Is Kobe Bryant admitting to rape?

Discussion in 'Women's Forum' started by moonshyne, Sep 1, 2004.

  1. moonshyne

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    uh huh. hmm, are you speaking from personal experience?
     
  2. Megara

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    he does make a point...it is not normal behavior for a woman who has just been raped to jump into bed with another man...


    the two women i've known who have been raped, didnt even want to see their FATHER they were so scared and frightened of men.

    Also, her sexual history should be brought up...if she could have sustained those injuries from another partner, doesnt kobe(or any guy) deserve to have the jury hear that information? It does introduce reasonable doubt.

    Rape shield laws are great in theory, bad in practice.
     
  3. xthevalkyriex

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    I can't believe you guys are advocating that her sexual history should be made part of a trial. For your information, I do know of women who had sex right after they were raped. Why? Because they wanted to feel in control of their sexuality after the horrible experience they had just been through. The only thing that should matter in a rape trial is the victim's experience with the accused.
     
  4. Megara

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    the fact of the matter is this: if a woman has sex after she had sex with one man, any bruises could have come from another man, not from him..that is reasonable doubt.
     
  5. mynameiskc

    mynameiskc way to go noogs!

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    in a "her word against his" scenario, maintaining that evidence can be your only way of ridding that doubt.
     
  6. phlyinhigh

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    they just dropped the case, the women just decided she couldn't "continue with the trial", she said it "wasn't worth it"....i think that if she had really gotten raped it just might be "worth" it to continue with the trial and have him get the consequenses he deserved..she is full of shit, she just wanted money..hah and get this, the article says "she wants to be known as a singer, not as the girl that acused kobe" thats great...
     
  7. Megara

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    in my personal opinion, the statement he released about seeing how she might have misunderstood that night is the prelude to an ending of the civil trial which will be 'quietly settled outside court for an undisclosed amount.' It is just a way of saving her reputation and probably agreed upon by their lawyers. But thats just my opinion.
     
  8. Maggie Sugar

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    You "think?" Have you ever been raped and had to go through the hell of prosecuting the rapist? MOST rapists are never brought to trial simply because the VICTIM doesn't want to go through the hell of the trial. You "think." You "think"wrong. Her eventual reaction is more the norm for raped womyn.
     
  9. Megara

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    have you been raped and gone through the hell of prosecuting the rapist, maggie?
     
  10. Maggie Sugar

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    I have stood by the sides of freinds who decided NOT to prosecute, for the very reasons this womyn dropped the charges against Bryant. Being made a victim again, not being beleived, not wanting to be raped again.

    I was assaulted as a child. The statute of limitations has run out on my offender. I was too young to withstand the rigors of a trial at 9. Any other questions?
     
  11. Megara

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    yes just one,

    on what basis do you find the woman to be the victim and not kobe bryant? especially in light of her having sex after her 'rape.'
     
  12. phlyinhigh

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    maggie i am sorry that you have had friends that have had to go through that, its sad, really, but this particular lady was not raped..alright? i know you dont want to belive it, but she wasn't, she wanted some cash, thats it
     
  13. moonshyne

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    How do you know that? Is it just easier for you to think that way?
     
  14. seamonster66

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    Its her word against his, and her actions were strange after the fact......you've gotta let it go...there ARE women who have falsely accused men of rape, and there is absolutely no way of knowing what really happend here.
     
  15. phlyinhigh

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    why would it be easier for me to believe that way, of corse i dont want to believe that this women was raped, rape is a horrible thing, and maybe he did rape her, but from what i have seen i believe that he is innocent
     
  16. Maggie Sugar

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    I was under the impression that she has sex with a different man before her encounter with Bryant.

    I had a roomate who was raped in college. She started fucking every guy who gave her a second look. Seems she was trying to obliterate the horrors of the rape, by making sex seem like not a big deal. She was in self destructive mode. It was very sad. She never procecuted, or even went to the police, for fear of being treated like a slut.

    Womyn in shock do odd things. I have NO IDEA what this womyn is like or what she did after she was raped. HOW, if it wasn't rape, would Bryant have admitted that she might have "thought" it wasn't consensual? HE KNEW it wasn't or he wouldn't have said such a thing. Men KNOW when they have consent. If there is ANY doubt, don't whip it out.

    Nuff said.
     
  17. seamonster66

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    I have a feeling Kobe ASSUMES every woman wants to have sex with him......that should change after the hours of footage with him sticking his tongue out in that annoying way.
     
  18. Megara

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    The 26-year-old Los Angeles Lakers guard issued a written apology that stopped short of taking responsibility for his actions.

    “Although I truly believe this encounter between us was consensual, I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did,” he said.





    Prominent defense attorney Alan Dershowitz, Harvard Law School criminal law expert, said the sides might have made an "implicit" agreement on a settlement of the civil lawsuit, the Los Angeles Times said.

    "A plaintiff cannot go to a defendant and say, 'If you pay me, I will drop the charges.' There can't be an explicit deal, but there may be an implicit one," he told the Times.

    We are now involved in a very complicated game of chess," Dershowitz added. "It clearly is a negotiated statement. Not a word of that was written by Kobe. You can see the lawyers' hands all over that. It is very artfully done."

    There have several previous cases in which the accused made a financial settlement with the accuser, i.e. singer Michael Jackson, who agreed to pay $15.3 million to a boy after being accused of molesting him in 1993, the Times said. The boy did not testify against Jackson.

    In court, one of the Bryant accuser's lawyers, John Clune, said Bryant’s apology factored into her decision to drop out of the case. Defense attorneys Pamela Mackey and Hal Haddon said the accuser “insisted on that statement as a price of freedom,” according to a story posted on the ESPN network Web site Thursday.




    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5861379/

    There is absolutely nothing to prove the sex was anything but consentual except her word.

     
  19. Maggie Sugar

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    Except that he admitted that she may not have viewed it as consensual. WHY have sex with a womyn if there is ANY doubt about her consent? Seamonster is right.

    I don't know for SURE, but the bet is that he did force this womyn. YOU have nothing to prove he didn't rape her except HIS word.
     
  20. Megara

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    "I recognize now that she did not and does not view this incident the same way I did"


    there is a big emphasis on now, maggie.


    Let me introduce you to law 101.

    In this country, you are innocent until proven guilty. There is no evidence to prove this man guilty, therefore he is innocent.


    I suspect you think this man is guilty purely because he was charged with a crime and that a woman accused him of it.
     

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