LSD along with Death/Black Metal

And the -core has genre's within itsself. If you knew enough about -cores to talk shit about them, you'd know Cradle of Filth has no affiliation with them. COF though imo is garbage, and I like the -core's, maybe not as much as I use too, but I definitely like a few bands that are newer and under them extensions. Pretty much bad reference, I don't think theres many people who like -core's who like COF. If I'm misunderstanding you though, and it's COF calling themself a -core, that would be a pretty bad label to put themselves under. I wouldn't even call them metal, I'd call them suck.

 

I never called them -core, I called them horrible wanna be black metal. And I do admit, for my extreme hate for most -core genres, I do like a few deathcore bands like Despised Icon because they can combine death metal and hardcore without it becoming deathcore and The Red Chord because they are mostly metal, and are doing something new and innovative, unlike most deathcore bands who consist of the same few progressions and breakdowns.

 

Why are you stereotyping the people who listen to certain kinds of music? I mean if you are going to talk about music and genre's, why do so in such a narrow-minded manner? (I agree they get a lot of hype and have set a trend for certain kids, but it's not ALL what it's about, and I'd think it's safe to say a lot of genre's eventually die out.. but to call -core's strictly about fashion.. eh, or at least imply anyway) It really is silly how virtually everywhere on the internet that the -core's always become so controversial (nobody can post a -core video without criticisms anymore on youtube). It's almost like people are trying to label everybody who likes newer materials. I guess it's safe to say people don't listen to the music for the sound of it anymore? Well, I guess i'd prove that questions insinuation incorrect so I won't imply it in any serious form.

I like many of the -core extensions, and have many friends who do themselves, but would never even came close to dressing what you have listed, nor have any want/need too. I agree that most of the kids trying to play the -core stuff will die out (honestly the local shit I hear is garbage), but the genre definitely has good feedback by a lot of 'normal listeners', if you'd like to refer it to that. I personally love break downs, and I use to like metal a lot too, however I feel the combination of the both makes some very intense music, that I enjoy listening too. Some bands have established a good name for themselves, even being a -core.

I think grindcore is corny though, especially the more black-metal oriented ones. Some grindcore can sound good if it's being combined with the hardcore/metalcore fields, but when they are doing pig squeels (that don't even sound good), and have a death metal beat rhythm (which really doesn't even sound like good death metal), .. garbage, and a mockery of the genre.

I see where you are going with your point, but there definitely is a lot of bands who have a unique sound, and don't switch to indie like chorus's in the middle of no where.. but they are usually the bands who have other types of labels.. I really do like the experimental stuff that's been released, definitely different.. trippy

Sorry if i sound like i'm trying to be a dick anywhere, i'm just trying to be straight forward.. I just don't like the generalizations made on the genre, cause there are still quite a few people who listen to the music as just music.. not a lifestyle. But there are different kind of fans, the fans who read everything about every band member of their fav. band and have posters and shit.. I never really go that far into them.

 

Yes, there are people who listen to it for the music, but I haven't seen a lot of them. The same people who were listening to the other stuff before are now listening to deathcore. The trend just goes along. And most of the time I have no problem if they dress that way, because a lot of my friends do. I was just using it as an example.

 

Idk different neighborhood around here then I guess. I don't see many kids in my neighborhood getting sucked into any subcultures or whatever the name is for that.

 

Yeah my area is basically the biggest group of trendies ever. Theres the gangsta ass mofos, the Catholic school yuppies, and the hXc tuff guys that were once into nu metal.

 

you're an idiot.

 

Explain that.

 

yeah i second that your an idiot.

deicide did nothing for metal other then spew out there satanic shit. cannable corpse i will agree with, at the gates ect ect these guys were the pioneers for deathmetal as we know it today. music is a personal taste so im not gonna argue about how good cradle of filth are. i been in and out of deathmetal/ grindcore bands as a vocalist and guitarist for 6 or 7 years(probably longer then youve been listening to metal). i stayed in one for 3 and half years and played over 100 big shows, i know my genres of metal and hardly part of any "trend". how can you even lump bands up into genres like considering most are influenced all very differently IE. grindcore bands throwing a bit of jazz into there songs.

you obviously have no clue about "metal" or the history of metal whatsoever.

and for the record FUCK NU-METAL dont even bring that shitty shit into the equation

 

I think Unearth's genre is metal-core just because they have breakdowns. To me unearth is good metal, breakdown or no breakdown

i'm reading everyones post about melodic metal, and combining it with death metal, then taking out death metal, putting in trash metal and adding breakdowns...like what the fuck who gives a shit. It's fucking metal, some of it's good and some of it sucks. Dont you guys get confused with all the names. Thrash metal can be melodic at times doesnt make it "melodic metal"...death metal can have breakdowns and that doesnt make it death metal-core...its metal...




and just to go with the crowd on this one...nu-metal isnt metal at all period end of story. Why it's even called nu-metal is beyond me. Nu-metal translates directly into mainstream, candycoated, locker-room blaring, frat kid bullshit in psychmyke language.

