Hostage Crisis

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by hotwater, Nov 30, 2007.

  1. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    wow...

    That eliminates all credibility don't ya think ;)
     
  2. *°GhOsT°LyRiC°*

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    hahahahahaha! omg! i cant believe he just put that on there. pure cheeeeesiness
     
  3. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    They’ve identified the guy as Leeland Eisenberg a local who has a history of mental illness and who the police are all too familiar with.


    He has a history of paranoid schizophrenia and believes the government thinks enough of him to implant a tracking device in his head [​IMG]



    He might be right [​IMG]



    h
     
  4. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    Can you without a shadow of a doubt say otherwise?

    You must ask why he believes what he does... the only one with that answer is him.
     
  5. LuckyStripe

    LuckyStripe Mundane.

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    And this is why certain people need to go see a psychiatrist!


    :leaving:
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Once again the media is blowing something way out of proportion. It turns out the guy doesn't even have a bomb, but road flares. If this was the same situation in any other building, it wouldn't be making world-wide news. But because it's in a Hillary campaign office, it's this big news story.
     
  7. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I am not sure if Hillary is a woman.
     
  8. stinkfoot

    stinkfoot truth

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    ...or human?
     
  9. Ressotaspiks Man

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    Yeah dont they stop at any lengths to get publicity.
    CHuck a theme in of insecurity and danger - and low and behold that square jawed testosterone filled Republican ( yes I DO mean Republican) puppet is the perfect man to "defend America's safety".( AHEM)

    That bitch was decided to be president 5 years ago - you could see from the TV report with both Bushes and both CLintons in one place.Elections arent about voting , the media debate has always been rigged , the electoral system and now those fucking voting machines.

    PS it is a crisis - no one kidnapped HER , or should I say HIM.
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yes.

    And anyone who thinks Hillary is going to be any better than the current clown in office, doesn't have a clue.
     
  11. crankyelbow

    crankyelbow Makes Music

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    i'll take this opportunity to say.

    Ron Paul for President!
     
  12. Cate8

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    this is so cheesy....vomit material...
     
  13. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I’ll be sure to ask him after they loosen his straight jacket, and reduce his dosage of clozapine [​IMG]


    h
     
  14. Ressotaspiks Man

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    Instead of Ron Paul , theyll probably have that 90s misfit Ru Paul :)

    7 foot drag queen - arguable ticks the boxes of celebrity ( sort of) , black ( well theve gotta have an Uncle Tom Republican after Clinton - like Rice or Powell) , and female
    oh and fucking stupid.

    I heard the incredible hulk was running for President.
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    They're already equating Ron Paul supporters with domestic terrorists. They did this on the Glenn Beck Show on CNN a couple weeks ago.
     
  16. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    They do that to anyone who thinks outside of the box :mad:


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  17. John Allman

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    It is a popular misconception that one one has to be important to become a victim of the modern equivalent of (say) the old MKULTRA programme, even in one's own home. It is akin to the old misconception that, in order to get raped, a woman had to be pretty and to wear skimpy clothing. Disbelieving a report of e-harassment, saying, "You have delusions of grandeur if you think the government (or others) would bother with harassing you" is as misguided (and as insulting) as disbelieving a woman who claims to have been raped, saying, "You must have delusions of your own sexiness, if you expect me to believe that anybody would want to rape you."

    The mainstream news aren't reporting that Mr Eisenberg's motive was to get removed an implant he believes he has. Web references to this aspect of the story are rapidly disappearing from Google search results, which is also throwing up broken links.

    The e-harassment community is reporting that Mr Eisenberg appears to be a targeted individual. However, although I have no news yet of anybody who actually knows him.

    I find, of quite a few of the alleged e-harassment TIs who contact me for help: (1) that I am the first person whom they have each approached for help, and (2) that they show signs of being (as I put it) "addicted" (often to a degree verging upon delusion) to the (probably in most cases mistaken) guess that they have implants, since the methods of inflicting e-harassment upon victims who have not been implanted are inadequately publicised.

    One thing that would be nice, but which probably won't happen, is that the media covering this story will seek comment from the e-harassment targeted individual community on the story. This is a pity, because I'm fairly confident that if only Mr Eisenberg had had peer group support from other TIs (assuming that he is a TI in the first place), he probably wouldn't now be facing a long prison sentence, for a very serious offence.

