Yup! This is why the US & Israel have keep quiet about what happened. The US sent jets into Syria armed with tactical nukes, completely destroying their "nuclear project" whatever that might've been. Israeli jets rode along, but didn't attack. The US attacked yet another sovereign country, with no input from Congress, keeping it secret, censoring news media in both the US and Israel from reporting these details! This is such BUSHIT! So basically the US (Bush) has now declared war on Syria without anyone knowing it. http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1192380718519&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull The reason the Jerusalem Post can report this now is that they are just quoting another source from another country. THEY KNOW THIS TO BE TRUE, but obviously cannot report it themselves as fact because they are under censorship! IMPEACH BUSH NOW! ATTENTION: THIS ARTICLE HAS NOW BEEN CENSORED BY ISRAELI NEWS MEDIA! USAF struck Syrian nuclear site Nov 2, 2007 Jerusalem Post The September 6 raid over Syria was carried out by the US Air Force, the Al-Jazeera Web site reported Friday. The Web site quoted Israeli and Arab sources as saying that two US jets armed with tactical nuclear weapons carried out an attack on a suspected nuclear site under construction. The sources were quoted as saying that Israeli F-15 and F-16 jets provided cover for the US planes. The sources added that each US plane carried one tactical nuclear weapon and that the site was hit by one bomb and was totally destroyed. At the beginning of October, Israel's military censor began to allow the local media to report on the raid without attributing their report to foreign sources. Nevertheless, details of the strike have remained clouded in mystery. On October 28, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the cabinet that he had apologized to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan if Israel violated Turkish airspace during a strike on an alleged nuclear facility in Syria last month. In a carefully worded statement that was given to reporters after the cabinet meeting, Olmert said: "In my conversation with the Turkish prime minister, I told him that if Israeli planes indeed penetrated Turkish airspace, then there was no intention thereby, either in advance or in any case, to - in any way - violate or undermine Turkish sovereignty, which we respect." The New York Times reported on October 13 that Israeli planes struck at what US and Israeli intelligence believed was a partly constructed nuclear reactor in Syria on September 6, citing American and foreign officials who had seen the relevant intelligence reports. According to the report, Israel carried out the report to send a message that it would not tolerate even a nuclear program in its initial stages of construction in any neighboring state. On October 17, Syria denied that one of its representatives to the United Nations told a panel that an Israeli air strike hit a Syrian nuclear facility and added that "such facilities do not exist in Syria." A UN document released by the press office had provided an account of a meeting of the First Committee, Disarmament and International Security, in New York, and paraphrased an unnamed Syrian representative as saying that a nuclear facility was hit by the raid. However, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency, SANA said media reports, apparently based on a UN press release, misquoted the Syrian diplomat.
That's evidently not enough yet. So the US has also just attacked Pakistan with a missile strike (which they deny of course). http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=4731
I believe in something when it explains the unexplained, which this does very nicely... It explains the unprecedented silence on this issue. It explains why both the US & Israel have both been mum. It explains why the US gave the secret US air force codes to the Israelis the day before the attack (this was reported in the news). It explains why the US was given a green light for operations over Israeli territory a couple of days before the attack. (also reported in the news) It explains why none of the information about this alleged Syrian installation was ever made public before the attack (there would've been a public debate over what to do about it, and the US might've been hamstrung if Congress made a pre-emptive move against a strike against Syria). I could go on, but when one explanation suffices to explain all these events, it's most like the true explanation. And the fact that the Jerusalem Post reported it (they would be required to verify facts before reporting a rumor, right?), means it must be true because the Israeli press KNOWS what happened, but aren't being allowed to report it. They have only been reporting what other foreign presses report so they are not breaking the restriction upon Israeli media. That alone is the most convincing fact. BTW, I have yet to read ONE report from the Debka file website that has been falsified, and I check them everyday. I don't report bullshit like others do on this website. Look at the news reports I post up. Do they read like lies? Why do you question me? It's not like I make this shit up. It's being reported by major news organization who supposedly check their facts. You got a problem, you bring it up with them. One more thing. The Israelis would've been touting this successful attack if they had actually carried it out themselves. Why? Because it restores the perceived balance of power which Israel lost after the last Lebanon war. It also illustrates the bad intent of Syria who never acknowledged the facility existed in violation of the Nuclear non-proliferation treaty, which would win Israel support in the world community. Israel needs exactly such a boost in self-confidence to shore up its own morale. But Israel doesn't deserve any back-slapping if they didn't do the actual bombing themselves, which is apparently the case, regardless of the assistance they provided the US airforce. Whereas the US and Bush have NOTHING to gain if this leaks out because it's just another instance of Bush running wild, creating his own foreign policy without any input from the rest of the US gov't. It's another instance of the US resorting to force, rather than diplomacy. It's another instance of the US keeping the truth away from the public, Congress and the world. It's another instance of American imperialism trumping every International treaty that gets in its way. It's another instance of the US breaking International law and American laws.
