the government that they are willing to endorse ridiculous candidates like Ron Paul. Its like going from one extreme to another. There is a middle ground.

    This being said, the rest of the population should look at these disenchanted poor soles supporting Ron Paul and ask themselves, "It appears that peaple are so unhappy with current governement they are willing to support anarchy. Where did this go wrong? What can be done to let these people feel government is fair?"

    There will always be fringe groups but when the fringe groups grow to the size they are these are the questions that have to be asked. Because when they are this size I don't think they can be considered fring groups anymore.
     
  6. Zeppelin

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    I dont even live in your country, and your election has more of an impact on my life then ours does. It seems like Canadian govt just talks about the little things and nothing big ever happens. With the U.S wars are started, other countries are screwed over by them, or you are all happy for once, depending on your leaders.
     
  7. Zoomie

    Zoomie My mom is dead, ok?

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    Are you people insane? The only good you'll get out of this guy is he MIGHT legalize weed and he MIGHT end the war in Iraq. The IRS will never go away (you think they'll give up their primary means of fund-raising after we let the PRC become our banking agent???) and he's a pro-lifer! He's another right-wing Xtian Texan.

    Yeah, that's what American needs...
     
  8. zen_arcade

    zen_arcade Banned

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    nothing, 'least in my case. :)
     
  9. thespeez

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    If we were to reduce the tax burden on families, one of the parents would be able to stay home to take care of the kids while the other could earn the family's keep. With one parent home the kids would be alot less likely to get into mischief or be taunted by predators and the like.

    This may sound a little off topic, but one thing we must do is educate the public on how government services can be replaced with private services and people will be better off under such a system. If we were also to reduce the red-tape needed to start a business, communities would prosper!
     
  10. GTA83

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    Ron Paul is a terrible candidate, he is a libertarian, thus believes in free markets which will destroy the environment. He believes in marketing anything you can, pot, national parks, bird watching. He doesn't care if a company pollutes into a river, if they do than it is only up to civil nuisance and trespass suits to try to fight it... imagine a citizen going up against a big business over dumping. Be an educated voter, don't just thing "oh cool he is going to legalize pot, he must be good" Ron Paul doesn't give a shit about pot heads, the environment, whether you drive a hybrid or a hummer, he just cares about expanding economic growth into every sector imaginable and letting the people choose what they want, and with over half of the country not being educated in these matters, or having the money to vote with their dollar, this is a terrible idea.
     
  11. polecat

    polecat Weerd

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    I guess it's a matter of priorities. My main fear is America willfully being turned into a full-scale big-brother like police state. I want good foreign policy and no more fucking around with basic rights(hapeus corpus, personal privacy, what is/isn't torture, ect).

    I want the country out of debt. Unlike the other republicans, Ron Paul wants to actually down-size the government and get it out of people's lives. Reform of the stagnating welfare/social security systems is a must. Why should I pay social security now, when there won't be any left for me when I come of age?

    I also don't want a stupid NAFTA, or North American Union. Also, what is the point of having legal immigration when you let people sneak in, and then you decide to let them stay!?! If that's the case,why the fuck would you bother to go through the legal immigration process? If you want to let in more people, take the time to make some laws that allow that. And a country can't be a country without secure borders.

    But to be honest, there are a lot of policies the Dr. Paul supports that I don't. First off, I am pro-choice and I think it's quite contrary to talk about less govt influence in personal life and then ban abortion. But honestly I don't think a bill banning abortion will ever pass in my lifetime. And I do support gay rights. And I think that having Ron Paul as president will not be good for gays, but neither will any other republican candidate. But as I said before, it's a difference of priorities. It'll be impossible to find a perfect candidate(esp. for religous/domestic issues). And those issues seem sort of petty compared to others so w/e.

    Another thing I worry about is Paul's desire to get rid of the natl. bank. There is a very big precedent(cough*Jackson*cough), and that went very poorly indeed. But he'll need to present a valid alternative and maybe it will be a better idea. And if it isn't, it's not like congress has to pass the bill.

    Extra Bads: School prayer sucks. Not letting gays adopt is retarded.
    Extra Goods(that offset the extra bads for me at least): No war on drugs will clean out our prisons. I like smoking pot, and I'd like it even more if it were legal. I also like my guns.

    So there you go. That is the opinion of just one of many Ron Paul supporters across this nation. Go ahead and argue with my ideas, I don't mind being proved wrong.

    PS-I'm still 17, but I'll be 18 in time for the election.

    PSS-Chris Dodd is also a great candidate, but I never hear about him and he doesn't have a chance in hell against the media's poster children of the dem's(Clinton/Obama).
     
  12. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, Hillary will save us! America needs Hillary!
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    He's also a member of the CFR, as is Hillary. The CFR is behind the North American Union you are against.
     
  14. lode

    lode Banned

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    He wants to return social policy in the US to 1919.

    If that's your ideal world, he might be your ideal candidate. I however, like the fact that the government supports health care initiatives. I wish we would spend more money on healthcare and education.

    He doesn't have a realistic chance fortunately.
     
  15. polecat

    polecat Weerd

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    I can't say I knew that. But I've only read a basic overview of his policies, and heard him talk on NPR a while ago. I got the impression that he was an intelligent guy. I haven't looked that much into him seeing as I haven't heard a word about him since.

    I still think he sounded better than obama/hillary.
     
  16. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    You think a regulated internet is good idea? Ask a chinese political blogger if they think it's a good idea, oh wait...
     
  17. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    I am an educated voter thank you very much.

    I can say i agree with Paul on about 99% of his positions. with 1% being the margin of error...
     
  18. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    No way, have you been paying attention to what's happened to education in this country since the creation of the Department of Education, especially since it's 60% increase in size and scope after the passing of "no child left behind"? Education of the public is best acheived with increased local control and a variety of educational options for parents and their kids.

    We need a smart approach to education and healthcare, the best approach we've seen is to keep the decision making within the hands of those directly affected.

    Competition drives excellence.
     
  19. Shane99X

    Shane99X Senior Member

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    I know, he sounds good till you scratch below the surface. i did like that he stood his ground during tuesdays debate about legalization. Edwards said no to legalization because "it would send the wrong message to kids", when Dodd was allowed to respond he started right in with the amount of people that are in prison serving madatory sentences for non-violent offenses when the mod cut him off in order to ask Biden something stupid about tainted toys from china...

    again, he sounds good, but...

    man it pisses me off Edwards got away with that. When are we going to have a real discussion in this country about the many flaws of prohibition?
     
  20. polecat

    polecat Weerd

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    but what about welfare? Sure the system now is rotten and breeds a culture of dependency, but if you just cut off that lifeline you'll just see what happened in the 80's when Reagan cut social funding; massive poverty in the inner cities with a large increase in crime(or you could just blame crack, whatever works).

    Ron Paul wants to leave poverty relief up to individual states and private charities. But what happens to a state like Mississippi, which needs the most relief but can't raise the money due to its poverty? And private charities sound nice, but do you really want to rely on the whims of the American Public? It's hard to make money off the poor.

    I think the federal welfare system should be reformed, maybe even cut back, but eliminating it all together is a bad idea. Another problem with the doctor...
     

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