yeah swim is going to a bup doctor tomorrow and would like to here some personal experiences with suboxone or subutex. swim is trying to kick a 240mg oxy habit for like the billionth time, no for real swims done it all. swim also failed to mention that he bangs his oxys wit da spoon and a point. the reason i say that is because swim heard u can do this with subutex not suboxone because of the presence of naloxone. this could be a bad temptation for swim. on the other hand swim read where people have got really depressed after using suboxone for a long time but didnt have this problem with subutex. swims taken suboxone in the past when there was absolutely nothing else swim could get his hands on. but never habitually. please share if u have experience
dude ill tell u right now ur not gonna be "high" while on the subs, they are a great drug if u wanna get off OC and out of that cycle...and part of gettin out of that cycle is being "Euphoric and faded" all the time. I remember when i first took subs i felt normal again for the first time in a long time....it works good if u want off
If suboxone does not work look for a Methadone clinic in your area, Methadone was the only thing that helped me kick Herion and stay clean and get my life together.
yeah but methadone withdrawals are worse then heroin or oxy withdrawals cuz methadone w/d's last like a month!! mdone=bad stuFF!! go with the Suboxone
so yeah i crawled into the doctors office today, literally! i hadnt dosed in like 2 days! he gave me an 8mg suboxone to suck on and i was basically worshipping him in like 15 minutes. neways im definately not high but i feel great. im gonna stick this thing out and hopefully work it off over about 2 months, well thats my plan. hes got me started on 16mgs a day. i couldnt believe how expensive they were at the pharm. i guess its just hard for me to hand over hundreds of dollars for something that wont even fuck me up, but its still by far cheaper than my habit. and about methadone, subcontiously thats what i wanted to do just because i would still get a liittle feeling from it but i had to kick that shit cold turkey in a nonnarcotic detox/rehab one time and i didnt sleep like 3 weeks. i went from 80mgs a day to nothing that was worse than death. im glad it works for some im just ready to be through with all of it. it would be nice to kick this thing and be able to do some h or oxys on the weekend but damn i end up in the same boat every time. im in love with opiates!!!fuck - thanks for the advice
an 80mg a day habit isn't that bad in my experiences. I have seen people do lines of 40's every hour on the hour for about 5 hours straight. I was also in the same room with someone who enjoys smoking oxy, which is the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Not to mention the smell of burning chemicals that shouldn't be burning. I can easily do an 80mg a day binge for 2 weeks and then stop "cold-turkey" by using small therapeutical doses of clonazepam and immense doses of marijuana. Honestly, I don't find it that bad. For the depression I get from withdrawl, I use 100mg of 5-HTP two-three times daily to lift my mood and increase my willpower. Combine those methods with physical activity (it has to be something you like) or lots of video games, and you will come off a heavy oxy habit within at most 2-3 weeks. I usually stop experiencing withdrawl within about 2-3 days of stopping cold turkey after an oxy binge. My withdrawl symptoms also aren't as severe as I've heard and read about. I'm lucky I guess.
TWIZZ i was talking about mdone when i went cold turkey on 80mgs. i was on 240mgs of oxy this past time. i would consider mdone to have tougher withdraws though just because they seem to last longer. and dude when people talk about opiate withdrawals normally they are speaking of long term usage like months or years, not a fukin benge. its not just some mental bullshit. im talkin about a daily habit, not being able to move in the morning to go to work without them. do it everyday like a slave for years, base ur life around it. if u dont =no sleeping, no eating, bubble guts 24-7, totally worthless!flopping around like a fish in the bed... yeah im not not talking about partying for 2 weeks...having a spoon and works under ur bed ready for the morning
thats addiction for ya its a bitch aint it i know it sucks to go through withdrawals but believe me when theyre finally over youll be glad you bit the bullet and didnt give up. as for which meds to take i couldnt tell you but what i will say is(and this goes to all opiate users with a tolerance) that you either decide to kick your addiction or you dont their is no half assing it. once youve reached the point of shooting oxys daily you are ADDICTED this is a DISEASE which affects every aspect of your life mentally or physically. you have to make a choice kick all opiates forever by any means neccesary or allow yourself to fall victim to your own temptations and continue your slow suicide until you have nothing left and die. believe me youll NEVER EVER EVER be able to kick your habit and enjoy opiates on the weekend that is a fantasy that you will NEVER fullfill in your life and everytime you entertain the notion youll only be digging yourself deeper. some people simply cant use these recreationally it will destroy them. and whoever said its easy to kick an 80 mg habit is a fool that may be the case in their experience but everyones different i know several people personally that said quitting a daily dose of no more than 30 mg hydrocodone after six months was the hardest thing they ever did in their life. to say kicking any drug habit is easy even marijuana is underestimating the power of addiction. not to mention you picked one of the most intensely addictive drugs. their is a reason china went to war with the most powerful nation in the world to stop them from destroying their peoples lives by selling them opiates. you obviously have a problem and once you get past withdrawals you have to make a concious decision to NEVER use opiates again, basically equate sticking a needle in ur arm to sticking a gun in ur mouth and blowing your head off. youll only kick your habit if you want to never use opiates again if you plan on just kicking for a little while to lower ur tolerance then the disease just hasnt hurt u enough YET for u to realize wat ur playing with. if u truly do want to kick your habit then my advice is get to an outpatient at least and maybe try methadone clinic. im sorry about the long post i just hope everything goes ok with u bro peace
dont listen to him about going to a methadone clinic to 'get well'. methadone is the worst opiate u can take, the withdrawals from it last LONG (like a month) and its way worse then w/d's from oxy.. If u want to get off the oxy then go to a Suboxone Dr. and get that shit, it will literally save ur life and make the detox much much easier AS LONG AS U USE THE SUBS the right way and im talkin like u need to get down to 0.5mgs Buprenorphine every other day then jump off after u can do it like once every 3 days...