Why would Syria not want to publicise to the world that they had been attacked with nuclear weapons? It would be an easy thing to prove. Also, the US did not "attack Pakistan", they attacked militants based in Pakistan, militants the US, Afghanistan, and Pakistan are all fighting. I would think with Pakistan's permission. I'm not suprised they deny it and I would expect Pakistan to deny it too, officially.
Who said they were attacked with nuclear weapons? That has not been established yet. I don't think they were needed because there was no underground "bunker" as far as I have learned. I'm leaning towards no-nukes in the attack because they cleaned up the site very fast. If it had been a nuke, they'd all have had to use radiation suits for the cleanup and it would've taken much longer to accomplish (although all they did was push dirt over the hole.) Sending a missile to a foreign country isn't exactly tourism, is it? What a stupid statement to make, Pepik. Notice the reaction today in Pakistan to the current events there... http://apnews.myway.com/article/20071103/D8SM89O80.html Situation normal, eh?
If this is true it's criminal on the part of the those who authorized it. We can't white wash or lie our way out of it using the phony "war on terrorism" and wmd to justify unwarranted military action by a handful of elite without knowledge of the congress, or the citizens of our nation. Bush and Cheney may believe the US is an oligarchy ruled by themselves and their friends. But wreaking death and destruction without following constitutional due course may eventually be their downfall. Not to mention the horrendous additional expense to the taxpayer in the form of an escalated war campaign. Think how those trillions of dollars could be better spent staving off the phantom threat of global warming.
You said it. But I didn't call it tourism, what is your point? The Taliban and Al Queda are a common enemy for the US and the government of Pakistan. Why would Musharraf not, secretly, allow the US to attack their bases using capabilities he does not have? Who said the situation was normal?
Actually Skip was talking about the bombing on Sept. 06 that was in the past attributed to the Israelis. What happens if it now turns out it was the US? We entered war with Iraq based on Colin Powell's pictures of porta potties. Now we bomb another country based on an non existent/invisible nuclear plant?
I wouldn't put it past bush to do something like this but the information and article came from the Al-Jazeera Web site. it wouldn't be any trouble at all to verify even with a 'small' tactical nuke, radiation and seismic activity would verify this. The USAF could have used a bunkerbuster small tactical nuke, under 5 kiloton. Even if he was making a nuke power plant, for "peaceful purposes", to leave it a raditation mess would help his case for American agression in the region. That being said, I doubt it was hit with nukes. the USAF can deploy variable yield nukes on fighters such as the F-15E and F-16 block 60.
Skip never said that nuclear missiles were used, only that the aircraft that bombed the site were armed with nuclear warheads. My question is if we did this why are we hiding the fact? Are we waiting until after the election?
I really agree with this blogger: http://westvirginiaholler.blogspot.com/2007/11/us-bombed-syria-not-israel-says.html
Sorry, that's guys thesis doesn't hold water. The JPost released the info because it's a BOMBSHELL (almost literally). It's such a bombshell and they've had to SIT ON IT for two months now because of the news blackout of the incident. The ONLY reason they were even able to release the info is because Al-Jazzera did it first. The Israelis, as I said are very much aware of what happened. I'd think if it WASN'T true there would be a TON of denials already in the media. Have you seen even ONE denial? This shows very clearly HOW CENSORED AMERICA'S media is today, when ONE FUCKING ISSUE can be so censored that 99% of America doesn't even have a clue their country just attacked another and has kept it top secret for 2 months!!!
Uh, did it not cross your mind that that action violated at least a dozen international treaties and at least as many US laws?
