Warm tightening sensation in my brain stem

Discussion in 'LSD - Acid Trips' started by neodude1212, Dec 4, 2007.

  1. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    what is that feeling? why does it do that and is there any lasting physical effects from it? also, i've heard acid is stored in your spine and you could relapse at any time. is that true? just some questions.
     
  2. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    The myth of LSD being stored in your spine is untrue, pure and simple.
    Let me ask you before I get into details about the brain stem sensation, do you know anything at all about yoga or your charka system?
     
  3. ManaSmoker

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    http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/lsd/lsd_myth1.shtml
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drug_urban_legends

    Read both, don't be misinformed man, there is too much stupidity out there regarding acid, I don't want you to be another sheep like the rest of the fools.
     
  4. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    umm no i dont really know anything about yoga or the charka system. plz explain.
     
  5. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Honestly, I cant do it lol. I dont have the time or the space on a single thread. I would suggest, if you really want an answer to your question, to look into reading up on kriya yoga. It is a means with which to conceive of your own divinity. The spine has 7 charkas, or focal energy points (in physical terms, the main junction of nerves at each point) in which energy is stored, and if yoga is not practiced, properly, the energy can not flow freely within and without you. To direct this energy back to it's source is to wake up in the mind of God. But being that I know from your other posts you are a Christian in practice, I dont know how well this will sit with you. There is a member of this site, Yogi Bhairava, whom I could point you to if you'd like. It is a complex system that is so deep I can do no justice to it by partially explaining it here. But basically it's meditation and prayer upon the chakra system in order to let it flow down, then back up, accumulating at the crown and illuminating your Soul. But it takes deep focus and concentration and much self discipline to get the proper results, which many people do not seem to be willing to try. I dont know, maybe you can give it a shot? It's universal as yoga means Soul-Union, and does not interfere with any religious belief systems, for even Jesus Himself never claimed that we can not yoke the soul to God. It is His disciples to this day who refute that concept. -
     
  6. MovedOn

    MovedOn Senior Member

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    someone is petting you on the head ;)
     
  7. elfin1mf

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    HAHAAH YES EXACTLY!!
    I can remember the first time I felt this way. I was still very permafried and had just got a couple ounces of some very good sativa, really choice nugs. I hit a massive bong load and in about 30 minutes I started feeling like I was communicating with a higher power. My brain stem started feeling tremendous pressure and I got the image in my head that I was a robot and my spinal chord was the antenna which I was being controlled through. My head began to feel like my entire brain was boiling violently and about to pop. I layed down and listened to a couple voices in my head which where extremely introspective and critical of the robotic functions of chemical reactions in my brain which where controling many aspects of my life back then. For the next few hours I knew that every thought or urge I had was a chemical reaction in my brain and that I could choose to ignore it, and listen only to the introspective voice in my head which seemed to talk to me independantly and not be a part of my own thoughts. This was about 8 months ago at least. I actually stopped smoking weed a couple weeks afterwards because I started to see that the weed itself was a chemical which my brain was depending on. Havent done any drugs including weed since then, other than the drugs my brain/body produces in a calm physical state and the chemicals which foods are made up of.
     
  8. Shredda_King

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    I've had a feeling similiar to that before after smoking top-notch bud. I think it's your brain swelling up so much from being so high, that you feel like it's about to pop.
     
  9. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    hmm relayer and here i just thought yoga was like....stretching and shit.. haha. let me clear some things up too. i've only done acid once before. but im thinking about doing it again this weekend. i haven't really decided if it was a good thing or not. it seems like it changed me. i dunno this stuff is hard to figure out.
     
  10. Shapeshifter

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    Its not hard at all, but only when you don't try so hard to figure out. By trying to figure it out, you are "arresting" energy on one spot and not letting it flow naturaly, and even after the trip you might feel some pain on the spot where you "arrested" the energy. Some people complaining about head, some saying shoulders, some have problem with legs,arms... Try to relax you body completely, and try not to think about anything. It is very hard not to think about anything, but it is a good practice to start with meditation, and to let energy flow naturaly. You'll pick it up from there on your own if you are still interested.
     
  11. elfin1mf

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    Oh ya! More great advice here. I like how you use the word arresting, they are "arresting" themselves with these thoughts and that is what the pain comes from.
     
  12. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    well ok here is the thing. i had absolutely no problems while I was ON the acid. the only problem was me and my friend took it at a really stupid time ( 5 AM) so i wanted it to end before it did. but i still had a good time. we sat in his car with the heater on full blast and listened to hardcore metal haha and i had all these crazy visions that made the world make a lot of sense. then i was seeing, dragons and that hindu god (u know the elephant guy with a bunch of arms) in all the bushes. i've always associated him with acid i don't know why so i saw him everywhere. he was in a bush and made up of rolling eyeballs. but anways when the sun came up, everything looked like i was watching HDTV. it was crazy i could see so clearly. But the next day....i realized how much of a bitch my gf is. and we dated for like 2 years. and just all of a sudden i don't like her b/c i realized she is so uptight. it just kinda sucks that i dont even like her anymore and acid just brought these feelings on so suddenly.
     
