Why the US hasn't had another terror attack

well for my two cents worth, i don't argue with the possible existence of an al-CIA-da, only that it was funded, underwritten, and created, by anything other then the political intrests of the corporatocracy, however under the table and rube goldburg it may have gone about doing so. nor how many decades BEFORE the events which made the name a household word.

(and the corporatocracy is 'run', to the extent it can be said to be run at all, a hell of a lot more by white supremists, then by semetic intrests of any sort. and i do believe it is THIS that is the point bird seems to be deliberately missing or misrepresenting.)

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Anyone who still believes in the official conspiracy theory (that 19 arabs from caves successfully pulled off 9/11) I fear it may already be too late for them. Cognitive dissonance can be VERY strong on the psyche. A woman named Laurie Manwell recently wrote a thesis on how to overcome the psychological barriers that prevent people from looking at/into things that can potentially shatter their worldviews. http://www.911blogger.com/node/10819
As for 9/11, there was a poll taken last year asking how many Americans believed the Bush administration was complicit in the 9/11 attack, over 40% said they did. Over 70% believed the attacks were known of in advance and allowed to go forward...an act of high treason against the American people, punishable by execution (according to the Founding Fathers).
Skip, I suggest you watch a documentary (available on google video) called "9/11: Press for Truth". It makes no theory, only questions brought up by 9/11 victims' family members. You need to wake up to the reality of FALSE FLAG terrorism. It's real. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3865048042993700360&q=press+for+truth&total=684&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

 

Another good video is called Loose Change. I think they are releasing a third version soon. Seems that they realize their points are flimsy at best and are removing some of the content in the later films. No more "impossible cellphone calls", no more "WTC 1&2 controlled demolition". Some people think that this movie is just the greatest, but it really is pathetic.

 

Iraq was contained, and no threat to anyone. It diverted our resources and focus, at a time, when that should have been the last thing allowed to happen. It is now no argument a "textbook" failure. I just wonder what textbook they were reading.

 

If it's pathetic, then why the initial sentence? And no, the controlled demolitions of WTC 1 and 2 WILL be included, despite the falsehood put forth by the government-controlled History Channel in their horrid hit-piece last week.

 

If you'll recall, who was throwing rocks at Israel?

Saddam was removed because Israel wanted him removed. They now want us in Iran.


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The West's funding of the Mujahadeen is what helped give rise to al-Qaeda. Keep in mind the very name of this organization comes from a CIA database file on the Mujahadeen and translates to "the base," which is slang for using the bathroom in certain areas of the Middle East. That's right, Muslim fundamentalist extremists named themselves after a bodily function on purpose.

Sure. I also have some oceanfront property in the middle of the Sahara I would like to sell you.

Today, al-Qaeda (and the Taliban) is funded by the Pakistani ISI, which receives massive funding from the US and is essentially a wing of US-British-Israeli intelligence.

It was the Pakistani ISI General Mahmoud Ahmad who wired $100,000 to Mohammed Atta just days leading up to 9/11, and it was Ahmad who was meeting with officials in Washington DC on the morning of September 11th.

I suppose this is just a coincidence, too, as well as the fact that, despite this, the US still provides billions of dollars in funding to the ISI?

Right. It only proves the Anglo-American establishment will fund anyone who will serve their agenda, or at the very least prove beneficial to it. After these persons have served their purpose, they are usually stomped out. Just look at Saddam, who the US provided funding to for years and supplied with chemical and biological weapons. When he no longer served any purpose to their agenda, they did away with him. This is the same case with every patsy and scapegoat the West has used over the years.

How do you know they are just "blowbacks," Skip? Especially when you look back at the history of false flag terrorism and consider who really stands to gain from these attacks. I mean, is it bin Laden who is turning the West into a police state and waging wars of occupation on sovereign nations in the name of stopping the "evil doers"? I mean, c'mon! You act like the government stands to lose from terrorism and that they actually care about what happens on US soil, to US citizens they see as nothing more than cannon fodder. This is very naive, because it's clear who has the real motive in this and stands the most to gain from the fear that's instilled by terrorism.

The agenda we see being carried out today was planned a very long time ago. Does it not seem suspicious that the Muslim boogeymen are now coming out of the woodwork to provide the pretext for this agenda? It almost seems right on cue, and that's because it is. Their timing could not be better.