 

if you ever listened to death metal you would go into an extremely bad, bad trip. only mellow and/or happy music should be listened to while tripping. hell, if you're going to play death metal, you might as well dress up in a grim reaper outfit while you're at it. maybe even get a nice scythe to play with to help keep your mind off the bad trip a little.

sorry if i sound cocky. just trying to emphasize what a bad idea that would be lol

 

ive listened to all kinds of metal on a trip and not had a bad trip, although i do get an odd flashback when i watch a certain video that i watched on acid once. the colors in the shades of lights in the video never seemed the same again

 

To anyone who said it would be a bad idea, they dont know what they are talking about.

It is easy to say it would be a bad idea if you didnt like metal, but what about the people who do enjoy listening to it?

I consider metal to be good to listen to while high because it has catchy, regular rhythms which help make a good trip because the brain can cope better with regualr rhythms if you know what I mean, kind of hard to explain.

Metal is not all about evil things. anyone who listens to metal will are lots of happy melodies in the music as well, and will listen to the music, not the image of the band.
Many people infact just laugh at the somewhat comical image of the bands and laugh at the over the top screams and insanely fast guitar solos.

Personaly I prefer simplistic music when high. I often listen to a lot of black metal- like Dimmu Borgir when high/tripping and some doom metal too.

To the origonal poster, If you like metal, than listen to it.
Its better to keep an open mind rather than being in fear because people told you it is "bad" music to listen to while high.

 

Well considering Legion is a monumental album, I'd have to disagree with you that they only spew satanic shit. As a musician, you should know that lyrics aren't everything. What about the sound and ideas they put out through their instruments? Sure it was released in '92, but that doesn't mean it isn't influential at all. I haven't heard a single copy cat band of Deicide's, but its not like that sound influenced those of say Blood Red Throne or even Cryptopsy. And I guess the deathcore scene is different in your area because the same kids that were listening to Slipknot 5 years ago , started listening to Killswitch Engage, All That Remains, etc. etc, 2 years ago, and are now listening to Job for a Cowboy and other "grindcore" bands.

By the way, what do you consider grindcore?

 

This is actually sort of an interesting topic...

Cause I was just going back through my library of music, which goes all the way back to freshmen year of high school. Which back then I was REALLY into extremely angry thrash and death metal. And listening to this stuff I used to really like, and also meditating. Ya it's weird to consider meditating with death metal. But like I said it's quite interesting because, it really brings up alot of the old hateful feelings I used to have. Lets me analyze them again.

One of my favorites of the genre and actually, first favroites is Acid Bath
I don't know if thats really death metal or black metal though.

 

That really, really depends on your music taste. I listened to some of the most misantrophic hateful underground black and death metal in trips and I loved it, it felt great to listen to it. It didn't put me in a bad trip at all. I also saw my boyfriend morphe into a demon once and i loved it.
It just depends what kind of person you are. Most of my trips I listened to metal, because it is wahat I listen to most sober. If its your music taste, it
should be absolutely fine.
I for example can't stand ambient bleepy music when I'm tripping, and a lot of people love that. I do however like the fast insane dark psy trance when I'm tripping. It depends on the taste.

What makes you feel good? Listen to thát, not to what makes other people feel good.

 

Well, the music that is most suited for tripping is psychedelic rock. Psy-trance and those other weird genres just stemmed out for trippers who like trance and techno.

Metal... If i listened to MTV, a metal station or any other shit like that while tripping, i would probably kill myself or someone else. well I would be depressed to say the least.

 

You should listen to whatever music that you like, when you are tripping. (IMO)

 

You should listen to whatever music you like, when you are tripping. (IMO)

 

You shouldnt steer clear of a particular type of music just because you're trippng. If you like metal sober you will LOVE metal tripping. If you dislike it sober you will HATE it tripping.