Assault weapons ban due to expire

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/10/assault.weapons.ban/index.html

'Senate majority leader Bill Frist said, "I think the will of the people is consistent with letting it expire. So it will expire.''

But a National Annenberg election survey shows two thirds of the public favors extending the ban. So why won't Congress pass it?'

I am not pro-gun control by any means, but I think that assault weapons need to stay banned. They are completely unnecessary. We don't need them to defend our homes, or for hunting. And most Americans would agree with me.

So why is it that our elected officials feel that they don't need to represent the will of the people in this matter? Who is in their back pocket this time? The NRA?

Just another example of a corrupt and facist gov't.

 

The assault weapons ban really didn't end up banning much anyway. Most of the banned guns were back on the market within months of the ban with only a cosmetic change or name change. The ban was worded completly wrong to do much good at all. With the ban lifted there won't be very many changes at your local gun shop. The prices will drop on high capacity magazines and folding stocks, but other than that there will be hardly any changes at all.

 

Excellent! I can remodify my A-K now!

 

cool, I'm going to do a few drive bys tonight to celebrate....along with firing into the air.

 

Regardless of what the ban will and wont do, if 2/3 of American's want the ban, than why the hell isn't the gov't listening? It just shows you that our politicians aren't interested in giving regular american's anything more than lip-service. Once they are in office it's off to their own agenda, or the agenda of their lobbyists.

 

Hey,look at the bright side, gangsta rap could increase in popularity once urban violence goes back to the 1980's levels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Boiiiiiiiiiyyyyyyyyy !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

" am not pro-gun control by any means, but I think that assault weapons need to stay banned. "


Why? What exactly did the ban accomplish? The Bull shit lying no source cheching media who obviously has an agenda seems to think fully automatic ak-47s and uzi 9mms is what was banned. Actually all full auto weapons were banned in 1934 and still are banned(unless you have an ffl(federal firearms license)-a special federal gun dealers license...nearly impossible to get.

Basically ar-15s and those type of guns were banned. As the previous poster said, a little modification(like removing a bayonet) and there legal again! A 12 guage shotgun with slugs is just as dangerous as are many other type of rifles. If you get shot with a 12 gauge shotgun with slugs(legal un ar-ban) or an ar-15 with a bayonet(illegal under ban) I can tell you for sure.... YOU WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL THE DIFFERENCE

The only difference would be magazine capacity in many assault rifles. So you have a few less bullets in your magazine. This really doesn't make a HUGE difference. Being fully automatic...now that would make a HUGE difference.

This reminds me of the north hollywood bank robbery in 99 where two armed robbers with ak-47s shot up the neighborhood and the retarded media made a call for more gun control(obviously not taking into account....these are already banned weapons in all states and possesion is a serious felony) and they were also talking about "armor piercing bullets". Almost ANY long-gun(rifle, shotgun) ammuntion will pierce a class II njj soft armor vest. A .308(legal under ar-ban) would cut through a cop vest like hot knife through butter. The officer would have no chance. You don't need ak-47 nato ammo to cut through soft armor.

"We don't need them to defend our homes, or for hunting"

Actually the reason for the 2nd ammendment was not for defending against crime, but to defend against an unjust totalitarian government. Do you really want just the police and the government to have all the guns? The average citizen basically becomes a sheep. The 2nd ammendment was a key ingredient towards freedom. Whats one the first things hitler did when he took over germany? He dis-armed the general public so they couldn't revolt and defend themselves. Look at any genoice and almost always the general public was not armed.

"The assault weapons ban really didn't end up banning much anyway. Most of the banned guns were back on the market within months of the ban with only a cosmetic change or name change. The ban was worded completly wrong to do much good at all. With the ban lifted there won't be very many changes at your local gun shop. The prices will drop on high capacity magazines and folding stocks, but other than that there will be hardly any changes at all."

Absolutely 100% correct.

I agree we need some common sense gun control laws(the nra is way too extreme), but banning of guns makes no sense(and this is where some leaders want to go). Just look what happened in Australia when they banned civilian ownership of firearms, gun crime went sky high!

The assault weapons ban is stupid and does nothing to prevent crime. If it does, show me some statistics showing a decrease in legally bought assault rifles being used in crime post ar-ban. This would be fool-proof way of showing the effectiveness of the law. Of course, ar-related crime never went down after the ar-ban went into effect.

"Regardless of what the ban will and wont do, if 2/3 of American's want the ban, than why the hell isn't the gov't listening? It just shows you that our politicians aren't interested in giving regular american's anything more than lip-service. Once they are in office it's off to their own agenda, or the agenda of their lobbyists"

I agree.

 

Do you think this is the boost that Flavor Flav needs for his comeback? Maybe now Easy-E can reappear and a new NWA album could be on the horizon.



This is great, i can't wait to see more people getting their Crip walk on!!!!

 

I was worried that my 90's style bling-bling would be shelved for the rest of eternity but now with the comeback in popularity of assault weapons, so is the comeback of my gangsta stylin'.

Peace bruthas!!!

 

except that Easy-E is dead. That might make it hard for an NWA reunion.