Why would North Korea protest an Israeli strike on Syria? Turkey identified the planes as IAF, if they were US planes Turkey would surely make it known. So, the US is guilty of everything they dont deny?
I dont see why the country/countries that were attacked would not make sure the information hit the web. In a day of cell phones (i.e. the hanging of Saddam) ect surely somebody in the area well before this would have had a chance to photograph something and offer prior proof especially the country that was attacked. Hell why did they not post pictures on here? Obviously they would have been accepted with open arms. Im not doubting the US goverment would do something underhanded, unlawfull ect just there is too many flaps in the story. Mainstream press or not there is far too many ways for such an action to be seen in these days.
Because they lost many highly trained nuclear specialists in the bombing. Wrong. Turkey NEVER was able to identify the planes at all when they were in the air. That's what secret codes are all about, and the US only gave those to the Israelis (so the US planes going over Israeli territory wouldn't be shot down). They would never give those codes out to Turkey. What happened was Turkey supposedly discovered two discarded extra fuel tanks on Turkish soil. Initially it was assumed that they were Israeli by the media, since everyone at that point assumed it was an Israeli attack. I read another report since the original where the Turks stated they were US fuel tanks, probably dropped by the attacking US jets on their way back to bases either in the Med or Turkey. That would corroborate that the US did indeed attack Syria. Here's an article that states that there were NO markings on the jettisoned fuel tanks, as you can see above. The Turks considered it a hostile act and a violation of their national sovereignity. The Israelis would NOT violate Turkish airspace, but the Americans would, and do every day... http://www.turkishweekly.net/news.php?id=48370 Of course if they are just US fuel tanks, then everything is just fine and dandy with the Turks, right? Cause they allow US bases on their territory, so what's to complain about a few stray fuel tanks, right? But it's the silence, when Israel and the US refuse to confirm or deny the attack itself, rather than just whose fuel tanks those are that also indicate there is a much bigger truth behind this event, one that nobody wants to admit - The US did it, illegally, secretly without oversight. That's right, and they're also guilty of most things they DO DENY as well, including illegal attacks on sovereign countries (Iraq for one, Syria another, Panama, Cuba, there's lots of 'em!).
ATTENTION: THIS ARTICLE HAS NOW BEEN CENSORED BY ISRAELI NEWS MEDIA! USAF struck Syrian nuclear site Nov 2, 2007 Jerusalem Post The September 6 raid over Syria was carried out by the US Air Force, the Al-Jazeera Web site reported Friday. The Web site quoted Israeli and Arab sources as saying that two US jets armed with tactical nuclear weapons carried out an attack on a suspected nuclear site under construction. The sources were quoted as saying that Israeli F-15 and F-16 jets provided cover for the US planes. The sources added that each US plane carried one tactical nuclear weapon and that the site was hit by one bomb and was totally destroyed. At the beginning of October, Israel's military censor began to allow the local media to report on the raid without attributing their report to foreign sources. Nevertheless, details of the strike have remained clouded in mystery. On October 28, Prime Minister Ehud Olmert told the cabinet that he had apologized to Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan if Israel violated Turkish airspace during a strike on an alleged nuclear facility in Syria last month. In a carefully worded statement that was given to reporters after the cabinet meeting, Olmert said: "In my conversation with the Turkish prime minister, I told him that if Israeli planes indeed penetrated Turkish airspace, then there was no intention thereby, either in advance or in any case, to - in any way - violate or undermine Turkish sovereignty, which we respect." The New York Times reported on October 13 that Israeli planes struck at what US and Israeli intelligence believed was a partly constructed nuclear reactor in Syria on September 6, citing American and foreign officials who had seen the relevant intelligence reports. According to the report, Israel carried out the report to send a message that it would not tolerate even a nuclear program in its initial stages of construction in any neighboring state. On October 17, Syria denied that one of its representatives to the United Nations told a panel that an Israeli air strike hit a Syrian nuclear facility and added that "such facilities do not exist in Syria." A UN document released by the press office had provided an account of a meeting of the First Committee, Disarmament and International Security, in New York, and paraphrased an unnamed Syrian representative as saying that a nuclear facility was hit by the raid. However, the state-run Syrian Arab News Agency, SANA said media reports, apparently based on a UN press release, misquoted the Syrian diplomat.