planning your trips to the universe

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by rygoody, Nov 29, 2007.

  1. Shapeshifter

    Shapeshifter Member

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    As Relayer said, my religion is love, it is above all religions and cause of everything.

    It is cause of everything, because good things are happening because of it and bad because of leck of it.

    Simple, bad soooooo complex hahahah

    Love you all!
     
  2. 11bravo86

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    love seems better than any religion ive found so far!
     
  3. MovedOn

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    I dont really have a religion. If asked I typically say, I believe every religion equally. Or conversely, and also the same thing, I say, the void tells all.

    In terms of words I found most guiding for me. I come down the psychadellic philosophy chain for the most part. Leary, McKenna, Anton Wilson, Christopher Hyatt

    Recently been reading Raja Yoga by Swami Vivekananda, it's the first book of strong Hindu context I've synergized with.

    I also like many of the newage stuff developing in the US and Europe. Which has a remarkable similiarity to the Native American Church I find. Which is another thing that really seems to synergize with me, I'm half native american. I keep wanting to get into a peyote ritual, but don't know how.

    I dunno, though, I typically just rely on, the void tells all. I feel like if I start reading too much of aything I get confused and chaotic inside. Like, coming from the Leary, Anton Wilson background. The concept of "Meta-Programming" plays into my constant thought process. I see metaphors as essentially the routings and controls of reality. Neuroscience has actually recently shown that, quite literally at a physiological level, the metaphors you adhere to, the "verbal labels" you apply to things wire your synapses differently. So utilizing metaphors, sticking metaphors to things is quite literally, wiring your brain, programming reality. So although I read alot, and genuinely understand and synergize with alot, I'm very cautious to adhere to anything. Although, I do allow the metaphor "love" to have it's way however it wants. It's the only metaphor I unconditionally trust.

    Although, my mind is most like Leary. This isn't so much because I read him, it's associative, it was like his before I read his stuff. Like for example, I believe Gods are just like, anthropomorphized manifestations of the nature of atomic or subatomic governing particles that exist in everything. Like if you were to take a monotheistic context. When "God" appeared and spoke to people, it was merely a manifestation, a hallucination in a sense presenting the functionings of the single sub-quantum particle that everything is built on top of. I believe it is possible to percieve all of reality in this manner, constantly. Where essentially, you don't need metaphor, your don't need anthopomorphizations of Gods or stories, you can merely percieve the atomic and sub-atomic layers of reality and maintain them in this view, this perception, and still get all the benefit from them that you would as percieving such functionings as truly Gods.

    I have though more and more been considering participating in a Hindu based religious group her in Portland if I can find one. Just because, I'd like to meet like minded people. I find that, although I don't so much utilize the hindu metaphors, my psyche is pretty much almost the same as what hindu metaphor describes.
     
  4. Shapeshifter

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    Waou, rygoody!!
    When you mentioned Native Americans, I somehow always "see" them and hear their songs in my trips all the time. Since I was a very little kid, I don't know why exactly, but I had a HUUUGE respect and iterest for them. I relly belive in their way of life and meaning of life, their rituals and "magic", visions in your dreams, dream catchers, and most of all, their belife that everything is "alive" (stone,tree, sand, water....). And every time I have a vision of them and hear their ritual songs and drums, I feel like crying, for some reason, I feel like one of them who left long time ago and some kind of happines and love fills my lungs because we meet again. I feel their presence even when I am not on drugs sometimes, and the filling that somebody is watching and taking care of me melts my hart.
    Maybe you, since you said that you are half Native American can understand this better and maybe explain those feelings to me better than I can, maybe, but in any case it is so beautifull!!
     
  5. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Lol yea Native American's are wonderful. I've tripped with a few of them, drank with a bunch of them (biggest bottle of whiskey, period.) and am almost lifelong friends with one. There is a park around here that has a high cliff edge, and I remember buzzing on mushrooms there and feeling their energy left behind flowing out all over the scenery. I've only been to one reservation though, in North Dakota, and most of the people my age were meth heads, sadly. But the herbs were pretty good!
    I agree, very much of their approach towards Nature is exactly how I approach it. And I find it funny how almost every civilization in the world has a history of perceiving Nature as female in essence, and Mother Nature is still a common name that people, though they may not fully appreciate it's underlying mental imagery, still grasp onto it and use it quite frequently. I mean besides that aspect that our being and Soul is weaved in the womb of a mother and the Mother of all mothers weaved everything into existance out of Her own Womb, still there is more of a female presence to the hum of life that buzzes between each atom.
    Though in Hindu concept, Nature, is Prakriti, is the devil lol. But understand first before you get any crazy ideas, it is not "the devil" like we imagine it to be, it is the hypnotic force which seperates us from the Soul. Nature is manifested thought matter from the mind of God and it must be transcended if we are to realize our true potential as God-realized Souls. This is why Kundalini is born out of the mind and travels down the spine, resting at the lowest chakra. Through yoga meditation, the kundalini winds its way back up the 'tree of life, or knowledge, or wisdom' and the Mother Devi joins Shiva in the crown, awakened and put back to the Source in divine perception, moksha, enlightenment, etc.
    This is where insight, intuition, and the 3rd eye perception comes into play, to be able to see the actual Light of Creation out of which life dances forth. Tell me Jesus didn't practice Yoga and was saying this exact same Kriya Yoga science?
    Matt 6:22: "The light of the body is the eye: if therefore thine eye be single, thy whole body shall be full of light."
    It's all the same thing man, all religions are trying to touch on moksha and Love as the only reality :)
    Aumen and Aum Shanti!
    Namaste Family -
     
  6. dgdys90

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    Not trying to sound like an ass or anything but this thread has gone way off topic.

    I am also interested in the question that the poster has originaly asked. Are there any specific days of the year that would produce a "different" trip?
     
  7. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Sure there are, everyday of the year produced subtle differences, but if you are not already aware of that kind of sensation, no specific day is going to give you a terribly noticeable difference in effect of a drug.
    The solstices are times of massive worship and prayer, so if you were to tune in on the vibrations caused by large gatherings of in tune mental concentration, surely you would feel a positive energy, a spiritual and emotional uplift feeling
     
  8. killuminati

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    i thought kundalini entered through the feet and worked it's way up.. true?
     
  9. dgdys90

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    Thank you Relayer. You seem like a well learned person.
     
  10. StonerBill

    StonerBill Learn

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    if stars really are just like our sun, bigger or smaller, then the stars represent little as for the happenings on earth. instead, patterns of star-movements represent time periods. since most things occur in a frequency like pattern, that is, coming and going, and over time, these 'trends of things happening' can be represented as some combination of factors that in themselves come and go. some patterns of star movement will coincide with the coming and going of arbitrary events, and over time civilisations can represent the coming and going of trends or occurances or wars or civil change, social change, by star patterns. there are just so many stars and they have been one of the only things that have continued to be observable on earth every day forever, and so their observations and records stretch back so far in civilisation. the south americans produced huge calandars according to the movement of stars. that is because the sun/moon tells us what time of the day it is. and the stars tell us what time of the year it is. the planets can tell us time according to any other planet's year. but the stars arent arranged in dates, theyre aranged in millions of relationships, which in turn can combine to form a virtually unlimited set of time periods.

    after recording events for a few hundred or thousand years, many patterns of occurances on earth can appear to be predicted by star-patterns.

    but is it spritual? i dont think so. but so grand. we cant touch or affect the stars in any way, so they seem like such a grand force, that we all must ignore or percieve but never change.
     
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