Well, they say that there are government spys infiltrating activist groups and instigating trouble within ranks of protesters, etc. Maybe they are taking names, maybe they are trying to make a bunch of unhappy but peaceful folks look bad. Whatever they are up to, it's evil. They are liars and imposters. They are worms and weazles. Having said that, I'm pretty DAMN sure there are some REALLY BAD ONES lurking around hipforums. Shadow government nazi wannabes maybe working for the FBI (federal bureau of idiots) or cia... I think that maybe we should ALL be more discriminating in our judgements and watch closer for red flags. I'm not saying be intimidated or afraid, but I'm saying, if you get suspicious, call their bluff. Bring it out. Try to get things aboveboard. People will show what they are really all about if they get angry, and sooner or later, any but the BEST will get angry, because most folks DON'T agree with their strange ideas... And I guess I'm saying, don't assume that because someone is posting on hip forums that they are hip at all, they COULD be the devil's right hand man... Keep focused, set an example, stay honorable.
We know this is happening and has been for a long time. A perfect example is Colonel James "Bo" Gritz, who was the most decorated Green Baret of Vietnam. Gritz had his own shortwave radio program for years, which pretended to rail against the New World Order. In reality, he was an imposter who helped to gather the names of hundreds of people. The day after 9/11, Gritz was interviewed by CNN on the Congressional steps and asked his opinion of who he thought did it. He responded by saying it was those "foolish conspiracy theorists" who believe in the New World Order. Gritz was nothing more than a tool of the elite, working for the Pentagon, acting on "hip pocket orders." There are literally hundreds of people out there in the so-called "Patriot" and "Truth" movements that are like this, and some of them are quite prominent in the alternative media.
google the word Sayanim. If you want to know who really has it in for us, learn about the Kenites, or as Jesus called them ...”the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie"... If the occult is represented by a pyramid, with satan's eye at the top, than surely right below “Horus” you will find the "International Judaic". If you want to know what the conspiracy is really about, google and learn about the "four hidden dynasties". Use their own tools against them.
Than again, since they are keeping track of everything we are looking at online, maybe it's better to "scroogle" rather than "google" to find things out nowadays. scroogle scrapper is supposed to dump all those incriminating computer tracking devices known as "cookies". Also, your search terms are not kept in big bro's database (hopefully). www.scroogle.org
In the 1950s through the 1970s the FBI infiltration campaign was called "COINTELPRO" (counter intelligence program). It was dismantled in the mid 70s when someone broke into a Pennsylvania FBI headquarter and released the COINTELPRO document to the public. The program was intended to stop all progressive movements from achieving their goals. The targets ranged from black civil rights pacifists and anti-war peaceniks to AIM (American Indian Movement) militants in the 70s. The program was officially dismantled (in name at least) but the same operations take place to this very day. Only difference is that now the operations are more technologically sophisticated and perverse. The 9/11 truth movement is the biggest threat to the established order SINCE the revolutionary movements of the 60s and early 70s. There are indeed undercover infiltrators and operatives working to undermine our efforts, however I believe they have underestimated our will and determination to hold the real 9/11 perps accountable. Pressed Rat was correct in his above post, though we disagree on WHO the infiltrators are. The vast majority of the truth movement (not to brag) agree with my position on who the "rats" ;-) are.
The vast majority of the truth movement has no idea what they're talking about thanks to the very operations you speak of.
Maybe if our goverment had less money to throw around they would be less intrusive? They keep on voting for budget increases. They are bribing voters with perks while assembling huge represive agencies. We got a nice new gazebo in the park the other day, wonder what else came with it? Our "Rights Coalitions" and such are just the tax collectors for the police state. I'm sure that all big web forums are monitored, there are big budgets to catch pedophiles, meth labs and the like. Just about everybody knows to be circumspect on the web.
And you know this...HOW exactly?? Please enlighten me, I'm all ears. Don't give too much credit to the infiltration tactics currently taking place. The 9/11 truth movement is the most sophisticated revolutionary movement in our nation's history.
Try looking at a few protest videos.... People are blaming the ENTIRE operation on Bush, for Christ's sake.
^YES, and this is exactly what the elite want so they can make it into a political issue and brush everyone off as left-wing anarchists. This will create the marginalization they are looking for, and will turn many people away who are starting to wake up to the agenda, as they will assume that those questioning the official story have a political agenda or are simply Bush haters. They want people to join groups because it is far easier to control groups than it is hundreds of thousands of free-thinking individuals.
/\ YES the dropping of the Trade Center is best viewed as a physicial / engineering issue only at this time. The remarkable destruction of this building is legitimate scientific inqury. Overdecorating the hypothesis with motivations and suspects will detract from the issue of the remarkable circumstance and cause the mildly curious to get overloaded.
The Oklahoma Bombing was a wakeup call for the FBI, and since then they’ve infiltrated every militia & white supremacist group (or recruited the services of an informant) since 9/11 they've expanded to include nearly every radical group from MADD to UNICEF hotwater
How was the OKC bombing a wakeup call to the FBI when they were in on it? Who do you think tipped off the BATF and told them not to come into work that day? Who planted all those bombs in the Murrah building that were being reported by the "authorities" live on the news? Did Timmy McVeigh do all that? I thought a "truck bomb" caused all that damage?
Oh God. It's hard to believe that anybody whatsoever falls for that bullshit. But then again, you're very young. Nobody within the 9/11 truth and justice movement blames Bush for orchestrating 9/11. We understand that it takes more than 1 person to plan big events like that. We also understand that Bush isn't the REAL person in charge of government operations. There's a secret cabal working BEHIND THE SCENES. Bush is nothing but a puppet. Can you please provide a source for any legitimate 9/11 truth organization who believes that Bush acted alone? The truth movement is relatively impervious to infiltration tactics. In other words, we can spot them from a mile away. There have been some "protesters" on the streets holding signs saying stuff like "Bush did 9/11". These are not honest activists. These are people attempting to derail the 9/11 truth movement by making us look bad. They are attempting to fool bystanders about what we're really about. Unfortuantely...in YOUR case...it seems to have worked. Please conduct your own research before drawing baseless conclusions on things you know little-to-nothing about.
Sorry, but that's the lamest argument I've heard in awhile. Thousands of free-thinking individuals are POWERLESS all by themselves, especially when they are scattered across the country and have no way of helping eachother should the need arise. In groups, mountains can be moved. The power-elite knows this which is why they plant undercover operatives to STOP groups of motivated activists. You're a sly one Rat...you even fool ME sometimes. Not with this post though.
That attitude is probably why it already has been. And if you want proof then look at videos like the video of the thousands of protestors in front of the White House recently.
Altho I agree up to a point, a group is more easily STOPPED than many lone individuals. A group is easier to target and infiltrate. We have something here called "lone wolves". I suppose we MIGHT classify as a "group", altho none of us actually know eachother, nor have we met. We stay aware of each other tho and we seem to all be focused on the same issues, but we do not meet or plan, we act alone and secretly. But at the same time, if something happened to one of us, the others will "keep the homefires burning" so to speak. In this way, we are extremely hard to stop. The authorities only know about a FEW of us for sure, the more visible ones. They can see we work alone for the most part. It makes things very difficult for them...
the aren't easier to control, but i think he meant to say that they're easier to blame, and use to distract people.
How is a large group of people who take their opinions from a few public speakers not easy to control?
