Death experience, but not nessisarily bad trip.

Ok, first off I just though I would share my experience in here since you all would understand, other than just my 2 friends I did it with.
I took 2 sugar cube hits, without going into detail on how I got them lets just say they were the real deal. The come up was amazing and I had a weird good feeling in my chest and my legs were jittery I guess b/c I just felt so amazing. Wood grain had layers that pulled apart and floated into different directions, I saw such detailed patterns (in the ceiling that have those little chunks in em) that changed to music. Much more stuff but that’s not why I’m posting. Sounds plain and boring but only because I do not think the words exist to actually describe what I saw. The amount of detail in one inch of the ceiling was mind boggling and constantly changing, and the ceiling was in a huge den so there was a lot to take in. Also the word patterns will never mean the same thing to me again, again I just can’t describe I don’t know how. Sometime after the peak I smoked some Lambs Breath (MJ) if anyone has heard of that strand, if not find it and smoke it its amazing. Smoked a bowl and went right back up, but on the comedown from the bud sometime you just stair off into space... bad news. I started to stare off and could no longer move. The line between the ceiling and the wall became my heartbeat (the heart monitor lines, you know). All of a sudden it just became an excepted fact in my mind my 2 friends that were with me were no longer my friends; it was their bodies but someone else was in them. Like aliens or something, they were some kind of higher powers angels, demons, or something. It just became an excepted fact in my mind that they were. They began to strip everything away I had in life listing one thing after another. They named it and it was gone, I just believed it. Then one said, " Watch his face everyone looks like this when it is about to happen" Keep in mind im still seeing my heartbeat and don’t know what the hell is going on. He then says "your hearts slowing down” in a very sarcastic way, the other just laughs. I was starting to get the feeling I was going to pass out, I was sweating and beyond scared. Then the heartbeat stopped. Everything was gone, I was dead. It became apparent that I died and was stuck in my apt with my 2 friends in the den and a TV in an acid trip forever. It was just a fact that was truth. I had accepted the fact I was dead and that was where I would spend eternity, in this trip with my 2 friends that had turned to some other beings. I sat there for about 2min and tried to understand what was happening, I then thought, no. No, this is not how it happens this is not how it will end. This whole time I was so scared I couldn’t move but at this point I was starting to get pissed off and though to myself Fuck This, no way. Forced myself up off the couch, with my friends asking where I was going, and that I couldn’t leave. I ignored them and walked outside at which point I began to realize it was just the acid and was not happening. Walked back in an my friends were back to normal and asked why I looked like I had seen a ghost, I just said I was feeling dizzy. Took about a day to recover from that, it was so real. Ever since then I have taken nothing for granted, my outlook on life has changed for the better, Im kinder to people and Im happier to be alive. I pretty much died and came back for a second chance. I know it was just a trip, and do not believe that is what happens when you die, obviously, but it was a learning experience (understatement). Will I do acid again? Probably. Will I take 2 hits and smoke? No.
Anyone else experience something like this?

 

Almost had the exact same experience. The friend i was with remained pretty normal though, but i did sence he was not his normal self, he was tripping also.

I think they call it ego death, when everything vanishes, and you remain a freespirit for x time. Scary shit though man, i thought i was going to die, but couldnt keep focused on dying enough to actually take it seriously.

And those audio halucinations are fucked man, i get them occasionaly now while not on anything.

 

So did i experience ego death? I mean in my mind i was totally convinced I had died. It is something you cant imagine. No real words come to mind but just intense/scary. This was only a few min long the rest of the trip was everything I ever wanted a drug to be. I mean I saw music. Both of my friends were tripping too (2hits also), after i realized it was just a trip I was worried for them, asking if they went through anything weird? I old them a few days later what i really went through, I was trippin balls but not stupid to tell them what had happened when they were still trippin.

 

Did it start out as neon dots floating at the point where the dual vision of the eyes meet? And was it sort of like, atom blossoms blooming out of your focal point, mutating into trillions of different cell-like composed entities and images? The last time I tripped (this has happened on every trip since I was 14 and gets more detailed as time goes by) I described it as breaking open atoms in between my fingers (which were in prayer position as I was meditating) and being exposed to the code of existance, then 'dying' because it was too overwhelming :tongue:
If this is what happened to you, or similar, then it is nothing more (haha) than the beginning of the opening up of your 3rd eye to the light of Creation Look deeper with every trip, and if you meditate daily you will see it even while sober.
Om shanti and Namaste Family -

 

this sounds like something that would be more interestng if u put it in music or poetic form.. becuz otherwise ur just babbling instead of healping connect, but thats just 2 explain y u cant properly explain it.. no it sounds like a good song though.

