Ban in Amsterdam

Here we go.

Shrooms are about to become banned in Holland now. *big sigh*

Just wanted to let you know..

peace

 

Oh noes.
what about the rest of the netherlands?
Damn.. they are trying to supress our minds.

 

No, they're trying to stop idiots from killing themselves by jumping off buildings.

If the Amsterdam scene were seen as a drugged-out deathtrap, the economy would suffer.

 

so let the idiots weed themselves out. its just as bad as dying in a car accident caused by alcohol, only it happens much less often.

 

Yeah but the general public doesn't look at it like that. =(

J.C

 

No, the ban is not just amsterdam, it is a national law over the entire netherlands.

What ever happned to natural selection huh? Survival of the fittest? Those who don't respect the mushroom and run out and get hit by a train, doesnt get to spread his/her genes. Simple.

Probably won't be long untill they ban Coffeeshops too....

 

hahahhahhahah @ Amsterdam.

 

why can a few irresponsible people ruin the fun for the rest of us? Did anyone else notice that 134 out of the 148 cases reported to poison control in amsterdam, were from foreigners? these were all people who probably didn't know what they were getting themselves into. The girl that died had taken them on a school fieldtrip and jumped off a roof, she deserved to have a bad trip. If she had been responsible she would have let a sober person know she had taken them so they could watch her, and they would have prevented her from jumping off a roof. And I dont know how many people out there have ever felt like jumoing off a roof when they took mushrooms, but i have never ever wanted to cause myself harm while tripping, and i consumed over a half ounce once. the harder i tripped the more my self-preservation instinct kicked in. I completely agree with you meatwagon499, there are just some things you shouldn't do while tripping, just like there are some things you don't do while on any other drug. its really upsetting how all the vendors proposed several new laws and precautions that really would of helped only to be turned down by the government. People if you trip, please be safe. your not damaging your liver like you would with alchohol, you're fucking with your brain. some people just don't have the mental willpower.

 

Idiot thats why they are banning them, it is because stupid brits go over and get shroomed out and jump off balconys, most of their tourism is over drugs how do you think their govy feels?

 

No that doesn't mean we should ban them, Meatwagon made a good point, If a tourist came here, got drunk and killed themselves would we ban alcohol? no, and if we tried there would be riots, and i'd be damned if i didn't participate. Actually there are about 17,000 deaths associated with drunk driving every year here, compared to the 150 emergency calls made each year in the netherlands by people having bad trips. The way to address the problem is to set up more precautions like a waiting period between the purchase of shrooms. the wrong thing to do is to make the sale of mushrooms illegal which in turn makes it unregulated. just because its not legal doesn't mean they will stop being sold, people will just have to go through alot of bullshit to get ahold of them. ecstacy is illegal in amsterdam but its still the biggest producer in the world. basically all the government did was try to get out of taking responsibility for these incidents, but they aren't even going to enforce these lws i bet. who the hell would goto the netherlands if u couldn't go over there and do lots of things considered illegal elsewhere with out any worry about getting in trouble. now when u goto amsterdam u will be able to get all the mushrooms u want but who knows if they're safe? the price will jump, and criminals will receive all the beneifts of the new law.
Shrooms don't kill people. Trip responsibley and remember when things get out of hand remember its just the shrooms, and it will were off and everything will go back to normal.

 

Murat Kucuksen, whose farm Procare supplies about half the psychedelic mushrooms on the Dutch market, said he stood to lose several million euros invested in setting up his legal growing facilities.

He predicted the trade will move underground, prices will rise, and dealers will sell dried mushrooms or LSD as a substitute, with no guidance for tourists.

"So you'll have a rise in incidents but they won't be recorded as mushroom-related, and the politicians can declare victory," he said.

 

Ever since I heard the completely "original" story about a girl jumping off of a roof on them, I was pretty sure its legalization would go down hill from there anyways... They always have to blame the mushrooms instead of the people who actually do silly things on them! What a shame, I heard that marijuana isn't as legal as it used to be there either... :$

 

Haha.. yeah

I think marijuana is legaly, illegal. But its tollerated. And because the coffeeshops have a legal permit, they can't change them. BUT new coffeeshops arnt allowed to open.

But in due time the EU will probably put alot of pressure on them. Who knows.. shame..

 

Not alot of people see the whole picture like that. The average person thinks...make a law, the police enforce, done...but it can never work like that, unless you had 5 times the police force and take away various freedoms.

J.C

 

My government has turned retard.

I remember being proud of the Netherlands, free laws, nice social climate, everything was basically allowed as long as you don't bother others.

Now it's all going conservative.

 

And even that wouldn't work i think. drugs will always be there, no matter if they are illegal.

 

Unless the replaced the drugs with one big super drug that made everybody happy! =)
(like in brave new world)... that would suck though.. variation is the key ^^

 

I think it's about more than that. Think about it, Amsterdam is one of the only countries in Europe where drugs are such a free for all. In fact, you could easily say Amsterdam is the "drug capital of the world" as far as freedom is concerned.

What that basically means is they are the example that a society with drugs can work... provided the drugs are selected properly. I think they end up making a huge example for marijuana/hash and how it's not this big social evil that so many countries believe it is, they don't have have deaths related to the drug, they don't have ridiculous crime.

However when someone comes over and totally fucks the drug all up and starts causing deaths. That's a HUGE black mark on their society. The whole point is: these substances are safe enough, and people are smart enough to not have any harm come from them. However, when some dumb asses come along and ruin that... "well you get what we had here last week, which is how he wants it... so, he gets it".

Besides which, it's not like mushrooms are some mythical thing that are hard to find and can only be done in A.dam, or like you need a law for permission, or that you're going to be taken to fed. prison for being found just tripping. I'm sure there will still be plenty of mushrooms in Amsterdam.

It's all just an apeasement of the image.

 

This is so lame.
Anyone know when this is going to happen?
Such a shame, I loved Amsterdam's Smart Shops.

 

If the supplier of half of holland has a sick growing setup why doesn't he just switch to gourmet mushroom species?