- Entity behind the eyes -

So if you've encountered the intelligent
energy behind the veil of reality, which
most of you probably have (I hope haha)
what are your thoughts on it?
Is that God?
Is that aliens teaching us?
Elves?
Because I really dont know anymore.
I tend to think it's the tip of the bottomless
iceberg of God, or whatever name you want
to give this energy, chi, prana, conciousness,
cosmic conciousness, etc.
Definitley is beyond language, we all know
that, but what are we to learn and take away
from this encounter, beyond deeper appreciation
for all things natural and in and out of tune?

 

It really doesn't matter how you call it if you don't belive in it!

And if you belive in it, you don't need to call it, or it doesn't matter how others call it!

Also if you belive in it, you know what it is!

Also if you don't belive in it, why do you need me to tell you what it is!

 

Yea, I guess its something that can not be
understood with speculation, only objective
experience. And when you experience it,
over and over again, closer and deeper with
each experience,it goes beyond matters of
belief really. But most confusing it is definitley,
sometimes it kills you, sometimes it heals you,
but I tend to gather that everything it does
to you is born out of love, like tomatos growing
in the sun, and bodies decomposing in the forest.

 

i was just thinking about this, and sorry to de-rail it a little bit, but i had a thought...

we have these tools to go into the entity's worlds and butt into whatever they are doing, and we ask questions sometimes, and get answers sometimes... but it's funny how if we really believe all of it, we don't make any effort to invite the entities into our world the same way that they've allowed us into theirs.

i don't think there is just one entity... i mean, if you go deep enough, in an infinite ultimate sense, it's all one entity. but when you're talking to something i don't think it's the same every time, or it's "god", but i think it is real...

 

There is no their or our world, its all one. If you use what you learned on your trips in normal life, you will see that those entities are always with you, on drugs or without it. If you can't "see" this, than you didn't learn enough and well.

 

Prism do you sort of mean like, an astral plane?
Or perhaps another layer of a plane somewhere
in between the material plane and the others?
Because this one trip I had, studying a picture
of Parvati, definitley felt at certain points that
I was contacting past lives and sort of, dream
drifting through level's of ascension that are
described by theosophists and hindu's, only
I found out after the trip that what I experienced
was exactly what Yogananda, Yukteswar, Besant,
and several others have painted the picture of
progression through the planes, buddhic, nirvanic,
causal/mental, astral, etc. like.

 

Yea I dont think this is a matter of not realizing
the oneness of the Light, I think this is a matter
that no matter how advanced mentally one may
be, there is a perceived seperation between the
planes of reality, and the mind of the majority
of human beings tends to block the full-time
connection with all different realities. None of us
are so far beyond the ego that we are 'dead'
already, and maybe you are that advanced, but
to say that one hasent learned well, or enough,
tends to tell me that you arent, because it is
not about 'learning', it is about un-learning and
instead being. As in perfect being. As in Sat Chit
Ananda :tongue: But to each their own, I dont
want this to be an argument about how enlightened
we all are or are not, but rather a collection of
opinions on the entity perceived rather naturally
on psychedelic mushrooms.

 

i know that i can't exist in two opposing absolute realities at once. maybe you can. but the best that i can do is know that opposing realities can exist simultaneously, and that it's possible to go back and forth between them.

i don't think the entities are always with me any more than i think i am always with them. i think that there probably is a sentient god, that is omniscient, omnipresent, and omnipotent, but this is not who i'm contacting. i'm contacting something that is more like myself, but it's so alien that i'm in awe of it. and it's advanced in ways that i'm not, and knows things that i don't.

what it seems like you're saying would also mean that there is no my world and your world. and there obviously is the perception that there is, and the perception of it makes it real, or else we couldn't be talking about it. whether you believe it or not, the concept exists. so by what you've said, you and i are always together. but my experience is that we're in entirely different paradigms. not that one is higher and one is lower, but they are not the same. maybe fractally, or infinitely, but not in the mundane day-to-day sense.

 

well, every experience is different... and i don't really know...
i would say it's more like an alternate dimension than a different plane, but i'm not sure what the distinction is.

i'll have to remember to ask next time.

