War with Iran? Senate votes today.

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by SunLion, Sep 26, 2007.

  1. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    How would nuclear war affect Gore's global warming synopsis? I think it would be major.
     
  2. gshdgns

    gshdgns Member

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    I do not think the Bomb will be launched until desperation sets in. But I see desperation coming.
     
  3. plastic bagism

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    We have two options:

    1) Revolution
    2) Nuclear War

    Life or death. And the choice has to be made soon.
     
  4. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    There's a third choice PEACE!
     
  5. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    if you told that to one of them behind closed doors....

    they would undoubtedly luagh....in your face
     
  6. plastic bagism

    plastic bagism Member

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    Well peace would be achieved after a revolution, right?
     
  7. gshdgns

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    Can anyone give one good reason to go to war with Iran? Not the reasons the administration is giving. I mean just one good reason for invading a sovereign country (again).
     
  8. plastic bagism

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    Nope. The reason Iran's hostile toward us (still not as hostile as we are toward them) is because we tried to take away their sovereign rights while hypocritically attempting to escalate ours. So now the wolf's knocking at the door and we're trying to destroy their country before they can destroy ours.
    My thoughts, though, are that unless we spur a revolution here at home they will hit us first.
     
  9. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's not about them destroying this country. They can't -- it's impossible. They don't have a nuke, and even if they did, they have no means of delivering it. And even if they did have a nuke and a means of delivering it, do you think they'd be stupid enough to use it when they know they'd be wiped off the map in an instant?

    It's all fearmongering and has nothing to do with nukes. It's all about using fear to get the public to accept an invasion of Iran so the globalists can control that country as well by installing a puppet government as they have in Iraq.

    Nothing that we've been told about Iran is the truth. They pose absolutely no threat whatsoever to the US or Israel.
     
  10. gshdgns

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    So, still not one GOOD reason to invade Iran?
     
  11. heeh2

    heeh2 Senior Member

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    well....erm.......

    THER BEARDS ARE TOO LONG!!!!!!!

    LETS KICK THEIR ASSES.....why?

    BECAUST IT WOULD BE UNAMERICAN IF WE DIDNT

    NOW GET OFF YOUR UNPATRIOTIC ASS AND START KILLING IRANIANS
     
  12. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    I am sure one will be manufactured.
     
  13. SunLion

    SunLion Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    So, still not one GOOD reason to invade Iran?

    Republicans generally believe that America would be better off with a fully-privatized mercenary army, one that only answers to The Party. Thus their focus on providing Blackwater/KBR et al with all the best equipment, and on systematically tearing down and breaking the US military.

    Top Pentagon officials now say that the US Military is so damaged and short of equipment that it can no longer be effective for national defense.

    That's NOT an accident.

    And no, that's not a good reason to attack Iran. But I believe that's exactly why they're going to do it.
     
  14. Gravity

    Gravity #winning

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    I don't know if i would go as far as saying they pose no threat.. even if they do what business is it of ours.. Israel needs to handle its own fucking business.. We need to stop playing captain save a jew...er captain save an "occupant" whichever you prefer... if he is no real threat then Israel should defuse it themselves, but instead they are too busy fuckin with syria.. who russia is fucking supplying arms too.

    I hate to say this, but I'm ready for something to actually fucking happen if it's gonna happen.. bring it on already.. fuck the dumb shit.

    But I won't dismiss your theory totally.. I mean.. look at how long we have fucking shadowboxed with russia.. for fuckin decades, and neither has ever done shit but sound off, create fear in the people - and generate revenue while hide'n whats actuality and reality.

    Fuck it.. I'm ready for whatever to happen.
     
  15. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Well you may get you wish Gravity. With the problems with Pakistan yesterday, and India concerned with the situation and saying that Pakistan is responsible for the bombings in India. It may not be long before Gingrich get's his wish and World War III is declared.
     
  16. Piney

    Piney Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    Most of the people in Iran our our friends. Iranians remember the good times when they were friends with The West before The Revolution. Iranian rights are trampled by the Revolutionary Guard and Clerical Oligarchies not by any outsiders. Thousands of Iranians live in The US, refugees from goverment opression.

    Living conditions in Iran are crashing. Mismanagment of the economy is an internal affair. One would think that with all that oil things would be better.

    Iran's junta wants a war to secure its control over a dissatisfied population, it would be a mistake to allow them to goad The US into a war.

    Iran's situation is similar to that of Argentina on the eve of the Falklands War, they have run the economy to the ground and are looking to distract the populace with outside conflicts.
     
  17. gshdgns

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    In 1953, the US worked with the UK to overthrow the democratically-elected government of Iran when Iranian Prime Minister Mohammed Mossedegh attempted to nationalize Iran's oil. The coup was led by CIA operative Kermit Roosevelt Jr, grandson of President Theodore Roosevelt. Shah Mohammad Reza Pahlavi was put in power, despite Iran's 1906 constitution that said he was to rule in conjunction with Parliament.
    The Shah was one of the most brutal dictators of his era.

    Oh yeah, good times....
     
  18. Shatarag

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    Today being Oct. 25,2007, the Fox News channel reports that some believe that the current administration will not leave Power, with the current regime of Iran still in Power.
    Now this can only be interpreted as such. We as Americans have a President who controls his office based on his Religious belifes, the Iranian people also have a President whom controls his office based on his Religious beliefs, this creating the element that has been the the key in starting "EVERY" war since the beginning of time."My God Vs. Your God"! So dont fool yourselves into believing that these wars are strickly about oil, or democracy. These wars with the Middle East are all about Religious Beliefs with OIl being a benefit of being the toughest kid on the block.

    But lets not forget the President, does not have to get the Senates approval for War,
    The Patriot Act is in affect.
     
  19. SunLion

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    It may not be long before Gingrich get's his wish and World War III is declared.
    Norman Podheretz (sp?) has said that he believes the US should start a world war, and kill people by the hundreds of millions- and went on to say that Giuliani agrees with him on every detail of how to proceed.

    A vote for Giuliani is a vote to kill more people than Hitler ever did.

    I guess that's progress- at least we get to vote on whether or not to begin the largest slaughter of human beings that's ever occurred. If he's elected, you might as well just count me in with "them turra-ists."
     
  20. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    What next round up all the arabs and put them on reservations, while private western contractors take over their natural resources? All in the name global security. What a crock. And we've bought into it.

    When has peace ever been a high priority since we entered Iraq. Can't seem to even consider the prospect until the PSAs are signed.
     
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