CNN covers NAU, the Amero & NAFTA superhighway

Author Jerome Corsi was on Glenn Beck's show on CNN yesterday discussing the plans for a North American Union, standardized currency and NAFTA superhighway stretching from Mexico to Canada.


http://ianschwartz.com/2007/10/25/video-corsi-on-the-threat-of-a-north-american-currency/

 

How long are people going to continue to deny this stuff?

 

People who live in denial always deny what's in front of their faces.

 

What I'm wondering is how these pricks are passing all these bills without even addressing the people. I thought this shit was a Democracy people? When was the last time you voted on a bill? Just because you pick a President and you get to pick (hypothetically speaking of course) your senators and congressmen, that shouldn't mean that we shouldn't vote on the laws. This is some silly, crazy shit.

Every time they wanna pass some new bill or alter our way of life in some drastic way they should have to address the people first and get our approval. Explain to us why they're doing it and ask us if we approve. This is our country goddamn it. Nah, fuck that, this is our world. These governments act like it's natural that humanity is segregated from one another into all these stupid ass nations under various forms of the same oppressive imperialism.

 

Congress is being left out in the dark on all this and no bills have been passed. This is all being done without congressional oversight -- not like it would really matter anyways, since the majority of Congress has been paid off and is working for the globalists. That's why you have the Democrats, who the public are lead to believe pose a real opposition to the Republicans, in almost complete lockstep with the Republicans. The American people have no say in anything and the two wings belong to the same bird.

 

This may be a bit off topic for this thread...but actually it isn't.This is a scary issue which shows us just how screwed up this country is and the time is now for the people to stand up and be heard and take this country back from the power hungry jackals,that are under the protection of the "dubya" regime.People NOW is the time to get registered to vote and use that right to eradicate these death mongers.There is a major grass roots movement sweeping across the country promoting and attempting to get Ron Paul elected to save this country.I highly recommend everybody find a local meet up group or start your own,to get out there and educate the sheople and campaign for this man.The main stream political groups are running scared right now.Another reason the media is playing such a blackout game with this movement.They have realized he is a force to be reckoned with.So if this NAFTA and the Amero is a concern to you,then get out there in the political battleground and fight for our right to have a say in this issue.Now is the time to be heard....not after the fact when it will only be a voice of bitching and complaint,which will not correct a thing.I am not a party politics player...and unfortunantly Ron Paul is running on the Republician ticket,and is taking the arena by storm.But the main stream media channels are surpressing these facts.You may not agree with all his ideas,but you cannot deny the fact that he wants to give this country back to the people,and get back to the U.S. Constitution...which this country was founded on.I cannot stress the point enough,our individual votes are needed,in this corrupt system more than ever.If we can't stop this "goose-stepping"madness which is sweeping it's way across the country.It is only a matter of time before "hawks" start using sites such as hips,as a round up list.We will find ourselves in a Canadian or Mexican prison,since america is prison saturated,I can only imagine the plans they have for out of country detention centers for "terrorists"i.e. anybody who opposes their plans.The time is NOW,I cannot emphize this enough,get active,get registered to vote,and when the time comes...get out and vote .Let's wipe the slate clean,regain our rights,and take this country back from the political pigs.At least check the man out and decide for yourself http://www.ronpaul2008.com/issues/ but anybody that has their eyes open,knows that we cannot hang by our fingertips,for much longer.Then it will be too late.

 

Is this the same Corsi that called Islam a "a worthless, dangerous Satanic religion" and said that "Ragheads are Boy-Bumpers as clearly as they are Women-Haters -- it all goes together"? I think it is. Of course I pointed out to you that Corsi is a deranged racist a long time ago, good to know you still are a big fan of his work.

Yet this is also the same Corsi that coauthored A Showdown with Nuclear Iran: Radical Islam's Messianic Mission to Destroy Israel and Cripple the United States with Michael D. Evans in 2006. Doesn't Rat tells us the globalist controlled media wants us to be afraid of Iran. Is Corsi a globalist? Doesn't this mean Rat is a globalist too?