    John Allman
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  18. hotwater

    hotwater Senior Member Lifetime Supporter

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    If the government and their alien co-conspirators are responsible for planting a tracking device within the cerebral cortex of Leeland Eisenberg, he’s got quite a lawsuit against the government and I can assure you heads will roll (no pun intended) :mad:


    hotwater
     
  19. John Allman

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    Of course. It stands to reason.

    Leaving aside the remark about "alien co-conspirators", which I take it was intended in jest, there is no need for Eisenberg to have a tracking device fitted to his body for him to be tracked, and no reason to think that, in the extremely unlikely event that he did have one fitted, it would be inside his cerebral cortex, of all places.

    The point I was making was that some of the early reports online of this breaking news story stated that Eisenberg was demanding that his supposed brain implant should be removed. That isn't evidence that he has an implant, of course, but it does strongly suggest that he might be a victim of e-harassment, acting out of sheer desperation, upon a mistaken belief that e-harassment still depends upon implants, which it hasn't for several decades now, if it ever did. The mass media are simply not covering this angle of the story at all, as far as I can make out so far.

    What dismays me is that (with notable exceptions, such as the Washington Post's Mind Games feature in January this year) the mass media so largely suppress all news of the very existence internationally of a rational and suprisingly well organised anti- e-harassment lobby, and of the supportive community of targeted individuals from whose ranks the activists (such as myself) are recruited. For example, I was recently invited to be a studio guest on a chat show filmed in the USA, and televised weekly to an audience of 50 million homes. The poor chat show host promptly lost her job, after four years presenting a TV show named after her, for what the network described curtly as "content-related" reasons.

    If the press covered e-harassment issues more, and Eisenberg had read the coverage, he'd likely have sought support from fellow TIs, achieved greater social inclusion, perhaps accomplished peer-assisted self-deprogramming of the "implant" quasi-delusion (as have many of my "clients"), and joined in canny, organised, peaceful activism, instead of setting himself up for spending the rest of his life behind bars, by behaving like the maniac he's been turned into by the torture, poor man.

    Face the facts: To use an ecclesiastical metaphor, one of our "parishioners", who doesn't even know that I'm one the team of parish "vicars" (covering the UK, in my own case), almost "went postal" the other day, and I'm not sure that I'm even going to be able to debrief him on what went wrong, too late to prevent the tradegy. If the media stopped censoring news about e-harassment activism, Eisenberg might have contacted us, and found more effective methods of protesting. It would also be nice if the same tired old cliched attempts at humour were given a rest ... aliens ... tin-foil hats ... etc.

    I wouldn't be surprised if Eisenberg's tormentors had put him up to this, as a psyop to discredit targeted individuals in general. This is a dangerous time for the perp industry, what with Jim Guest supporting us TIs publicly, and Jim Guest himself being so close to intending presidential candidate Ron Paul, whom I have heard is also opposed to e-harassment.

    I am going to try to contact Eisenberg, to get his side of the story, which the mass media aren't telling. I managed to contact James Earl Butler a few years ago, who actually stabbed a plain-clothes police officer, in what he probably regarded as self-defence at the time. Unfortunately, for whatever reason, Mr Butler did not accept the outstretched hand of friendship, so I have not heard his version of events "from the horses mouth".

    I feel very sorry for Eisenberg, whom I strongly suspect the public has less need to have locked up safely than it has for (say) Hilary Clinton to be locked up. I will offer Eisenberg my services, if I can get a message to him, somehow or other, during in the next few days.

    I do want to make it clear that I don't condone what Eisenberg did, but I would love to know from him whether or not he did it for the reasons stated in the early internet reports, rather for what may be the mere "cover story" reasons expounded in the later, mass media-published reports. Aren't you at all curious too, Mr Hotwater?

    John Allman
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  20. John Allman

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    That's interesting. The Ron Paul camp also seem to be only people supporting the anti- e-harassment lobby, given that our former hero Kuchinich isn't standing for "Presley" this time around.

    Perhaps the Eisenberg story really is indeed the wicked psyop I have expressed to Hotwater my tentative suspicions that it might be. :)
     
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