i tripped on about 4 grams of shrooms last weekend, and the same dose just on the weeked that passed. first week was amazing. the one that just passed was fucked. i was with my friend, at his house, things were amazing, then we smoked a few cones and he went to bed cause he didnt take shrooms. so i end up sitting downstairs, after 5 minits things go worse and worse. soo frightfull, i couldnt move out of my seat, i was shaking, i had no grip on nothin, i saw spiders, i saw alien shadows, i jumped at creaking sounds, i couldnt stand properly, the walls were all in out waving, pictures growing and getting smaller with the type of music. my mind told itself i was going insane, everything i had realised on acid, i had now re-realised new things over it, in a way that was a tormenting mindfuck of insanity. like i was questioning the things i had allready questioned. getting further and further disconnected. iv never had such a distorted perception of self, distorted feeling of self. for hours i was tryin to talk myself down in my mind, so many harsh realisations about myself. all about how bad the drugs are, my fucked up life, the way iv been acting, how i act, looking at the time was tormenting as fuck. 3 minits of terror, felt like an unexplainable amount of time. just waiting for it to go away. i had no grip on anything, so i took out my phone and tried to read the messages in my inbox, and the familuarty grounded me a li'l, it helped to concentrate on it, i had no clue how to function anything else like put on a movie. the back door was open, and some beautfull little kitten came in, and it was amazing, tho i was still terrified. waking my friend was thought on my mind for a while. i wouldnt wake him unless i was truelly terrified. i used the cat as a kind of excuse to wake him. i prob sounded nuts, but i was tellin him there was a cat inside the house, and i was freakin out. im like im freakin out man. i need help. im freakin out, but no cause of the cat. but he never really woke up cause he was pretty trashed.. good trips can be ego boosts, i just feel like now like this will bring my ego down. i can allready feel like it has. first bad trip. anyone with bad trips, do you think they'll be much impact on me? i feel like i need to fix my life and never want to take drugs again, i doint know how long that will last, but we'll see.
Did the cat belong to your friend? Cats are interesting, I used to have a cat that was pretty nasty all of the time because we teased her too much when she was a kitten. But whenever one of us was sick, the cat would always curl up right next to us. One theory was that she was attracted to the heat of whoever had a fever, but for some reason I always felt like there was something more going on there, like she sensed our pain and wanted to comfort us. Maybe the little kitten in your tale picked up on your vibes and was offering itself to you as a calming snack or something. There's nothing like kitten teriyaki or a nice cat kebob to brighten your mood.
like 3 days ago, I was in meditation and found a really bad blockage and in my mind called for help, or guidance or something... then my cat like not even 5 minutes later came in. I was laying on my stomach trying to meditate myself to sleep at this point. And my cat then layed on my back purring like right where I felt the problem to be and it like, greatly improved the situation. Like the vibration of the pur was EXACTLY on the spot where I felt blocked... and she just layed there and did it for like an hour. after that I've been reading on how many cultures saw cats as divine I've also been paying really close attention to my cat since then I dunno it does seem like cats live in a state of nirvana... just wander around happily very calm and relaxed, sexxing each other alot, just being cute and chilling in materialist society there actually alot like hippies I also find cats are extremely forgiving, like dogs will hold grudges against certain people for a while, but cats always seem to eventually get along with everyone
i did see the cat as a blessing. ofcourse after i got the shock of it coming in. i thought it was amazing that the cat had come in, and it had deffinatly helped. he hept coming in and out. and i sat in the middle of the kitchen watchin it, and pattin it, and had some good realisations about cats and their conscousness. im sure it could tell somthing was wrong. i had dangled all the other clothes i had over my shoulders and went to bed like that too. my friend in the moring came in and was like wtf. i was wearing clothes just that i had dangled all these other things around me. felt somwhat comforting. i think in a way a bad trip is good. it brought me down from the crazy dream i was in, and forced me to see the harsh realities. i had previously had a 'difficult' acid trip, but never labled it 'bad'. i just called it overwhelming. never take psychadelics again. imagine a hi dose acid trip going bad, just screaming and screaming and crying in terror, image after image of the worst things imaginable. your friends trippin with you, have no idea what to do, in such a state of screaming they have to take you to hostpital. call an ambulance. just imagine that shit. i realised psychadelics arent worth the risk of such a thing happening, as its somthing that i think can and would ruin your life.
"religion is for those afraid of hell, spirituality is for those that have gone through hell." -anton wilson I imagine everyone who has taken a really high dose of acid has had to face many demons.