Rat are you building a highway in Texas and getting paid in Ameros?

 

Is that all you can do is resort to petty diversions and attacking the messenger in a feeble attempt to avoid having to acknowledge what is fact? It's clear you cannot refute anything Corsi has said, so you simply resort to your usual tactic of attempting to marginalize in hope that people will read what you wrote and throw the baby out with the bathwater. Obviously I don't agree with everything Corsi has said and has written about. However, his research on the NAU is well-researched and irrefutable, as he has the documents to back up what he claims and has attended several of the SPP meetings. (That is, the ones actually open to the media.)

You can attempt to deny, distract and distort all you want. It means very little to people what YOU think when the evidence clearly speaks for itself.

However, I do commend you for acknowledging the government and its lapdog media's use of fear over a non-existent threat from Iran.

 

Rat, Pepik does have a point. If the messenger has a history of outragious claims, it makes taking anything he says hard to swallow, whether it is true or not.

I also have a question for you Rat. What is your specific objection to the NAU?
I am not saying I support it, I would just like to know what it is about the NAU that you personally find objectionable.

 

It has nothing to do with the topic at hand, and therefore is just another cheap diversion because Pepik has no facts other than for the "facts" he read in the last William Kristol article about how we need to nuke Iran. The neoconservatives who Pepik worships are some of the most racist and hateful people on the planet, who have called for the creation of race-specific bioweapons that target only certain ethnicities. So maybe Pepik should look at himself and the ideology he embraces before he accuses other people of being racist. And as I stated already, Corsi has attended several SPP meetings and his claims can be backed up with documentation he has acquired. Everything Corsi talks about can be confirmed by other sources. But why should I have to defend Corsi when we are talking about his research regarding the North American Union, not something he may or may not have said five years ago?

As far as the NAU, it's just the continuation of what began with the move to create a unified Europe after WWII. It's about the centralization of power based on so-called free trade (which isn't free), and the end result is a one world fascist dictatorship. So if you think the US Constitution is a bad thing and that more power should be in the hands of fewer people, then you might support a world government. After all, it sounds good at face value, until you realize the people who are quietly pushing for it and what their agenda is for humanity.

People will never really wake up to what's going on as long as they keep following partisan politics and falling for the scripted Left vs. Right debate. Politics are staged because beyond politics is an agenda that never veers off script, no matter who is elected into power.

Lastly, if the NAU is sooo good, why have so few people heard about it, and why all the secrecy?

 

And you know that a economic and security union with Canada and Mexico will result in a "New World Order"? Who is in control? What theory of the NWO to you espouse? With whom is the power centralized? What is the "agenda"? What proof do you have that the political parties are in league with each other to bring all this about?

I do not doubt that there are some powerful people who support a NWO. Historically, many in power have espoused it, however they have all had their own ideas on how it should come about and how it should be run.

Americas own ineptitude in handling foreign relations should lead to a conclusion that in order for this NWO to occur, the first thing to go would have to be those currently making the decisions.

Again, I am not saying that the NAU is good for America, however I do question your logic.

 

America is not a Democracy, it is a Representative Republic. It was set up that way to prevent "majority rules". It prevents a majority from oppressing a minority. Doesn't always work, but it is how the constitution is written.

 

The same people who formulated and administered the EU are the same people working in secrecy to formulate the NAU, and it's these people and the non-governmental organizations and unelected bureaucracies they belong to, which are working -- without the public's knowledge or consent -- to bring about this one world government, as many of these elites have openly admitted this agenda in various publications. To those with eyes to see, it is clear things are moving in that direction.