  13. Shapeshifter

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    It is always easier to people to point to somebody else and notice what others are doing. If they have a problem they first start looking around who is the guilty one for their problems. Very rare are people who first look in them selfes. I am not saying that you are this or that, but what I want to tell you is that you are the one who is changed after acid, not her. Try to find your self when you started this jorney, and when you manage that, you will be able to choose people that surround you with complete confidence, without that many supprises.
    Anyway, welcome to the family!
     
  14. MovedOn

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    Thats crazy, the elephant guy? That is Indra. I saw Indra on acid as well.

    I transported to this place, it seemed constructured of energy. It was like a temple of some sort, with a big pool of water. Indra sitting on the side. He kind of winked at me. Then I freaked out and popped back to reality.

    The correlation is really quite interesting, I've actually been reading about it since. Indra is the storm god. Weapon is the thunderbolt. Which to me, acid feels extremely electric. The association seems to make alot of sense.

    Wikipedia says hes described as brash and amorous. Which if you look up the definitions of those words. I say they quite describe the hippie generation well.

    Also he is the 'god of the lesser gods' the one who leads the war against those who deny the underlying order of nature (dharma). And I must say. LSD certainly did bring that aspect of people out.

    Also, Indra's Net. I was reading something from Alex Grey, where he said he saw Indra's Net and ever since it has been one of the prominent continuing theme of his work. Plus another guy on here, elfin was it? Said after acid he was experiencing the world in a Matrix-esque fashion, which of course I'm extrapolating and supposing things here. But I do believe the movie the matrix is a direct metaphor to the concept of Indra's Net.

    Ya, I'm kind of making lots of free-associated connections here. But I always thought of hallucinogens as like, having a spirit of some sort, having their own personality to them. That all Gods were sort of products of humanities contact with the various plant hallucinogens. That each new plant the ancient shamans encountered and came in communion with was sort of like, bringing to humanity a new God. Perhaps LSD, LSA possesses the spirit of Indra.
     
  15. neodude1212

    neodude1212 Senior Member

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    well....i had a problem with seeing indra. i scared me, but i kinda just accepted it. later on he turned into a dragon and then went away. but you see, im a christian, so i don't really believe in all this indra stuff. that's why i dont like seeing things like that. but, i dont think i really saw HIM. it's just i was thinking about him, cuz acid reminds me of him. like when i used to do x, i used to think about good and evil, so i would see demons trying to manifest the works of christ everywhere, and then i would become one with God and be good. just my way of coming up.
     
  16. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Wait are you guys sure you are talking about the right representation of God here? 'That elephant guy' could mean more than one thing. Indra, of course, ride's an elephant, one with severl heads. But so do other god's.
    Are you sure you dont mean Ganesha, the son of Parvatti and Shiva (Om namah sivaya)? Ganesha has the head of an elephant which would more accuratley fit the description of 'elephant guy'.
    And besides, Ganesha is the God of removing obstacles so it makes sense that even non hindus are seeing him on psychedelic trips, as, the last time I checked, the point and main function of psychedelics is to remove the obstacle of blindness, the veil that cover's your eyes from your soul -
     
  17. MovedOn

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    yes, its quite the big possibility I just imagined all that I typed
     
  18. neodude1212

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    well im not hindu....so i dont really wanna catch him invading my trips. lol "that elephant guy" really in all honesty he is scary as hell. when i saw him my heart felt like it stopped. i had this urge to go over there and at the same time run away. i mean he was huge. and relayer u remember that meditation position you told me to sit in? he was sitting like that. but he was just made up of thousands of eyeballs. and they were all rolling wildly, like an animal dying. like there was nothing he could not see, but at the same time it made him look like a pretty shady dude. all in all, very scary. not something i would expect from "a god".
     
  19. RELAYER

    RELAYER mādhyamaka

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    Yea I hear you. But God is everywhere you know? Since we all come from Him. So He is within even your psychedelic consciousness :tongue:
    The eyeballs though, that sounds beautiful man. I've seen the same thing, maybe it was representing how God IS everywhere and is seeing everything, through the viewpoint of everything? Maybe lol
    Was the elephant guy the human body with elephant head though? Because if so, that is definitley Ganesha. -
     
  20. neodude1212

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    yeah he had the elephant head and a human body. and a weird hat. but he has an elephant head but it wasn't elephant if that makes any sense. i mean he has the trunk and all but the eyes (the ones on the face) were very human. i mean, i wouldn't say it was beautiful, but idk. maybe it was. maybe i don't know what beauty is. it's just i've never seen something like that before so i attribute it to "scary" especially his body being made up of eyeballs *shivers*
     
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