Either these "evil doers" are not very bright, or all this nonsense about fanatical Muslim terrorism is bullshit. Why would they want to play right into the hands of the US buy giving them justification to occupy even more of their land and kill more of their people?

Yes, and Muslim fanatics make for great dupes, as does any religious fanatic who has been duped into believing they're serving "God's" cause. Half of the time these patsies are mentally deranged or near retarded, which makes them even easier to manipulate. Just look at the so-called "shoe bomber" Richard Reid, or Zacharias Moussaoui. All these people need is for someone to approach them as some "spiritual leader" (who is more than likely a CIA or MI6 agent) and convince them to help commit some atrocity in the name of Allah. Of course these deranged patsies are unable to carry out an attack like 9/11 themselves without extensive funding and training, and we know where the 9/11 patsies were trained. We also know that their expenses were being paid by the US government.

I suppose this is also irrelevant to you?

No, but we DO know he was employed by the CIA. The fact that he was jailed means nothing, because as with all patsies, after they serve their purpose to their handlers, they are either jailed or killed. If they are lucky, they might be exiled, as is likely the case with bin Laden, whose family is long-time business partners with the Bushes.

I don't. Nor do I believe everything I read in USA Today or hear on the CBS Nightly News.

And where exactly do your "facts" come from? You are spouting the same ridiculous crap the government and its lapdog media has been feeding you for the past six years without even questioning it!

So if bin Laden posed such a threat to the interests of the Anglo-American establishment that trained him and funded him for so many years, making him into the patsy that he is... then why wasn't he apprehended when he was visited by the CIA in the summer of 2001, when he was being treated at a hospital in Dubai for a kidney infection? This was reported on by the French publication Le Figaro, as well as the London Guardian.

This is just more media rhetoric you're repeating verbatim. You see, this is what the media told you and you believe it to automatically be true, when in fact all evidence contradicts this completely. If the US paid the Taliban millions to "eradicate opium," then why has the opium production in Afghanistan nearly TRIPLED since coalition forces invaded? Obviously that money went to something other than eradicating opium, and if you want the real truth behind the surge in opium production, all you need to do is look back on the history of the government's involvement in the drug trade in South America. The Taliban are now really just a modern-day version of the Contras, and opium is just one of the many REAL reasons the US went into Afghanistan. NOT to "eradicate" it, but to make billions of dollars from it.

I never said that. I don't pay as much attention to the motives behind the ones being funded as much as the motives behind the ones doing the funding. THEY'RE the ones with the real agenda, and these Muslim terrorists wouldn't be able to do anything if it wasn't for their funding. It's called creating the best enemy money can by, which is also the title of an excellent book by Stanford Professor Antony Sutton.

Because the guy was obviously being well fed by his handlers and was an imposter/double agent. For all we know he wasn't a fundamentalist at all, but was playing the role of one in order to recruit people (REAL fundamentalist dupes) into this CIA-MI6-Mossad controlled patsy network.

Again, you are showing blind faith in what the media tells you, when all you have to do is dig a little deeper to see most of this doesn't add up. This guy was working for the CIA. He was on the payroll!

But even Cheney and Rumsfeld are/was taking orders from people above them. This is another area where you're being mislead, because it doesn't matter which person is in office or which party they belong to. These agendas never change as they are always administered from the top by the same people who remain in power indefinitely. Cheney and Rumsfeld might be in control at a certain level, but they're by no means making the rules. This is why little would change if Hillary or Obama was voted in. Both are pawns of the establishment, just like Bush and Cheney, and they would be serving the same masters at the top.

No, they're puppets on strings who do what they're told and are rewarded well for it. And to think the FBI simply looked the other way, much like the idea that 9/11 was a matter of mere incompetence, is playing right into their hands by giving them the benefit of the doubt.

This agenda didn't begin or end with PNAC. The only thing PNAC did was lay the groundwork for the agenda we are seeing unfold today in the Middle East, which was really planned a very long time ago. What I am saying is that Middle Eastern false flag terror did not begin with the Project for the New American Century.

Cheney's statement from 1994 only proves what a blatant liar he is and how he knew the same thing would happen by invading the country 10 years later. The only reason Cheney supported the agenda in '03 is because it served his agenda and he knew he stood a lot to gain, regardless of a quagmire or not.

More or less than the government's "official" version of events you seem to want to cling to as gospel? You question what you call my "conspiracy theories," but I never hear you question the government's. In fact, it seems to me like you buy hook, line and sinker into the bogus "War on Terror", exactly as it has been sold to the public.

