Jesus said nothing about homosexuality, but He had plenty to say about divorce. What should modern Christians think about the subject?
I think unless there is physical, emotional or verbal abuse, substance abuse or infedelity divorce is a sin and detremental to society and children.
... Well if there was TRUE love, divorce should never come up. Period. I don't think it's necessarily "sinful" and "evil" and something to be looked down on... it's going to cause a lot of un-needed pain and could have been avoided.
Ignore me if you've read my old post. Jesus: Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery. Paul: To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife. To me, Paul seems to be writing to a community who was (for him) too focused on "freedom from the law" and were engaging in willy nilly acts such as the man who sleeps with his fathers wife (ambiguously mother or stepmother) and this is an attempt at rectifying his previous statements as found in the letter to the Thessolonians (the first letter, the second is a disputed authentic Pauline corpus)
What I think, I know im very late..but.. If your husband or wife cheats..you have the right to divorce..and remarry someone else..but if they dont cheat..and you get divoreced..you have to stay single..or remarry your husband or wife...
First of all, no matter what view one takes in the issue of divorce it is important to remember the words of the Bible from Malachi 2:16a: “I hate divorce, says the Lord God of Israel.” According to the Bible, God’s plan is that marriage be a lifetime commitment. “So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate” (Matthew 19:6). God realizes, though, that since a marriage involves two sinful human beings, divorce is going to occur. In the Old Testament, He laid down some laws in order to protect the rights of divorcees, especially women (Deuteronomy 24:1-4). Jesus pointed out that these laws were given because of the hardness of people’s hearts, not because they were God’s desire (Matthew 19:8).
3 grounds for remarrying *when your spouse died *when a non-believer spouse leave *when ur partner commits adultery
People rush into marriage to fast these days, it has lost its true meaning. No wonder the divorce rates are so high when people just marry after only just meeting so that they don't know each other well enough, or marry to stop someone leaving or whatever. I don't want to marry until I know that I am with the person I am meant to be with and that I know them well enough and they know me. That way I can be pretty sure I am doing what God wants us to do.
Divorce rates aren't skyrocketing like people would have you believe... http://marriage.rutgers.edu/Publications/pubTenThingsYoungAdults.pdf http://www.familyministry.us/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2
Why should two people who no longer get along stay together? It makes no sense. If there are children, do they benefit from living in an un-happy home where mum and dad are always arguing or worse? Myself,I think it can often be better if under such circumstances people separate. One question to xians - what if your wife decides to change her religion? Should you still stay married? Also, if you married out of church, does that count?
I think arguments make relationships stronger if you can work through it, and sometimes not getting along for a bit helps you grow together. Since my wife and I got married, we've had a few arguments, but we've never considered separating because we know that we love each other and that we belong together. Granted, if we didn't really love each other, we wouldn't be together in the first place, but if we somehow were, we'd probably end up getting divorced. My wife isn't a Christian, but that hasn't been a problem for me. We actually married outside the church too. I think that religious pluralism in the family can help with children getting multiple grasps on how to experience the divine, so I'd actually encourage it. Christianity works for me, Wicca works for my wife, our kids will find their way to experience the divine in their own time. There's ground on which we can relate I think that's the part of our religious differences that make us still able to grow toegther.
Well that's nice - but it doesn't apply in every situation. If it did, divorce would not be so commonplace as it is. The thing is that the vast majority of people calling themselves xian don't have your level of sophistication. Many would become extrememly worried if their partner were to take up something like Wicca. For my part, I was married for about 17 years, and eventually there was just nothing left in common but arguments. This made all parties unhappy, including my daughter. When we split, I took care of the child, as she then was, and my ex went off and got herself another relationship. That didn't endure for long, and she eventually converted to Islam after spending time in N.Africa. Clearly, there would be no chance at all of a reconciliation, and neither party wants it. Hard to see how any of that constitutes 'sin' or is displeasing to God. As a result of the splt, everyone became happier - I certainly did once the initial thing wore off, my daughter who had been having problems got herself together and returned to college - she is now married with a good job. As for my ex- she's simply nuts in my view, but she's happy enough too in her own wierd islamic way. I'd say it's hard to generalize about divorce - every case is unique really and has to be treated as such. That's a problem with most organized big religion - they think one rule fits every case, but in practical reality it doesn't work like that.
The Bible only gives two reasons for the dissolution of marriage bonds and they are fornication and death. I’m sorry to say that physical, emotional or verbal abuse are not Biblical reasons for divorce. The Bible does allow in those cases separation but she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. Thus, it is underscored that marriage is not something to be taken lightly.
My husband was a Christian when we married, and now he's not. That makes me feel like he's unfaithful. I feel cheated, alone, confused. Also, what counts and doesn't count as infidelity? DOes there have to be sex involved? We have been thinking about separation as we dont like eachother anymore, we dont have any of the same interests, I want marriage counselling (I'm even willing to go the secular route for his comfort) but he refuses. whatever advice you can give would be appreciated. I'm glad to be back in Hipforums, excuse me while i get to know the site again, it might take me awhile. THought i'd come back for fellowship and advice, these are delicate cicumstances.
Hi seahorse, I am sorry to hear that things are not so good. I cannot offer any advice, bu IMO you can cheat with your emotions, there doesn't need to be sex. Anyways though, I hope everything works out for the best.
Hi seahorse, Marriage between two imperfect people is never easy. That is why the Bible has so much to say about it. I’ll try to give you some Scriptures to look at to answer your questions. My husband was a Christian when we married, and now he's not. That makes me feel like he's unfaithful. I feel cheated, alone, confused. That does make him unfaithful but not so much to you but to God. Remember you are not alone, God is with you. The Bible says this about being married to an unbeliever. 1Cor. 7:12-16 Also, what counts and doesn't count as infidelity? Does there have to be sex involved? Matt 5: 32 The Greek word translated “fornication” is por•nei´a. “This is a general term for all unlawful intercourse, por•nei´a has been defined as “prostitution, unchastity, fornication, every kind of unlawful sexual intercourse.” Porneia is understood to involve the grossly immoral use of the genital organ(s) of at least one human; also there must have been two or more parties, whether of the same sex or the opposite sex. So yes, for there to be fornication it seems sex would have to be involved. We have been thinking about separation as we dont like each other anymore, we dont have any of the same interests, I want marriage counselling (I'm even willing to go the secular route for his comfort) but he refuses. 1Cor 7:10-13 So separation should not be taken lightly but this does not mean you have to stay in an abusive relationship, if one exists, because in that case you can separate but do not have grounds for divorce. I hope I haven’t been too indelicate for your tastes, OWB
seahorse there is a good christian book called *power of the praying wife* ( http://www.marriagemissions.com/the-power-of-a-praying-wife/ ) that might help you pray for him. if you're asking yourself *i don't even like him, how can i pray for him ... this book may be very helpful. it gives some nice prayers for a wife who is concerned about her husbands salvation,her husbands demeanor and basically everything to do with marriage. i've given this book to some christian women who are so bitter about their marriages they refuse to even open the book ... i promise it can help. i once read a book (i'm sorry i don't remember the name of it, i read too much) about a woman who was a believer in jesus the day he was crucified. her husband was a roman soldier ordered to carry out the crucifixtion of jesus. it was not a true story, yet, it was written as if it were true. she was so torn between her loyalty and love for her husband (who she despised at this moment) and her faith in god and belief in jesus.
well the bible does say things about the people that engaged in homosexual behavior being evil and sinners and stuff but i dont personally believe that homosexuality is wrong or that God condones it
