Which can be more intense to you?

At times when comsuming around 5-7 grams of mushrooms around, i think that it can be way more intense sometimes than taking a few hits of acid. What do you think?

 

i think taking large doses of mushies has more unwanted effects than taking large doses of acid. so yes it can be more intense, but not in a way that i enjoy.

 

No idea, really. I feel like they both have the potential for unlimited intensity, if you take enough. At lower doses I think shrooms are overall more "intense" unless you have a panic attack on L, which I feel like is far more likely and also much worse than a panic attack on shrooms due to the speediness of L.

 

I agree with Willy Wonka 27. and basically, shrooms have a limit, and acid's limit of intensity is soooooooooooooooooo powerful it's insane

 

If you can't decide witch one, take both of them and have a unique trip. I like it that way the most!

 

I am the opposite :tongue:
Of course everyone will react different to every chemical and there is no 'yes' or 'no' answer for this question, it's purely opinion.
Also, most people have easier access to taking larger doses of magic mushrooms than they do LSD, so try to keep that in mind.
That being said, my personal opinion, as I have taken both large doses of LSD and handfull's of magic mushrooms in single sitting's, is that magic musrhooms are WAY WAY WAY more intense than LSD. The reason being? Because mushrooms I believe are Nature's gift to us, to teach us how She works. And if you pay attention you will feel it to. And Nature is both creative and destructive, and therefor so are Her mushroom trips to the psyche and the soul.
LSD, to me, even in high doses, is the playful light show of psychedelics. Mushrooms are more like tribal drums beating so loudly that the vibrations resonate within your soul and cause your whole perception of existance to shake and spiral right out the window. Im not down playing the effects of LSD exactly, I have had MOST profound visions and feelings from it, but they just arent quite 'there' for me in terms of getting to the very essence of what you are.
Of course, I've heard the exact same description of LSD from friends and strangers alike, so obviously we all feel it in our own way. But out of my personal experience, which is quite vast to be honest, Magic Mushrooms are my trip of choice, wether the trip is actually fun, or not. They teach me in a way that LSD just doesnt. -

 

I don't want to argue or something, it is just something I noticed recently. After I tried DMT, I could get similar effects on LSD, witch was not the case before. I think we are all going to the same goal, just using different pathes. I think that drugs are opening certain "doors" or barriers in our mind and once it is opened, you can use it always. I am quite opposite from you Relayer (at least I was, I don't know now because I didn't do shrooms since I did DMT), I always had much better trips with LSD than with shrooms, but again saying the best trips were when I took them together. Maybe you should do DMT, or do more LSD and shrooms together in order to open that little "door". I am again saying I don't want to make an argument as we are all different (but so same hahaha) but we are all here sharing our expiriences, and lately (after DMT) I got that feeling about using other drug to unlock the door for lsd, or mushroom or whatever else, and than to continue using your favourite drug, but with one (at least) more open door (or barrier, or possibility).
We can all experiment together and share the expirience and see the results.

 

Yea, Shapes we are all just getting different reactions to the same chemicals.
But honestly the last time I took LSD and Mushrooms together, I took several hit's of LSD at 7pm and an eigth of mushrooms at 12am, and again another eighth at 5am just before sunrise, and if we are talking in terms of REAL tripping, I didnt even start going to God until 5:30am that morning.
Dont get me wrong the LSD was very descent stuff, but I dont get off on it like I do with mushrooms.
And really man, I know about the 'door' you are all getting at, trust me, I know! But on that same note, couldnt I just as easily say that maybe you guys havent gone through the same 'door' I have with mushrooms? I wouldnt say that because I dont make assumptions, but I KNOW what LSD is about my friends, lol Im just saying personally mushrooms take me closer to God then any other substance ever has, and repeatedly.

 

Don't get me wrong man,
I am just trying to give you some idea, like you are trying to give me some idea. And I will try to do what you told me, to eat as much mushroom as I can find and see what happens. Did you ever try DMT? If you didn't, you have to, I promise you it will open to you something new. One guy (60 year old, and I consider him my guru) is saying that what you feel on LSD you can see on DMT. In other words, you know that we all can't find words to explain the feeling, but what DMT is doing to you is that it uses our common 5 sences to show you the "feeling" that we are failing to explain by the words.
Also, when I was taking shrooms and acid together that took me to God (as you like to say), I did them all at once, I first ate all the mushroom and than took acid, so the time difference was aroud 15 min, and they both started working togehter, fighting each other witch one will hit me the most. When you let one of them "catch" you before the other one, you become so used on that way, so the other one doesn't have any chance. As you said you only started going to God around 5:30, when LSD was loosing its power and you switched to shrooms. You don't need to try it or whatever, I am just sharing my expirience. They need to start working about the same time, than you go to God with first class flight hahaha.