No, Skip. By believing in the illusionary world sold to you by the media, THAT makes you powerless! To believe in Left vs. Right makes you powerless! That's why they feed the public nothing but lies and polemic drivel, so they will become neutralized and polarized. This is EXACTLY the position we are in today. I believe that in order for things to change, people need to see past the veneer and the smoke screen that's been created to keep them blind and misinformed. Only once people wake up to what's really going on can something be done.

 

But you do seem to believe everything Prison Planet says. In your opinion, which media outlet demands the most accountability? Also, what is your feeling on the major media outlets being corporate mouthpieces, but on the same note, CT's and conspiracy websites are not afraid to use them as references when the situation fits? Why are the major media outlets only reputable when they reinforce the conspiracy?

Maybe you should. If you did pay attention, you may know about where most of the funding comes from. Unfortunately, Muslim terrorists don't need financial support from the U.S. They receive more than enough money from oil rich Arab nations to fund their Madrassas and training camps.

How long ago was this planned, and by who?

 

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Because I believe what I do, it means I believe everything on Prison Planet? Is that really the best you've got?

You ask about accountability, but exactly who is the mainstream media accountable to? Certainly not the dumbed-down public who have become acclimated to being fed a bunch of jingoistic, sophomoric garbage passed off as "news". The only people the media are accountable to is its owners, and once you realize who owns the media, you can better understand why they don't want people knowing too much. Knowledge is power, and it isn't power they want in the hands of joe six-pack who must work ten hours a day just to provide for his family.

From time to time the media will report on something of importance, but this will receive minimal coverage from only a few outlets. The media works by pushing what THEY deem "relevant" by burying stories of real importance, devoting only one or two articles to that topic. Instead, the media bombards the public with stories about how al-Qaeda wants to attack us (to instill fear), or stories about this party vs. that party (to create polarization). This is mixed in with mindless fluff such as sports and celebrity gossip (to keep the public mindless and preoccupied with nonsense). This is how propaganda works. You give truths and half-truths, mixed in with spin. It can either be Left spin or Right spin -- it doesn't matter because Left and Right was designed soley for the public, to keep them divided and easier to control.

You are more naive than I thought if you actually believe the media is accountable to the public. The media is a mouthpiece for the establishment and it has always been. That's why it's called the MEDIA. They are the middle men between the government and what they call the "unenlightened" masses.

If the media was accountable to anyone other than its controllers, they would never get away with churning out that crap they do on a daily basis. At the same time, the public has become so dumbed-down, thanks to the media, that they don't even know what real news is. They have been conditioned to believe that if the news talks about it, then it must be real. If the news doesn't talk about it, then it must be a conspiracy theory.

Oil rich Arab nations (ie. Saudi Arabia) which are totally in bed with the West you forgot to mention.

If you go back to the 1920's and read the writings of Sir Ronald Storrs, who was the British High Commissioner of Palestine, he wrote in his books how the creation of a state of Israel would be used to conquer the entire region and bring it under the same standardized control as the West. That is what this is really all about. It's not simply about oil. It's about declaring war on these countries, destroying their sovereignty by installing puppet governments under the guise of "democracy," and bringing them into this system. This global agenda was really planned hundreds of years ago.

 

What is your motivation for destroying Iran?



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There have been other assaults on US soil, but this government is quick to deny them, because their only strength is the false supposition of protecting US citizens, but if they actually wanted to protect us, they would have gone into Pakistan and captured Bin Laden, unless his testimony would have impinged their veracity. Now we supposedly have to stay in Iraq to protect ourselves. Iraq was contained they were never a threat to the world or the US, but now Pakistan and Bin Laden send their fighters over the border to make a threat...whose fault is that? But let's all blame Iran...new boogeyman. Let's never look at the Saudis or Pakistanis.

My biggest problem with this adiministration is how they dealt with Katrina...a natural disaster, and they didn't do well. I say leave the oil interests behind and focus on our country. If they can't deal with a hurricane, I don't trust you to protect my life or my family against outside interests.

GW go smoke out and bring back dead or alive the bad guy, or give it up you're a poser.

 

How to start a war, interesting read.
http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2002/How-To-Start-A-WarMay02.htm
The US government has a history of starting wars, but looking innocent.

 

I see maybe a ship being hit by an "Iranian" attack. Bingo!! Excuse for war!

 

Excellent read! Everything outlined in one place. Terribly depressing though.