Well to respond to your 'never take psychedelics again', that is completely up to you. In my opinion, if you are tripping in a place civilized enough where an ambulance could even get to you, you are tripping in the wrong place. You want to be tripping in a place that nothing bad can't get you, not the cops, not the hospital, not you parents. If you don't follow this, then the fear of them will constantly be in the back of your head, and that fear could suddenly surface and tip you over the edge. No matter how much you scream, it won't kill you. If one of my friends did that, I would not call an ambulance, because acid can't physically harm you. I would instead talk with you and calm you down. Attempt to get a laugh on your face. You treat someone who's having a bad trip as if they are a child who is scared of monsters in their closet. When tripping, you assume many traits of a child, and if you are beyond self-help, then someone needs to give a helping hand.
was it your first time tripping alone? i noticed you said your friend went to bed then everything started going bad. i used to get this when i first start taking acid and ended up in me as a 15 year old waking my mom at 4 in the morning to talk to me cause i new i had to talk to someone. could be that you just didnt have the distraction of your friends conversation anymore and was left completly alone with your thoughts.
nah. i took acid alone in my room one night. and while some bits were frightening, the experience was amazing. first time i took acid, it was overwhelming, and people thougt i had a bad trip, and whilst maybe i did, i never saw it as that. so its just the shrooms that got me.
Hmmm, it is interesting that you regret loosing your want for drugs. Don't you think that this means you found what was missing, and is now time to move on? Isn't that what using drugs is about in the first place, finding what is missing? J.C
yeah. when i started using drugs, it was more of a way to change myself. you see i hated myself, this was years ago. i wanted to take drugs to make me more outgoing and that sort of thing. well after the acid trips and the first shroom trip, i was at my absolute peak of what i could of wanted out of it. it was the fix and cure of all my psychological problems, i felt free, happy in my self for who i am and everything. now, whether short term or long, i have retrieved all the way back to nothing. a feeling of no-personality, can only answer simple questions, with a mono-tone voice. cant think of anything remotly funny to say. even this post, i feel like a cry baby retard. just toughen the fuck up and get on with things ay. maybe it means now i have to take more drugs again, to try and re-gain what i had. i have no idea anymore.
I think you freaked out cuz you took those trips in a to short time span. There was only a week between the trips you took. From my experience and others its best to put atleast a few months between your trips so your subconscious have the time to 'recover' from it. I hope you have learned from it. Take care.
Once when I took acid as a teenager I ened up in my dad's pickup truck honking the horn at 4 AM. I thought I was captaion of a spaceship. needless to say it was the last time I took 2 hits at once. I really don't think you should smoke weed while tripping. I don't think you should with LSD or Mushrooms. Maybe when you are coming down but I would not suring the peak of the trip. I have read this several places, but I am sure others will say they did it with no problem. Some things for some people just do not mix. I also think what big said is correct you probably should be tripping outside somewhere away and safe and its better for me to trip with someone that is not tripping as I do not want to have to make any decisions while tripping. If I had a drug make me feel uncomfortable then I would stay away from it. Do what makes you feel good and what you can do in moderation and handle. Some drugs I would never consider doing, like ALL the hard ones. Just my opinion and I never drink 2 days in a row either, to each his/her own I guess.
I fully agree with starchild here, also from experience. The closest thing I had to a bad trip was also when I was tripping three weekends in a row. The third one turned out pretty different then all shroomtrips before, I had paranoid thoughts for two hours and was completely disconnected from reality. It was also the first trip without a lot of beer by the way, since I was feeling after the first hour this wasn't going to be as pleasant as the other ones. Keep a few weeks clear from it before shrooming again!
I always have seen drugs as a key to open doors, once the door is opened it up to you to step though it, trying to open the door more won't really help things. Idk if I'm making sence or not, but i would suggest leaving all drugs out of the picture for the most part till you find your self. J.C
its all how you integrate the experience... i had a super hard freakout when i ate 3 squares of (unbeknownst to me) windowpane the october of '06 i was completely gone detatched from reality, just scrambled hell, thrashing around screaming and making atomic turkey gobble noises, stuck doing the same pattern millions of times... i came to naked in my livingroom wrestling mi padre... i grappled with reality and solipsism and all that... theres an infinate amount of ways to look at reality, its really all up to how you want to percieve it. as long as you can hold a conversation and a job you're in the clear
i havent really had a bad trip on shrooms yet but then again i didnt take bad ass shrooms like the ones u took (i didnt see shadows and what not, so im assuming urs were better) but i was watch full house when i was on shrooms and i was thinking to myself like wow this is so corny but like hey its family! they love each other lol so yeah i was in a good mood. point is try watching corny shows
lol, theres ALOT better things you can do with a mushroom trip then watching corny shows. get out in nature and experience the world how its supposed to be, things like the TV and computer while they are fun, its a waste of a trip IMO.
well me and my gf had these shrooms for like 4 months so we thought it wouldnt be a very good trip cause of how old they were lol