Chemtrails

some of them are indeed normal. not all of them are harmful. Most are not. some do cause chemtrails however. It is even speculated that planes that spray aren't actually piloted by a person but robot, or remote controlled.

 

We live by McGuire Air Force Base and Lakehurst Naval-Air Station.


My God the amont of military planes flying overhead.

 

I used to live in Alamogordo New Mexico. About five miles across the desert was Holloman AFB. The stealth fighters are based there. They look like black arrowheads against the sky.

Sometimes they would fly so low over my house, I could see the pilot's faces. Very quiet when compared to what the Germans were flying. Yes, the Germans train there too.


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how can you believe this when that website also states

 

Because lots of these sites are run by the intelligence agencies, and they mix relevant information with disinfo in order to discredit the information that is legitimate. If people are in the process of waking up and are beginning to see that something isn't right, then they visit a site like that, it turns them away and they go back to sleep again, believing it's all nonsense.

People need to be very careful of the educate-yourself.org website, which is clearly disinfo. There is a lot of relevant information on the site, but it's mixed in with nonsense about orgonite, sylphs, Montauk, and other pseudo-Christian baloney. I also find it rather suspicious that this website is at the top of most search engine returns pertaining to chemtrails and other conspiracies.

 

Been watching the skies since this thread started. The trails are only in the upper atmosphere.


I really mean the upper limit of flight as the real upper atmosphere planes can't even fly.

Plenty of plans fly at lower elevations but they dont leave any trails.

Assuming this is something about air pressure and atmospheric dynamics.

 

Here is a 90 min. documentary from researcher Clifford Carnicom that some of you might want to check out, which does a good job highlighting the differences between natural wator vapor contrails and the persistent and unnatural aerosol trails, commonly referred to as "chemtrails."

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2815320198655156407

 

Not true. I've seen plenty (actually most) of low-flying planes leaving chemtrails.

 

wow this is crazy, today i saw two of the thickest trails ive ever seen before over my house.

 

This is actually really interesting, id never heard about this before but now, thinking about it...
Ive seen these things thousands of times. And theyre usually like in an X shape or something...and they can even be quite low...which is unusual

Like carl, i lived in Brittany for a while a few years back, and i too saw them there where flights are infrequent

Its made me wonder

 

All that means is that there's not a lot of upper atmosphere winds to dissipate the water vapor that came out of a jet engine up there.

All these "Chemtrails" are is basically a man-made cloud, caused by a jet engine sucking in super-cold upper atmosphere air, superheating it quickly, then sending it out as a cloud of water vapor.

No conspiracy. Nothing evil or Nefarious about it.

These "Chemtrails" have been seen since the beginning of high-altitude aviation.

 

No shit we're poisoning the sky, but nobody's doing anything out of spite. Get a grip! And what the hell does this have to do with mind control anyway!?

 

Who said anyone's doing it out of spite? Do you even know what you're talking about?

 

Contrails=naturally occuring phenomenon from jet engines
Chemtrails= markedly different trails left often in a type of grid pattern over many areas (NATO countries in my observations)

I am no scientist, but I grew up around aviation and have watched the sky since before I can remember and chemtrails are a relatively new phenomenon. Whether it's weather modification, or scalar energy weapons doesnt matter, the fact is, that they exist and can not be blamed on contrails any more. They even admit to large scale "cloud seeding" operations but won't get into any of the details. If they've got nothing to hide, then why not answer a few questions?

research HAARP, ULF scalar energy, weather modification, etc...

 

I was replying to the original poster. No need to be a douchebag.

 

I am new to all this but I have been keeping a watchful eye out both towards the heavens and diggin' through research. Like most of the information that has been handed out since the Kennedy Administration it's obvious you have to know how to pick and choose for yourself. Weed out the disinformation. However if there is any strong material I can pick up and peruse on the matter of these Chemtrails it would be greatly appreciated.

Oh and coming home from work yesterday I noticed a grid like pattern in the Capital Region of NY State. Just so happens it was done right above the airport and just after a cold front came in. I have a few pictures of this snapped from my camera phone.

 

ooh i remember back in august where they had an outdoor festival event in the town, and that morning they flew around "editing the weather" so that it would be a nice bright sunny day for the event... Then a few days later the neighboring areas got unusually Huge hail, which resulted in many unhappy farmers...(this was in a town near St. Petersburg Russia)...actually its well known that in Moscow on major outdoor events they alter the weather if its cloudy... And Im sure it happens in many places... for similar purposes..

 

Now that I look, I see chemtrails consistently. I see heavy spraying at least once a week, and I work the Graveyard shift, so I'm not really outside during the day that often. I'm starting to get mad that no one else seems to see what is right in front of their faces. Also it pisses me off when people act offended when you tell them what's up with this shit!

 

i didn't really know what to think of trails until i watched some for a while.

i was playing some basketball, and i saw a thin trail. i looked at it every few minutes, and it got wider. when i checked it about 20 minutes later, it was huge. something that many unaware citizens would pass off as clouds.

and its also weird as fuck how chemtrails are shown in things like stamps and even windows desktops as natural clouds when they clearly aren't.
i even saw an x being formed by two crossing trails on a stamp. wtf.
messed up indeed. all one needs to do is study them, and they are everywhere if you'd look up. its really odd how little attention people pay to the things that are above them. just too focused on things around them.

 

The thing is no matter what you're take is on this thing a solid mind can discern that these are different from regular water vapor Contrails. These things are lasting in the sky for Hours. It's just simple logic that SOMETHING IS GOING ON THAT'S DIFFERENT.


It hurts me when my family and friends pass it off as conspiracy talk or "What gain would the government get from this." I'm just trying to give a heads up literally. Look to the sky yourself. I care enough for you to at least engage you in conversation.

I'm gonna hit em' with the News Reports from across the US and Europe and let them decide.