You ask who is in control, which is a very important question as many people believe their so-called "elected officials" are the ones in charge. However, this is never the case. The people who are visible to the public eye are merely the frontmen for those who exist behind the scenes, who formulate policy through unelected NGO's such as the Council on Foreign Relations, which, if you look at the current administration, is riddled with CFR members. This accounts for most presidencies, and every president of the past 40 years, with the exception of Reagan, has been a member of this organization. The CFR features members of BOTH political parties, which brings me to another question you asked, which I will get to in a moment.

Behind all the NGO's and unelected bureaucracies, which are behind our "elected officials," are the central banks, multinational corporations, and the old monied families (ie. the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, etc), which have held power for, in some instances thousands of years. It's these people who call the shots, and it's these people our elected officials must answer to through the unelected bureacracies above them. These people were behind the creation of the United Nations, which was created to become the coming world government under this New World Order. It is the United Nations where global power is centralized, and the US is simply being used as a temporary vehicle to usher in this new system. Once the US has served its purpose over in the Middle East, it will topple under the weight of its own debt. This has even been admitted by people like Jacques Attali, who helped to spearhead the EU, in his book Millenium: Winners and Losers in the Coming World Order (1992).

The agenda of this global elite is to bring about a one world dictatorship administered through scientific socialism but fascistic at the top. They want to eliminate all national sovereignty, replacing independence with interdependence. They want to eliminate all free thought from the individual and create a more efficient form of slave to serve what they see as their coming utopia on earth. This will coincide with a massive reduction of the global population, and this too has been openly admitted by numerous elites. I understand this is hard to swallow for the average person, who is used to getting all their information from "official" sources, which of course are all government controlled. The only news the public receives is the news they want the public to receive.

You asked about the political parties and how they are the same. To me, it should be quite obvious that the two parties are virtually identical, and a good example of this is when voters elected the Democrats to control Congress and the Senate. The public was hoping for a change and an end to the war, but this hasn't happened as the Democrats continue to roll over for Bush, who they are supposedly at odds with... as they would like you to believe.

In his book, Tragedy and Hope (1966), Carroll Quigley, who was a historian for the CFR and a mentor to Bill Clinton at Georgetown (he also selected Clinton for the Rhodes scholarship), wrote that both parties should be almost identical. That way, once the public gets sick of one party, they can "throw the rascals out" in place of the other party and the agenda would not change. This is exactly what we have today, and it's all the more obvious when you realize money is being funneled into both parties by the same multinational corporations who do in fact control the political system in this country. Democracy is merely the illusion they use to keep you believing that you have a choice and that your vote counts.

You talk about US ineptitude in dealing with foreign relations, but did it ever occur to you that it was planned this way? Under the coming system, there can be no world superpowers, and the US must be toppled once it is done serving its purpose to the internationalists. One of the things they must do is destroy the country's once good name -- here and abroad -- so I have no doubt that everything that is happening was planned that way, because they know that once enough people become fed up with the US and its apparent bullying, they will literally demand for a one world government, clamoring to the UN to save them with their already planned solution.

 

"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost 40 years........It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subjected to the lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supernational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national autodetermination practiced in past centuries."


-- David Rockefeller to Trilateral Commission in 1991

"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure – one world, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."


-- David Rockefeller, from his own book, Memoirs.

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences.

"The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank . . . sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."


-- Carroll Quigley, "Tragedy and Hope", 1966, pg. 324

"Today, America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."


-- Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference in Evians, France, 1991

 

This is true, and you have to ask yourself why it is continuously beat into our heads that the US is a democracy. Democracy in latin translates to "mob rule."

 

I see where you have gotten your beliefs. But you have proven nothing other than what I have said. Some powerful people would love to see a NWO. But even you would have to admit that the Bilderbergs, the Trilaterals, The Council of Foreign Relations, The House of Windsor (per Lyndon Larouche), etc, all have a differing view on what it should be. If they want it at all.

So who is in charge? You give inferences to "they". Who are they?

