ellen the dog and animal rescues.. its drove me over the edge.

Discussion in 'Pets and Animals' started by hippiehillbilly, Oct 21, 2007.

  1. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    its official i am now firmly against all animal rescue organizations..

    we have one here that acts similar to the one ellen is dealing with.


    it seems its become the norm for them to critique and treat you as if you were adopting a child. actually its more like someone whos had DFCS take there child as far as what they have to go threw when they get them back.

    its complete and utter bullshit to me that number 1 they come in your house and see if they deem the way you live is fit for a animal,never mind the fact your paying to adopt the damn thing.
    number 2 they do surprise check ups and calls an shit after they let ya have the dog.
    an now this shit with ellen,, WTF?? they come an snatch the dog back then promptly adopt it away again..

    i guess they gotta keep that cash flowing..

    yeah id like to see them come in an snatch a dog of mine...

    fuck them .. ill never support another one.

    what do you think about the way the rescue places operate?are they taking things to far?
     
  2. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    i think breed rescues SHOULD pre-screen, and she DID violate a signed contract, so that is a different legality she willingly entered into. same as violating a lease, say.

    but to adopt the animal out so fast? wow. I'm glad people want the animals enough, but if it was THAT easy to adopt the dog, not get a foster home (which rescues are big on: I've considered this--) how stringent are their policies?

    The adopter should have contacted the rescue, per their agreement.
    it's called holding up your word.

    precious little of that these days.
     
  3. hippiehillbilly

    hippiehillbilly the old asshole

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    yeah but come on ??? its outlandish contract or not.. think about it,if they cared so much about the fuckin dog would they be shufflin it around like they did? would they have at least screened her hair dressers place ,gave them a trial run,,somethin??

    its like the fuckin gestapo.. do as we say or else...
     
  4. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    she SIGNED the contract, hhb. that's where I think she failed, no matter how screwy the arrangement was.
    people gotta keep their word.

    but yes, some of the rescues have crazy adoption contracts.
    but she entered into it of her own free will. It wasn't some unknown group coming in and taking a random animal.
     
  5. ahimsa

    ahimsa Senior Member

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    I think many rescues are ridiculous in their screening; however, I think its done with good intentions.
     
  6. Lilyrayne

    Lilyrayne Chrisppie

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    Yeah, I am all for rescue organizations and I can even understand the stringent requirements and policies for adopting a dog out. I even understand why that agency took the dog back.

    But I really do NOT understand why they adopted it out to a totally different family. That makes no sense at all. The only thing I can think of is that perhaps they did a background check and checked into the hairdresser's living situation and found it unsuitable for the dog? If that is the case, then yeah I can get it. But from what I understand they didn't even give the hairdresser a chance, right?
     
  7. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    I see where you're coming from and agree 100%. Come do a surprise check on me and you'll get a shotgun and an F you. If they're gonna be such anal pricks why dont they just shoot all the dogs they get in?

    I understand they signed a contract but the whole setup is BS.

    over the top I know..just a bit of a half hearted rant :)
     
  8. gardener

    gardener Realistic Humanist

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    Ellen brought it on herself. She adopted the dog, signed the contract, then instead of contacting them when the placement didn't work out she placed the dog. Big no no, and making it public is an even bigger no no.

    If she had called the rescue when she knew it wasn't working and said she knew someone her housekeeper that would like the animal, I am sure the rescue would have made a home visit and it would have been a done deal. But a person that adopts an animal and within a few weeks decides it doesn't work, isn't necessarily the best judge of where to place the animal.

    You guys can bitch and complain all you like about the poor little girl that lost her pooch, but they should have followed the procedures. They aren't that stringent or difficult to understand. Ellen put herself and her housekeeper in a position, where the rescue had to take action. They don't want people adopting animals only to pass them on in a matter of weeks. This could open their animals up to being adopted only to be used as bait dogs.
     
  9. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    Finally, someone sees the light!

    Whenever an agency adopts out a dog, they invest time, energy, and money into the procedure. they want to ensure that the dog they rescued from an unhealthy environment isn't going to go someplace worse.
    You need to screen out applicants in order to determine that the dog is in an appropriate household (some dogs do not like other dogs, or children, or other animals), otherwise you endanger the dog and it's family.

    Ellen decided to bypass their screening and give the dog away. she had no right. Then, whenever the agency did the right thing (and hard thing btw), and reclaimed the animal, she went on television and had a hissy fit. Just because she is famous does not mean she has the right to do whatever she wants. she's a human being like any of us, and bound by the same laws.

    The dog doesn't care, dogs live almost entirely in the moment, and can intergrate into new packs incredibly quickly (you dog loves whoever gave it the last snausage). The only animals that got hurt was the kid, and that's ellen's responsiblilty, not the rescues.

    They need to do random checks because they need to ensure that their dogs are going to appropriate enivronments. They are trying to look after the best interests of the dogs. would you rather people who are unable to care for dogs get them?
     
  10. salmon4me

    salmon4me Senior Member

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    As I said, if they are going to be such over bearing assholes, I would prefer they go find a different job. Power tripin fuckers.
     
  11. Eugene

    Eugene Senior Member

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    I'd rather they be overbearing assholes than let dogs go to shitty houses.

    it's like fostering a kid. sure, there are a lot of hoops to jump through for good people, but those hoops are there to ensure the safety, health, and overall wellbeing of all involved.

    What would you think if say, they gave ellen an emotionally unstable pitbull, and then ellen gave it to a family because she didn't like it. It would be a dangerous fucking situation. The rescue (most do at least) will give dogs physical, social, and psychological screenings to make sure they get along with kids, other pets, and the owner.

    I think that their priorities are in line. They are there to look after the dogs. They don't see dogs as another product to be schlepped, but as living, breathing, feeling creatures.

    The really sad thing is that these safeguards are neccessary. Most people simply are not able to give a dog the conditions neccesary to thrive (dogs need plenty of money, attention, exercise, and training). Some people want dogs for sport (fighting), some want them for experiments, some want them because they are fucking crazy and obsessively collect pets.
     
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