 

haha that's an awesome story. lol. once i died when i was taking triple c's. my friend and i were sitting outside in his drive way tripping and he wanted to go inside (which i did not want to do for some reason) so i was already in a bad state of mind. but inside he has this big whose-your-daddy mirror, and it caught my eye as i sat down. as soon as i saw that i began to feel like i was dying, b/c i finally understood myself and the world so my life was complete. everything kinda grew outward and everything inside the room was miles away from me until my spirit just kind of floated up. then i thought i dont wanna die on drugs and i was back in my body. weird huh?

 

Yep, but no neon light just straight up forms and shapes, colors, leaves, gears, people, complete stories following music that was too much to take in at once. As far as saying there are no words to describe it, I guess there are but I could honestly write you a 10 page paper on just the shit I saw to one song, Numb. There was always one point in the exact center of the ceiling everything came out of. I Like a 3D living story that kept unfolding. And it was completely different to every song, Im mean totally different. I was like I wonder what this would look like if i stood on a chair. So I jumped on a stool and my head was touching the ceiling and it looked like it when up 40ft and pieces of it were dropping/melting down, Looked like a cathedral or dome, with all the acid images on it and changing. Some of the stuff was so insane I was getting that feeling like if you won the lottery.
Oh and as for just blabbering, lol, sorry about that just a long story. And the first post is just the cliffs. Ill put it in a song for you as soon I i get to that, haha.

 

yeah, im just saying. its intriguing that experiences like yours are what trigger people to write music, because that might be their area of creativity. its like, in some music its not so much they use words but use sounds to explain visual sensations.. i wasnt trying to insult you though lol, idk if u took it that way? but yeah, it reminds me of pink floyd though. i cant say if they did lsd like syd because truthfully i dont know. but the essence of pink floyd i think, is the many sounds you hear as opposed to lyrics, that trigger visual mind perceptions. ya know?

 

yea dude you should definitely write a song about that..but i dont know i find acid a lot more beautiful and i dont really get negative thoughts while tripping..but yea i suggest you dont smoke anymore while you are tripping

 

No bongwater I completely understand what you are trying to say. Music makes more since to me now esp pink floyd, led zeppelin etc etc. I have been considering learning to play the guitar, putting that to music I could deff play what I felt. You have to do acid to understand what it means to be apart of music, to see music.

 

Oh and come.together that was the only bad part of the trip, the rest was simply amazing. I would do it again in a heartbeat, I couldn't take it all in that first time. There is story after story I could tell of different things I saw. That was just the only bad one.

 

Yeah that was def was some lavender-like stuff...very very good visuals. You were scaring me for a while though when you started to space out.

I know a lot of people smoke mj on lsd, but is it a unwritten rule that it is generally not a good idea to? I want to hear people's thoughts of smoking on lsd

 

i get them when have smoked a big fat joint, it's not even suprising me anymore. never had wild visual hallucinations on shrooms acid or salvia, but i always have audio hallucinations while being high on pot.

have you guys ever heard of Stanislav Grof, this is some kind of pioneer psychologist/psychonaut who has written a book on all kinds of of hallucinogenrelated experiences from himself of others. he also took part in the research on psychiatric usage of LSD in the fifties, first in the Czechoslovakia and later in California.

in one chapter he describes his experiences with LSD usage and a returning experience from his patients was that of re-experiencing the birth after having an ego death. this experience was triggered by handing over a super high dosage of LSD and the experience was in a locked and empty room. the patients were supervised by experienced people with a psychiatry related education. the real thing so to say. people really discovered trauma's related to their birth as was stated in the book, like some guy re-experienced how he almost died because he got stuck during the birth.

would the experience described at the beginning of this threath be related to this kind of experiences? man, there is so much to discover about what LSD actually does to people psychologically. those terms with which the LSD experience are objectively described like in general "people loose sense of reality" all that kind of crap, it's true but if you read a subjective experience on LSD you'll notice that the objectove description of an LSD experience hardly covers the experience itself

just some thoughts

 

That's pretty crazy. My first bad trip went kind of like yours, except I was outdoors. My LSD was coming in late for whatever reason, but smoking weed totally put the show on the road. After walking around for a while me and my friend (both tripping slightly), went inside his friends house because we were in the neighborhood, and I noticed the wall and shit was wiggling (we didn't just walk in the kids house, we said we were gonna meet up with him later, so it was okay for us to be going in and out of his house). I was definitely feeling different mentally but the visuals were not coming in. Then I smoked weed, and it hit me so fast, no trip has ever been quite the same. All I remember was the distortion was too much. Communication was useless, it was almost like voices were super-slow slurred words, and since they were so altered, my mind tricked me into what the words actually were, so it seemed like my friends were trying to fuck with my trip (even though they were still in a more controlled-trip state of mind), even though they were trying to help me out as I was just acting frantically. To make matters worst, the visuals were so tight I could not focus on there faces at all, it seemed like they were demons. Either way, I had definitely experienced ego death, and so have you. But if you think that was intense, imagine doubling the amount you took. It's hard to handle sometimes, lol. I just kept thinking I had to have been dead and just constricted to the area I was in for whatever amount of time remained, which was eternity at the time.