There is so much crap going on in the world. Our President and his cronies are eroding our rights. A war is being fought to make some people richer. These conspiracy theories distract from the true problems in our world. The people behind our real problems must love it when you spend time chasing black helicopters and "chem trails". Distraction always works better than denial.

BTW, Democracy is Greek, not Latin. Translation demos, "people, the mob, the many and kratos "rule" or "power". Republic is Latin for "public matter" or "public thing".

 

same people, same circles.

that's why they are known as the elites.

it's amazing, you tell a "lefty" that a small group of corporate CEOs and bigots rule the world(or are close to doing so) at the people's expense and he agrees with you and wants to use government and labor to fight them.

You tell a "righty" that a small group of government leaders and special interest groups rule the world(or are close to doing so) at the people's expense and he believes you and wants to use business and a call to "traditional values" to fight them.

You tell either one of them who you believe those people are based on their words and actions and they mock you.

I (and i think pressed_rat as well) believe the distraction is in piting "lefty" against "righty", when the corporate CEOs, the leaders of organized labor, the government leaders ect are the same people or are no more than 2 degrees of seperation from each other.

They are all to blame.

I mean, jeez, when your baseball team loses every tuesday and your rivals team loses every friday, don't you think it might have something to do with the owners of the baseball teams meeting on sundays to split the ticket sales?

 

Yes, democracy is a Greek word, which is what I meant to say.

As far as your belief that these various groups all have their own agenda, well, it might appear that way. However, if you had studied these groups, as I have done, it wouldn't appear that way at all. All interlock with each other and are working openly towards global governance. If you understood the compartmentalized fashion in which this system is set up, you would realize that at the top it's all the same people, and I have already given you some idea of who these people are. Whether it's the CFR, Bilderberg, or Trilateral Commission, they are operational fronts for the same few global elites at the top, which is why you will notice some people who are members of ALL these groups. For instance, David Rockefeller.

Bush is a puppet. He does nothing he isn't told to do. So to think the president holds the ultimate power and makes all the important decisions, is to be rather clueless as to how the system is run, and is no better than people who chase black helicopters. Instead of chasing black helicopters, they chase all the left wing talking points that are put out there deliberately to give them their opinions and keep their minds trapped within a box where everything is left vs. right. Bush doesn't formulate policy, and neither do most in his cabinet. Foreign policy is formulated by NGO's, such as the Council on Foreign Relations, which is then implemented through frontmen like George Bush. Once Hillary takes office, she will carry out the same exact agenda, because she works for the same elites Bush does.

If you think these wars (which were planned over a decade ago) are being fought to make money, it shows even more that you don't really know what you're talking about, as the people mandating these wars -- the central banking elites -- could not care less about money. They print the money out of nothing, so they are the creators of wealth. What these people want is control and power. At a certain level it is about making money, but that's the lower-level people who are implementing this agenda for the hidden hand that exists outside of the public eye.

The wars being fought in the Middle East are designed to bring the remaining holdouts under the same fiat money system that controls the West. This is necessary for a world government because all countries must be under the same standardized control. Oil and money have little to do with it, but this is what the controlled left wing media will tell you because they don't care much for truth, but rather making sure people don't learn too much to the point they might actually become a threat to the system they only believe they pose an opposition to. So left wing politics are really aimed at neutralizing people critical of the system, by giving them some bits of truth, but not enough that they will know who or what they are fighting. This is why you hear people highly critical of Bush, never realizing that it's the people behind him who hold the real power, and will continue to hold this power long after he is out of office.

 

I'll tell you what I find objectionable about the whole SPP thing.

It's being done behind closed doors in secret by privately appointed businessmen, without the input of the three countries involved citizens or duly elected governments.

 

I know that. I was being satirical. America is supposedly spreading Democracy overseas and yet America isn't even a Democracy. That was the point. You have Americans spouting off, "Democracy for the world!"

:lol:

Nevermind

It didn't quite work out the way I had hoped.