To hurt or not to hurt?

Discussion in 'Ethics' started by Hari, Jun 21, 2007.

  1. Hari

    Hari Art thou Art

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    If someone has performed an injustice towards you, and transgresed the rules
    and ethics that pertain to their work, and in the process you have been abused or exploited---- as a peace maker should you take action and try to right that wrong, or instead decide to let it be, turn the other cheek,.,. even if it hurts?
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  2. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    Rigth the wrong always. Do not turn away
    Face it, and transform it.
    Even if acknowledging it, hurts
    Even if thinking about it, hurts
    Turn to face it, confront the wrong doer and tell the truth.
    You cant turn from it, oyu cannot go, it will just wait for you in front of you and not behind you.
    Things are behind you once you have faced them.
    Until you do so, htey are in front of you, blocking your way at some point, and each time you push them aside, you are in fact pushing them ahead of you, and like a garn it becomes bigger and bigger and heavier to carry and more and more difficult to push in front of you, until you finaly take it up and unknot it all and dissolve it all by taking it up.
    So it is better for you to take it up now, and be done with it.
    Unjustice, abuse of profession and ethics, must be confronted. It is you you are serving by doing so. By not doing so you acknowledge the other rigth of doing so and tear a part of your selfconfidence apart, and agree to be mistreated, and you are part of selfabuse.
    So right the wrong, it is the alone right thing to do.
    Do what is right and good for you now.
    Acknowledge your need to be free from pain and free from being abused.
    Shine again.
     
  3. Alone At Last

    Alone At Last Member

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    "I hurt myself today to see if I still feel" Johnny Cash

    In business - speak your mind and state the wrong or all will continue to be fucked up. If they don't listen or understand then you know where you stand - work accordingly.

    In personal life - pick and choose your battles.

    I find peacemakers are always doing which is unproductive and many times shit upon.
     
  4. Hari

    Hari Art thou Art

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    Revenge is sweet, forgiveness is sweeter.
     
  5. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    Undo the wrong give place for forgivness
    Revenge is for when nothing can be undone, and worse doesnt exist anymore, and better cant even be imagined. Then the peacemaker must undo the wrong.
    Forgivness is when you can love yourself again and believe that you deserve love, and the best in life. Forgivness is to forgive oneself for having made a mistake, and dont feel stupid or undeserving anymore.
    A peacemaker is when peace is achieved.
    A conflict solver is when war is in full, but he can unknot all conflicts.
    For that he needs the cooperation of all.
    As war only crave one, peace demand all.
     
  6. shaman sun

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    What if we do not react to a wrong, but simply act out of love? Reacting out of a wrong is merging with ideals, ideas, images, we have of ourselves, how we have been wronged as opposed to right - it's a sticky mess.
     
  7. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    We cannot ignore the wrong we are alive in an imperfect world. Acting out of love will still be a reaction.
    Choosing to do an act of love as a reaction to the wrong.
    But chosing to do oneself reparation by adressing the wrong is acting out od love to onself, it is also good to tell the one who did wrong that it was wrong and why, and to have him repair it, as it reinstaure the balance, and in doing so free him from bad karma.
    So all in all, doing justice and what is right, always is an act of love.
    To reestablish the balance is never the same as revenge.
    To seek harmony through constructive actions and talk is the way of balancing things back.
    You have to concretise the ideal of acting out of love, into the real situation. If it is between 2 persons, htenit is an act of love taken in its purest meaning, as pure love gesture.
    If it is between people like meployee and hte alike, it will be very distant from the original idea of ideal act of love.
    In an act of love I give you the key and show you how to free yourself so we could be togehter again.
    But i do not know if you can found the way, i only have my faith in you and my hope, and my faith in the universe and hope that all will be as entended and that all will be for the best for both of us.
    Only the amount of love, its purity, can undo any wrong, and restaure Harmony better than it was before, and add joy to our life.
     
  8. Alone At Last

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    Why would one act out love? Is this not a cope out?

    Talk is talk ... action is action --- talk is double talk when it lacks trust then passion.
    Talk is control - action speaks.
     
  9. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    We all have to communicate clearly or chaos emerge.
    What you do must be in accordance with what you say
    but who talk about lying here? or controlling?
    If you grab someone and keep him down, you are controlling by action.
    What you say is meaningless
    you hae to explain what you are talking about.
    A word can also be an action.
    To call somebody, or to say things that engage one.
    Why will one act out of love?
    because love is the alone right thing to do in this world.
     
  10. shaman sun

    shaman sun Member

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    Love is not a reaction?


     
  11. heywood floyd

    heywood floyd Banned

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    Wow... you guys sound really spaced out!
     
  12. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    Yes, we do learned once how to sustain the fly, and thats pretty much what we have been doing ever since...
    Together with travelling in space and enjoying the view of the new landscape.
     
  13. Lorna

    Lorna The Magician

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    About love being a reaction, all in the universe come out of love including the birth of the universe itself, and in this first act of love is the first action, from which all the chain of actions and reactions come from, the Primordial Causa, from which all the chain of cause and effects come from, so Love is in its essence the source of all other actions.

    From pure, to diluted, to estranged.
     
  14. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    put them in their place without stooping to their level. make sure they understand how you feel and teach them a lesson if you can do so without causing any injustice towards them. - speak your mind, tell them what you think of them, and spread the word about this person to all who may be effected by this persons behavior in the future.

    then walk away - or they might bring you down with them. if they need your advice they will come to you.

    if the person hears what you have to say and they offer you a heartfelt apology then they deserve another chance.
     
  15. repro-bait

    repro-bait a real reprobate.

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    what the heck are you all saying.....do you know?
     
  16. 3xi

    3xi Senior Member

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    we are saying a lot more than you are thats for sure.

    lol... a little over your head maybe?
     

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