Hare Krishna?

it's an english translation of sanskrit words.

words in sanskrit go much, much deeper and hold much more meaning than their "equivalent" in english.

you really have to think about every word and not make assumptions as you would in english writing. you have to really consider from all angles what "surrender", what "unto", and especially what "me" means.

i don't know if you've done that or not.

 

i investigate things whether i think they have sense in them or not. i try to avoid reaching conclusions about things, especially philosopical/metaphysical/religious/scientific things, because if you reach a conclusion in your mind, then that's an end to it, and learning stops.

prismatism is making some good points here, and i am speaking as a person who knows nothing about hare krishna, so i don't have a vested interest. you could substitute the name of any belief system where it says krishna and her points still have validity as regards lost in translation wording, and trying not to judge others.

i have investigated most belief systems, finding i resonate best with zen and krishnamurti, so far.

and that, beloved and beautiful bicycle person, is why i just love 'em. :love:

 

hare krishna is the most bonafide religion ever!

Prapupada Predicted 911

 

Randomness: For a nice look at the curruiption of the movement by Prabhupada's successors check out "Monkey on a Stick". I am rading it for a Hinduism paper I am writing and it is quite intriguing. I can't wait to get to the papers I have online about the court cases and such...

 

that is because the reptileans invaded his movement

 

fascinating, although apparently the movement is cleaning itself up...evicting the reptiles, perhaps?

 

yes, the reptiles are being kicked out, any man caught eating another man is asked to leave

 

hryhorii,

monkey on a stick represents a few ppl who were hare krsnas. the book Ialthough i did find it a great read-couldnt put it down) hardly represents the vast majority of us who are hare krsna s. and the authors of the book concurr, if u read the disclaimer in the begining and at the end. they state that we shouldn t assume that this is indicative of what it means to be vaisnava / hare krsna. and they thank all the wonderful and sincere ppl who were taken advantage of.

i can say this, i have been a hare krsna since childhood.

 

I agree. I guess you could say Swami Prabhupada was forgiving to a fault. He held such strong convictions in the grace and glory of Krsna that those types of people were able to infiltrate the movement. from what I understand, the movement that went throughout India fared much better than in America...

Personally, I do have a great respect for devotees for their faith and love for their God, and when reading the book I was saddened that the "successors" (if you could call them that) abused the people like they did.

 

good point, the few do not represent the vast majority of devotees and the hare krishnas have made efforts to confine the few rotten apples to leadership positions and gurus so they are easily identifiable

my big gripe against the hare krishnas is their opposition to gambling. my people, the red indians have been able to progress themselves through the casino gambling industry. do they have a philosohical agenda against us? i think so

 

Well chief, I guess you'd have to call a lot of Injuns 'cow (or bison) killing rascals' too. I'd have to agree that the HK agenda is stacked against the red man.

 

don't think it would be for that, rama, one of their avataras was into deer hunting as well as hunting is a widely celebrated sport amongst ksatriayas

dunno why they don't like the gambling come to think of it being alot of the hare krishna heroes were big gamblers such as maharaja yuddhisthira who even lost his wife in a gambling match. now, i like to gamble but i've never bet my wife. dang, that must be an embarrassing thing to tell the wife, "i lost you in a bet with a gambling buddy. have fun"

 

lucky at cards, unlucky in love, so they used to say.
I wonder if that works in reverse?

I recall a story of some Maharaja who went to meditate in the forest and adopted a baby deer with which he fell in love, and becasue he was so concerned for it's safety after he was gone, ended his life thinking of the deer, and so he had to reincarnate in a deer form.

 

It was,
Maharaj Bharat. He spent one lifetime as a deer and passed away, the story goes that he had to finish his prarabdha karma that way before he went on to brahma loka or was it moksha? not sure...

 

but no ordinary deer, as one, he stood on the perimeter of sages in the forest and listened to their recitation of vedic hymns and whilst so, contemplated his own enlightenment

but he did take one more birth and lived the life of a deaf mute so as not to become involved in wordly affairs. some celebrated adventures as a deaf mute was his being offered to goddess kali (i am btw a kali bhakta) by some folks who wanted to make a human sacrifice. the goddess kali murti became fully animated and killed the folks who sought to offer the pure soul of jada bharata unto her. another time as a palanquin steward for a maharaja, he stopped so as not to crush an insect in his path. the maharaja became incensed by his disruption of the procession but quickly realized the magnaminous nature of jada bharata and became his disciple and enquired from him as to life's understandings and dispelling the illusion

today, hindus the world over celebrate the life of this great saint jada bharat at disspelling the illusion

 

The link points to Indian matrimony.com... ?

 

bharat matrimony named after maharaja bharat