 

Ok I guess my view on this is different in a
way, because while I have had experiences
where I felt that I was contacting entities
in the plural, the majority of my contacts
where with an unspeakable One entity.
And the last time I made this contact was
in by far the most meaningful and at the
same time frightening manner, and I can say
that I was DIRECTLY learning from God, but
what I learned was so painfuly overwhelming
that it nearly scared me out of ever trying
to go that deep again.
I realize that we all go through personal
contacts here, but what I am getting at, and
I in NO WAY mean to come off as higher than
anyone in any way, is that I felt at the time that
I had touched the 2nd to the last layer of what
is covering the core to the explanation and source
of all that there is. Laugh if you want, seriously,
its beyond funny, but at first it felt like I was
poisened, I thought immediatley that we had eaten
bad mushrooms and in that moment had I not been
physically and mentally paralyzed I was ready to
call the ambulance. Then my girlfriend and I both
felt our blood cease flowing, the organs shut down
one by one, and when the death had occured, the
learning process of ascension begun. But what happened
afterwards was so bizzare and alien, yet so natural
and familiar at the same time, that I could never even
begin to understand it.
It's funny, this is why I bring it up, because we all
see it differently, and most of my other expereinces
with it had been Om realization, prana or chi perception,
etc. But this was the Big One, and I guess I will either
be looked at as egotistical or insane by most people,
though I could really care less.
What happened that night turned a firm devotee into
a living light who had experienced death truly, not ego
death, but physical, painful, hellish death, and to even
hear people say that God in some manner does not
exist is just no longer worth considering anymore.
I am not enlightened, nor even close to perfect, but
what happened to me was so unexpected and beautiful
and I know I wasnt ready for it.
But really, are we ever ready for anything? :tongue:

 

"it's always too much too soon, that's the nature of the beast"

i didn't mean that i don't think it's possible to contact the Big One ... i meant, my experiences where it's been more like "hanging out" than shattering my heart with overwhelming transcendental realization, i don't think those guys are god in a different sense than i think i am god, my floor is god, the air molecules are god.

god has to include everything...

maybe it'd be easier to think of them as demigods, although they're a little too weird to be a literal translation... but what i was talking about is when you can meet an entity and find out what specific part it plays in keeping the universe running. and those experiences play a role in kismet the same way the cashier at the store or the commercial on tv do... so it's still a divine contact, but it might not know to what degree at every moment...

does that make sense? i'm mostly talking about salvia entities since i've spent time with them more than the others . maybe that's the difference?

 

Wow It's funny because we said we wouldnt
talk about this since we know how it would
be perceived and misunterstood, yet there I
went, trying to explain something that nearly
made my head explode haha.
Sorry for anyone reading that last post of mine
who gets a wrong idea, I really dont mean to
come off as rude or say I found God and no one
else has. Some things are better left unsaid, I
cant really tell if this is one of them. Or at least
it's better explained in person, so I can use my
hands and my mouth for the whirring sounds

 

Prism, I think I may have touched the root of what
goddess Parvati stands for initially, but then moved
into the whole creation scheme. I remember at first,
right before the poison sensation settled in, I was
splitting atoms in between my fingers, and reality
ripped in half in my hands, but the last time I checked,
much prana is emanating from out of hands, so Im
thinking I possible got lost in a prana steam, found the
divine Mother, and the Father kicked my ass for looking
for info that I shouldnt have been requesting.
Curiosity killed the cat though, and I did try to catch
this one cat with a non-existant fishing rod

 

Maybe it's God teaching us through Alien elves ? lol.. no, but seriously,
Well I remember that trip, in fact I think about it all the time, because I really wish I could explain to anybody what I felt and I cant. It's really nondescriptly, whenever I try to use words to share my experience with someone but you John, I get this confused feeling and I just give up, because I guess I dont completely understand what I felt, but I KNOW what I felt and that is now a reality I carry with me. It shapes me as a person and I think, like prismatism said, that we have these tools that are given to us and this is what is going to help us see through things and go beyond, but the figuring out how this tools work and what exactly are they for, is yet to be known.
I guess to me that trip was too much information in so little time and now I need to break it down and really take it in. It's like feeling pain in your hand, you know it's real, you can feel it, but we usually dont know why and I guess that why is what we are here for.

 

hahaa I remember this
and remember how the cats were so with us throughout our whole trip? Cats know what's up.

 

Yea! And cats have always known whats up

 

what do you think happens when we figure it ALL out?
and I'm talking about complete understanding (if at all possible)

 

Good question. I believe that our lifetime is very small to figure it all out and there is noone who will. From all that we have experienced my conclusion is to respect the life that is given to you and to the others as it is there for a higher reason than the perception of one individual.
And for the naming: its impossible to find one unique name as that is also depending on the experiences one has.

 

I think this is a really difficult topic to discuss considering that it can't really be described. I have certainly not gone so deep in, but from what I have experienced I could certainly not think about what something is without having words for it. Maybe a cat can tell you! Really though, Im thinking of Terence mckennas description of the language of DMT elves, how it takes a visible form and represents so much.


By the way john, I like your new sig pic, did you draw it?

 

exactly, I just feel so uneasy whenever I try to explain it, like it cant be done, but we can always try, trying is fun.
Sometimes I just wish I could just dig in, grab it with my hands, push it inside someone else and say "See?! Now you understand", but I cant do that...