 

Shapes, I feel you my man!
To answer your first question, no, DMT smoked and most of the RC's are the only psychedelics I have yet to try. Im sure I would love it! But as of yet the only place I've heard any of my friends getting it was at Red Rocks concert, which I couldnt attend due to my son just having been born. But I guess everything happens for a reason! :tongue:
As for the second question, I've dosed L and shrooms at the same time more than once, I was just pointing out my last trip when I was originally not going to eat my friends shrooms (he wont try L!) but changed my mind later into the peak. Also, ever try L and MDMA? Is all I can say haha. -
Your right though man sorry for trying to turn this into an argument. We all have our own experiences and we should not make assumptions about each others.
But I dont know, I cant say for DMT, but meditation and even the early stages of samadhi I've attained were MUCH more revealing to me than any psychedelic. But I havent tried DMT yet so I wont make any judgments -

 

Does the whole "omg I lost my entire mind and must now put it back together" effect of LSD become less prominent after multiple goes? Or do you just get better at putting it back together each time? From LSD like 1.3 months ago, I still feel like I'm trying to track down a few loose pieces.

I really wish I had an old psychadellic guru around here I could go consult.

Mushrooms though, they never did that to me. Mushrooms got me fucked out of my mind but. When I came down I felt like I found myself more.

 

You see, what happens is that, as I said many times, LSD is removing barriers in your mind so you can "feel" other things beyond our 5 common sences. Every time you expirience this, you are more and more aware what is happening to you, and more and more you really feel like at home. You become familiar with theese "feelings" and you don't have "omg I lost my entire mind" effect. It is more like, you just use other way of comunicating with everything that surrounds you. And the more you use it, more you are familiar with it and better you can express yourself and you better understand "other things or persons" expressions.
Look at it like this. English is not my native language, and when I first heard it, I didn't understand it at all and started panicing what this guy wants from me. Than you start learning that language and more you are using it, more you are familiar with it and better conversation you can make. Now, after living 7 years in English speaking region, it is almost now like my native language. So, what you are asking now about how you feel on acid, I can tell you that you are learning to speak and write English
That is why some guru's can take significant amount of acid and you can't really say that they took anything, because once you learn "language", you can't just forget it over the night.
Look at the mushrooms as different "dialect" of the same language. You see, when you meet somebody from Scotland, you have some difficulties to understand him completely, but more time you are spending with him, you are getting more used on his dialect, you even start copying his dialect so he can understand you better. You know what I am talking about, and I guess this helped you.

Concerning your wish to have your guru here, you do! We are all here guru's to each other in a way, just depends who speaks witch "dialect" so it is easier to understand. Sometimes you agree with this one, sometimes with that one, but generaly people here speak same "language", just choose your "dialect"

 

I never really considered a mushroom trip "intense". For me, hallucinations have never really been that far-fetched, like things morphing into other things that resemble what it actually is.

With acid, I've seen everything from neon flowers sprouting from a blanket to everything I see going black and white and two-dimensional while trying to drive my car. Plus taking enough acid makes me straight up STUPID. My mind just ceases to function, like to the point I can barely talk.

I don't know man, the world just seems like a completely different place when you're tripping hard on acid, so I'd say it's more intense. Mushrooms just kinda fuck you up.

 

I guess one way I can put this, if it makes sense to anyone, is with LSD, my last trip for example on 8 hits which a member he can testify to it's stregnth if he so wishes, only automatically takes manifested energy as an internal, bzzzzzzzzzzzz sound that morphes on it's own audibly but unless I focus, it never 'breaks through' to the pure energy. Again, if I focus, it does, but only if I focus. Whereas with magic mushrooms, Om, the communion with this energy, not just hearing it, but total communication, was brought to me automatically and was just so profound and emotional, and this was on 3 grams lol. I had never even understood Om as a concept from an outsider viewpoint prior to that moment. And no drug has ever brought me closer, only through meditation and in moments of descending awareness do I commune with it. Trust me, communing with Om is by far one of the hardest accomplishments of the initial stages of Self-Realization, and very few people can just bring it on immediatley.
Remember Siddartha, how he goes to commit suicide late in life, and all of a sudden, he hears it? It comes like that, unannounced and automatically and it needs the proper channels to make manifest to you. Mushrooms did this for me, LSD did not, that's basically why I say mushrooms are more intense. For ME!!!!!