It always seems like the trips all about you, even though everybodys in their own lost state of mind. The heartbeat thing I found weird, but it happens for me when I'm just high.. Not as visual as when on LSD obviously.. but if I focus on my heartbeat it actually feels like it just keeps getting slower and slower, but I don't worry about passing out and dying, because of my last death-like experience I just try and keep it as a known fact that I took no where near a lethal dose of whatever I'm on, and to actually die from it would probably cause a phenomena of new propaganda.

 

it was an experience - you actually experienced something very profound. it wasnt "just a trip" - it wasnt just the acid. this experience was you on LSD. your mind and your reality on a drug. what happened was real enough i am sure. you tripped yourself out and took yourself for one hell of a ride. not every trip will be like that - you made it like that. maybe you like to freak yourself out? i know i do sometimes!

i have had similar experiences - i have actually had it a little worse a few times but like you i came out a better person in some way.

not only should you take 2 hits and smoke again but you should up it to 3 hits and smoke weed when you are comfortable with 2.

that kind of trip only happened to you because you did it to yourself. next time steer your trip to a better place. all it takes is a little bit of fear to send you over the edge. and once over the edge it only takes letting go of the fear to return to a good place. next time you probably wont be as afraid because now you know that even if the trip goes real bad you will still be ok, right?

 

Swoosh, thats exactly how it was for me my friends were just talking but I though they were conspiring against me, and come to find out they though I was fucking with them. LOL.

3xi, yea I just didn't know what was going on. After the bad trip I still had more but I knew what it was and just went with it. I would just go off on some trip and come back and be like that was amazing and ask my friends how long I had been laying there tripping out. And It just happened I was in a completely safe and comfortable place, nothing negative at all I was having an awesome time and it just happened. I probably shouldn't have driven around on it but I drove fine, and have a new found connection with my car lol.

 

Lmao yeah, my best friend who was right there tripping with me (but no where near as hard), still had it in him to try and calm me down, and just offer to get me some shit to drink and what not. But to me, everytime I looked at his face it would alter into a head the size of my whole field of vision, and then the smile would form.. but a smile where you knew (or at least believed) they were up to something evil and suspicious.. I didn't trust drinking the water.. But I did and didn't see the point as to why we ate and drank.. Talk about an opened state of mind.

Not to mention these kids were restraining me because we were in a back yard at a time of night we weren't supposed to be, in an area in the world where crime rate is high and officers are usually patrolling through the neighborhood.. I was actually in a stupid spot to be tripping :-\ But usually am everytime I trip. (I guess it leaves me potential to have a good experience, not that I haven't). Everytime I would stand up they would say "Just stay seated man, you are freaking out and we don't want to get caught". And I thought I got stuck in a loop hole and couldn't leave. But eventually I just went with it and closed my eyes.. Talk about a world of confusion with closed eye visuals.. Illogical items being placed on top of weird backgrounds that were slightly symmetrical and curved.

But even after that 10 minutes of relaxing and out-of-this-world visuals, I basically did what you did too, eventually got into this (you can't control me state of mind), and totally just ran out of the area. But they got me the first time I ran and asked what I was doing, I convinced them to answer every question I had and I felt at home again, but was still sketched out as if they were plotting against me. Eventually I faked myself becoming sober, and ended up at another friends house across town (biked there)... and then still not totally understanding why I was at my friends house, and I kept feeling like any minute I would just 'snap out' of the realm of confusion I was in, and end up back where my friends were trying to control me and shit.. Weirdest thing ever. All I remember thinking was "If i survive this, I have the wildest story to tell", and you really do believe it at the time. Definitely wasn't too too wild, but I did get sucked into all my delusional beliefs about people around me.

I basically created my own reality on top of my current reality, plotting against their schemes to run my own scheme. I acted in my normal unquestioning state of mind to make them think I was okay to leave, even though I was still MAD screwed up, and then ended up going to someones house and not understand why I was.. I basically thought I was getting away from people who were making me feel dead, idk. I was just so messed up, it took me 2 days after coming down to feel normal again.

 

Thats crazy. I had the exact same mind set, but it fortunately only lasted for that short bad trip. I tried to fake sober and be like im fine, then I was like no im still stripping balls. The weird this was, I has such intense visuals and hallucinations I never once closed my eyes, I wish I would have now. Next time I will for sure.

 

Yeah.. its hard to remember if you are experiencing ego death.. But I was so shook up by everything I was feeling, I just sat back in my seat and closed my eyes hoping I'd fall asleep and wake up with it over.. or go to sleep and wake up regular.. just so many intense feelings at once.. But trips like that makes me want to try it again (having trips of that magnitude) to see if I can handle it better the next time around..

Fun Fun, CEV's are definitely freaky though sometimes.. especially when your visuals start painting a scenario behind your eyes and you think you are actually seeing it..