I LOVE weed, but should it really be legal?

I dunno....i love weed....but i think if it was legal there would be a lot more problems....people say it doesnt do damage, but i remember when i was in high school, the "stoners" were fuckin retarded....like no brain cells....everyone says it doesnt kill brain cells, but how can everyone be so sure....is it just coincedence that all the "stoners" had no braincells and were skippin class and failing? if they hadnt smoked weed would the same thing had happened? probably not, but maybe im just making a theory based on what ive seen....personaly weed has changed my life for the better, but im not a stoner...and if i had become a stoner in high school i probably would be in a different situation right now....if marijuanna was legal, then WAY more people would smoke it, therefor making more younger kids smoke it...i've read and watched many things about cannabis activism....it makes sence for some reasons, but not for others...if it were legal for occasional recreational use or medicinal use then it should be legal, but at the same time, more young kids will smoke it, and become "stoners" then i dont see how that benifits anyone...theres a fine line, and i cant decide which side to be on...maybe you have to take the good with the bad...think of it like alcohol (although i think its WAY more healthy than alcohol)...there are some benifits to it...good for recreational use, good to releive stress, but if taken irresponsibly it can be bad...same with pot...if the same laws were placed with pot as there are with alcohol than i think there will be benifits as well as downsides....personaly though, i think pot is a lot more addictive than alcohol, which means there will be more stoners than there are alcoholics...just think, if it were legal, there will be WAY more impared drivers on the road, something i am against....the question is will there be more downsides than benifits?...thats what i cant decide...any opinions anyone? dont bash me for my opinions

 

ok well first off, you're basically thinking that if weed were legal it would be easier for high schoolers to obtain? that is completely false. at the moment, it is easier for a highschool student to obtain weed than it is for them to obtain alcohol or toabbaco, because they are legal. drug dealers exist because weed is illeagle, and they don't care how old you are, just that you have money. if weed were legal drug dealers would dissapear, and all of a sudden you would have to be 18 or 21 to get weed. also, a big reason highschoolers do weed is because it's illegal and they want to rebel... they know they aren't supposed to do it, and that's why they do it. and actually marajuana is safer than aclohol, mainly because you can't overdose on weed, but you can die from alcohol poinsening. and if weed is more addicting than alcohol to you, that's just how you are, studies show in most people alcohol is MUCH more addicting than weed. just my thoughts...

 

yeah, really L2P nub

 

weedhacker,i dont think most people smoke weed to rebel,they do it cause the love the effects of it and to escape the real world for a short time,but you do have a good point.

 

Personally, I believe that there are so many benefits of cannabis, that having it outlawed is completely idiotic.

If you are confused/concerned about legality, I would highly recommend reading Jack Herer's book "The Emporer Wears No Clothes", available online at http://www.jackherer.com/chapters.html.

 

Those stoners are a lot smarter than you realize. Please, for your own sake, don't confuse intelligence with ambition.

 

That is the same argument the government used to try and convince the weak minded that weed is a gateway drug... Using your example, would the same be true... These stoners who have no brain cells probably eat apples. Do you think that it was the apples that made them the way they are? Perhaps its because they drank coffee - maybe that is why they have no brain cells? Maybe it was because of too much fresh air... go check with the stoners if they had too much fresh air (dam hippies) - too much air must have done it...



Dude... 1. Look up the definition for the term correlation.



2. Be nice to stoners at school now... chances are, you will end up working for one down the road... or perhaps one will be your kids doctor... teacher... Anyhow, I'm sure the rest of your close-minded classmates will never understand either.



Peace

Soc

 

You make good points...while i can agree with some, there are some i disagree with...perhaps it was the weed that made them stupid, maybe it was that they were naturally stupid, maybe it was the apples...all im gonna say about that is that where I went to high school, the ones who spent their day smoking pot instead of or before going to class didnt do so well in school...they seemed to be out of it and have no clue about anything all the time, maybe because they were always stoned...wether they had no braincells or if it was just they were always stoned or naturally braindead was not really my point...it was that IF it were the pot that caused it, whether causing brain damage (which from your replys is not likely, i was mis-informed and had been 'scared' into believing lies)or being to stoned to function, it wasnt healthy and didnt help anybody...where that led them now or in the future i dont know...I dont think most people do it to rebel, i think they do it cause its fun, of course i cant speak for everyone, but im sure the majority of people who smoke do it for fun....maybe it's different where I grew up, but it was always a shit load easier to get ciggarettes or alcohol than it was to get weed, so no i dont think it will be harder for kids to get weed if it was legal....as for weed being a gateway drug, that would depend on the person...for me it was, after smoking weed for a while i began searching for a more powerful high...if i hadnt ever smoked pot then i would never have gone searching for that extra high...im sure im not the only one like that...it doesnt mean im gonna be a coke head, or even try coke...i know which paths i want to take and doing coke is not one of those paths...other people will take those paths searching for a more powerful high...I did not mean to offend anyone by calling stoners retarded or braindead and im sorry if i did...all i was saying is that if cannabis were to be made legal, there's a high chance of more people trying it and getting hooked, and it will be easier to get a hold of, therefor resulting in a probable increase in stoners...and like i said before, being too high to function, or burnt out all day is not healthy, and will not do our country any good....however after thinking about it more, the benifits highly outweigh the downsides...and if i think pot is better than alcohol, and i still feel alcohol should be legal, then it would make sence that pot should be legal

 

i smoke weed everyday (or almost everyday) and i nearly made honor roll. a's b's and c's plus one f (which is being worked on to be brought up) looks like i have some brain cells... :/

and if weed were legal, it would make me happy. it would mean that the new pot smokers will finally think out of the box. i dunno i just noticed that my friends and i think out of the box on alot of things while stoned.

