I might sound like an excited weed noob, but I've been smoking 1-4 grams a day for about half a year and my THC tolerance is starting to become more significant. I started smoking joints, then I bought a pipe thinking it was more efficient. I was smoking those for a bit, until I started liking the bubbler I used to use for smoking salvia (With no water), before I got really into weed. For some reason, I felt that that was getting me the...uh..."Highest.", but a few days ago I bought a bong, and it kicks ass. It's my favorite way to smoke now. It feels so nice, and I seem to get way higher off smaller amounts. 2 big hits has me high, And I feel pretty ripped at about 1 gram, ...fills about two bowls, I think. Anyway, I read this study on a site called "Maps," or something, and they discovered that an unfiltered joint will allow the smoker to take in higher amounts of THC while using smaller amounts of weed. The percentage of THC that enters your body out of the total amount, is called the THC Transfer, apparently. Here are the conventional smoking methods they recorded in order of highest THC Transfer (*See my second post for correction*): 1) Unfiltered Joint 2) Bong 3) Waterpipes (A "Bubbler" I'm assuming.) "Disappointingly, waterpipes performed uniformly worse than the unfiltered joint. The least bad waterpipe, the bong, produced 30% more tar per cannabinoids than the unfiltered joint ... This suggests that water filtration is actually counterproductive, apparently because water tends to absorb THC more readily than other, noxious tars." "The study results are obviously discomforting to waterpipe enthusiasts, many of whom prefer the cooler, milder smoke they produce, and have naturally assumed it is also more healthful. Unfortunately, however, the study indicates that waterpipes may actually be counterproductive in increasing consumption of carcinogenic tars." Although, from a different study, the bubbler is found to be most efficient, with a joint very close behind, and the bong being the least efficient. : s 1) Bubbler 2) Unfiltered Joint 3) Bong " The unfiltered joint scored surprisingly well in smoking efficiency, coming in second place with a transfer rate close to 20%. The portable waterpipe did slightly better, and the bong slightly worse." I had an urge while high, to learn more about bongs, because I wanted to know why I seemed to be getting "Higher" when smoking a bong. I think now, though, that I think I'm getting higher, because I inhale more smoke, and of course more THC per hit. Then I think, "Oh man, I'm already feelin' it after only one hit." And if I were to smoke a joint instead, I might only start feeling high around 4 (Obviously smaller) hits. Anywho, I thought I could do some people a favor and share what I've learned, in a more condensed post. Discuss if you want. ; )
I realized how true this is when about two weeks ago I had smoked a joint with a friend after a long-ass time of only smoking with glass pieces and we were both surprised at how high it had gotten us after the few hits we took.
Very interesting article. Nice post. So with some lungs with greater heat tolerances... we could go to the moon.... =P.
I thought it was good, but the two efficiency lists seem to be contradictory. I think, though, that the second list is actually for the THC Transfer Rate, and the first one is just for the elimination of toxicants and/or general smoking efficiency. http://www.canorml.org/healthfacts/smokestudy.html Here's the article in full if anyone wants to make sure I have it right. If not, please post and let me know. ; p
Well simply being insoluble doesn't mean absolutely 0% absorption in water, just extremely low. However I do agree that the difference between the solubility of THC and other insoluble substances couldn't alone account for the differences in smoking efficiency.
Finally, a fucking scientific, intelligent, well thought out thread. You would think bongs are more efficient, because the rips are so smooth you can inhale much more smoke, it doesn't mean the smoke it loaded with more of that wonderful drug. I like it, and from personal experience, I'd anecdotally say list 1 is right on the transfer rate. Well done.
so many aspects go into this. through a joint/blunt, you're required to smoke as much as you put in there(.5-1.0g) even though you don't need to smoke half of it, just saying a majority of stoners would smoke it all. also, the paper from the joint/blunt and the constant inhalation can cause you to feel more higher. in my opinion, bongs will always get me the highest.
Joints dont get your more high...and certainly dont use less weed. A good joint is about a gram and will get me high. A good bowl is about .25 and will get me stoned. Hmm I wonder which I would rather smoke out of
My thoughts exactly. I just use a pipe. You can load a little and get a very pleasant bake without wasting a gram+ of weed. I've smoked only shared 2 joints since I started smoking 2 years ago and I just definitely prefer the pipe for myself. Hell, if someone has one out though, I'll take a hit.
Why smoke a joint and let a good amount of THC be wasted when the smoke rises off the joint itself between hits? The most efficient way i would think is to smoke out of a plain ol bong. I just don't believe that the water from a bong has no THC from all the smoke being transfered out of it, even though im aware of the fact that THC isnt water soluble, im still skeptical whether or not absolutely no THC is in the water.