 

I say fuck gun control altogether!

Like I've said before, I don't own any guns - let alone assault rifles - nor do I know anything about them. But why should the government be the only ones allowed to have them? I have a lot more trust in some backwoods, gun-loving redneck than I do the crooks in our own government.

Besides, the black market is already filled with these guns. If somebody wants an assault rifle badly enough, they are going to obtain one no matter what it takes.

Gun control is only a tool used to take away power from everyday, law-abiding citizens, and turn that power over to their corrupt, murderous government.

Who do you trust more, your neighbor, or the feds?

 

I agree with rat. When The Democrats are in office, they do everything to make conservative, gun owners, looks evil and wrong. Than, when the Republicans are in office, they try to make the liberals look evil and wrong, its just flip flop flip flop, everytime a president is elected. Both parties are just as corrupt and bad, and I would trust my neighbor, who may have a gun, but isn't about to kill 3,000 people in the world trade center just to enslave us and eventually declare martial law, and establish a police state in the united states, only my government is willing to do that, my neighbor is just looking out for himself...

Peace and Love,
Dan

 

OK, lift the ban, but if i don't see a "Backwoods Redneck vs. US government all out battle" within ten years, I will no longer allow the redneck contingent to use standing up to the government and the right to bear arms arguement again.

 

To hell with gun controll, power to the people I thought was the slogan of every liberal and conservative out there? Besides, most gun crime is commited with illegal guns.

 

In WI you can buy full auto and uzi style full autos with silencers 100% legally. The full auto stamp is $200 and the silencer stamp is $200 also. The owner of a local gun shop said they will do all the paperwork for you. He has to have the police cheif sign some papers saying your record is clean and then you wait for 90 days and you can pick up your gun.

 

Who cares? Good, I'm glad the ban expired. Who are any of you to dictate what people can hunt with, or how to protect themselves and their home? We aren't talking about Rocket Launchers or land mines here. If someone wants to own a "Assault Rifle"--I don't care, and no one else should. A maniac is going to get whatever he needs regardless, so it's pointless to stop lawful citizens from having them. It's the same reason why I think it's pointless to have marijuana illegal. Potheads are going to get it whenever they fucking want, I know, I am in college, people smoke weed here all the time, and it should not be criminal to do so.

 

The next time I see a reporter imply that fully-automatic firearms are now legal, I think I'm going to shoot my tv.

I think the way the media has handled this demonstrates blatant politicing. Every mention of this on the news implied that automatic weapons were what were banned.

Here is what was banned, if a gun had more than two of these features it was banned, now tell me this isn't pure hollywood politics:

"Folding or Telescopic Stock" They claimed a folding stock made a gun more concealable. Bullshit. During the ban, the minimum total length of a rifle or a shotgun was 26 inches, after the ban, the minimum length is still 26 inches.

"Pitol grip protruding conspiculously below the stock" According to The Brady Campaign “A pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun facilitates firing from the hip, allowing the shooter to spray-fire the weapon. The pistol grip also helps the shooter stabilize the firearm during rapid fire and make it easier to shoot assault rifles one-handed.” What a load of ignorant horseshit, this is pure hollywood thinking. Anyone who has handled guns knows that the only way to hit a target is to hold the gun with both hands and aim down the sights. And firing a rifle one handed? You've gotta be kidding me, that's about as easy as firing a bow one handed, even with a pistol grip.

"Bayonet Mount" Ok, I would like to see statistics for the number of bayonet deaths worldwide from 1984 to 2004.

"Flash suppressor or threaded barrel." Flash suppressors do not eliminate flash, they reduce it. You can still see a suppressed flash quite clearly. Threaded barrels because supposedly people can put silencers on them. Silencers are stil highly illegal.

"Grenade Launcher" No, you still can't get grenades, not even at gun shows, but you can get the launcher to fire flares. I guess that would be useful in combat if you were attacked at night by a shadow government squad with night vision.

Anyways, "Assault weapons" have never been too popular with criminals anyways, even before the ban. The gun of choice for criminals everywhere is and always has been pistols.

And Inagodadavita, that isn't a kit for a fully automatic gun, it's for a single fire gun. Even parts for fully automatic guns have been highly illegal since 1934.

 

Kerry Tells Bush to 'Get Real' on Assault Weapons

By Patricia Wilson

ST. LOUIS (Reuters) - Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites) on Friday said President Bush (news - web sites)'s failure to fight for a renewal of a ban on assault weapons will make it easier for terrorists to get the lethal weapons.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=578&u=/nm/20040910/pl_nm/campaign_kerry_dc_20



Vote for John Kerry!

http://www.johnkerry.com/index.html

 

"According to The Brady Campaign “A pistol grip on a rifle or shotgun facilitates firing from the hip, allowing the shooter to spray-fire the weapon. The pistol grip also helps the shooter stabilize the firearm during rapid fire and make it easier to shoot assault rifles one-handed"


LMAO!!! Are you kidding me? I think someone must have been watching too many movies. The ignorance of the general public to believe something like this truly is amazing.