 

You're all missing the point though... prohibition doesn't work, so regardless of whether marijuana is legal or not 12 million Americans smoke marijuana recreationally and that is only 12 million that have admitted it in polling. 80 million Americans have admitted to trying it in their lifetime. You're criminalizing a large chunk of the American population and frankly I don't think it is ethical to imprison people because you think they are unintelligent. Do you have any idea about the reality of prison? Violence, racism, murder, rape... for being "unintelligent"? Come on man.. of course it should be legal. And for the record I graduated from high school as an honor student... I'm now enrolled at Evergreen State College and will very soon be President of Students for Sensible Drug Policy for this school's chapter. And for the record there are plenty of lawyers, doctors, politicians, real estate agents, journalists, authors, artists, musicians, comedians, actors, professors and CEOs who smoke herb regularly and would laugh that you think they are dumb stoners. I tried cannabis when I was 12 years old, smoked regularly when I was 15 and to this day smoke daily and manage to maintain my academics, activism, a job and a relationship with my girlfriend. Just cause you know some slow kids doesn't mean its the herb's fault.

 

Im not saying people who smoke pot daily are dumb stoners...i know lots of very smart people who smoke almost daily and i wouldnt really consider them a stoner...its the ones who are high 24/7 and smoke themselves into a state of mind where they can't think, can't pay attention, cant do anything but stare at the fuckin wall for hours cause they're so high...and that was like 15% of the students in my high school...you cant say thats not caused from pot...i know when i smoke some of the stuff i get around here theres no way i would be able to concentrate in class, write exams or work...even doin simple math i find gets extremely difficult...that doesnt make me slow, it just means im really stoned...maybe its just the town i grew up in and anywhere else you wouldnt find what i've been talking about...

 

I don't know what your talking about.. my herbs come from mendocino county they're very potent and I get very stoned.. it doesn't mean I can't function and why the hell should we incarcerate people because 15% of the people in your school, country, what ever stare at a wall? I don't know a single person like that... it sounds very strange to me. but beyond that it doesnt fix a problem.. so what people should spend their lives in jail cause they smoke a lot of pot and do nothing? what good comes from jailing pot users? how does it make society better?

 

maybe using the word stoner is just confusing people, i just dont know what else to call them...maybe a burnout would be a better word and get my point across

 

it doesnt matter what you call them... think about what your saying.. burnouts deserve to be incarcerated because they're what lazy, stupid and do nothing? you seriously think jail helps someone like that? why?

 

and i never said i think people who smoke pot should be in prison...that would be stupid...in fact i even said i think it should be legal...even if it was decriminalized that would still keep people out of jail, but it wouldn't make it legal

 

okay so people should pay hefty fines because they're lazy, stupid and do nothing?what happens when they can't pay the fines? but more important than that what happened to liberty? since when is it okay for the government to fine people because they don't do anything. i think it is kinda twisted that you enjoy smoking herb recreationally but think its okay for some people who fail to smoke responsibility to be punished for their irresponsibility. Get em a job application, hide their stash, make em shave.. get em a girlfriend, help your community out but don't punish it because it isn't productive.. motivate it. prohibition will never solve the world's drug problems and it is silly to think that fining people is going to do much to lessen the economic impact the war on drugs has on minorities and lower class communities.

legalize it and I will show you how to utilize it responsibility.

 

i said it should be legal....yes, at first i was undecided and not informed, but on my second post i said i read more on it and found out the truth and decided it should be legal...so i dont know why you have it in your head that i think legalizing it is wrong, or that i think people who smoke irresponsably should be punished...i said nothing about prison, or punishments for anyone who smokes pot in any of my posts...and people who use it irresponsibly will be charged the same as responsible people who are caught, so i dont even know what you are talking about because what you are saying doesnt even make sence...so why are you assuming all these things that im not even talking about? just cause i think it will be unhealthy that there will be a few more burnouts? or because i said decriminalizing it would be better than having people go to prison? im confused

 

i misread your 2nd post so I had the impression you still held onto the impression it deserved to be illegal or decriminalized as opposed to legalized. so I was expressing why the best thing the world can do is legalize it..

 

personally i've thought about those things, and i have this to say.

1.Not all pot smokers are dumb, just like not all soccer players drink gatorade, or not all people named joe are mexican lol, whatever, ive noticed with pot, its not the one making them stupid or skipp class or any shit like that its them, there are people who smoke pot all the time and get straight a's, there are some who are dumb as dog shit, it all comes down to the individual and their ambitions.

2.If i t wee legal, it would be controlled so that only adults could obtainit, dealers do not give a fuck if you are 13 or 14 years old, they want money. there would probably be the dumbass parents or older people who would help minors obtain it but thats like tobbaco and alcohol and there would be punishments for that.

3.if someone wants to smoke a fuckin plant, which honestly is probably the safest substance known to man that gets us high, whats the bigass deal?

 

well i dont think that all stoners are burnouts it all depends on the person. you say that 15% of the people in ur school just stared at a wall the whole time.
how do you know that all of them people smoked marijuana??
how do you know it was marijuana that made them not pay attention??
did you know the majority of the 15% your talking about and/or smoked with them??

just because they didnt do anything in class doesnt mean they were stoned out of their mind in class. they just didnt care about their grades or how they did. some people just dont want to learn anything and think school is worthless.
are you saying that once someone smoked marijuana it makes them think this way??
i smoked every day before school and i always did fine in school. i did procrastinate on assignments but i would have done that even if i didnt smoke.(most everyone i know even the prepy kids put off their work) i didnt take the highest acedemic classes but i did good and was always active in discussion. i know kids in my class that didnt even smoke marijuana often and they thought it was so cool for the special ed teacher to do all their work for them. i dont really think they were that dumb they just didnt do anything so they were assumed to be "slow" or whatever they classify them as.