America will be attacked

YankN Burn: You've done your home work. Good for you ....

 

Yes the area within 100 km's of seatle is a prime target.

Who would be foolish enough to EVER think of nuking it?

The US SLBM force [alone..independent of icbm and b1/2 assets]
has AT LEAST 10 SUBS. with 200 warheads a sub ready to pop the
first idiot that attacked. 2000 warheads.
The politicians of other countries may be megalomaniacs.
But they are not insane.,

Do you realy think iran or north korea would settle for
killing 2 to 3 us cities in return for having their countries
turned into sheets of black glass?
Their is nowhere they could hide.
US penetrator warheads can dig out bunkers 2 kms below surface..

The US is currently the only nation on earth that can launch, sustain and win a nuclear war.
But they do not.
There is no profit in it...

Occam

PS
if any wnat a short lecture on what nukes are and how they are delivered.
pop me a line..
Spend 20 years researching it.

 

america IS being the aggressor. what the rest of the world is doing about it is the only thing anyone can do when faced with a superior force. it's called a bridge of pearls. and what that means is continuing to fall back in front of it until eventually its lines are so streatched out that it colapses internaly. and that is exactly what bush is walking us into, continuing to aggress as we are, attacking on any and every front no mater how many or how far, with what i suspect is also, to the objective of bringing about our internal colapse. not of weapons. those we could render the entire surface of the planet a liveless desert with, and still have leftovers to spare if the proccess didn't, as of course it would, destroy those too. but environmentally and economicly, which is what all this is at least partially to keep us from thinking about.

it's totally insane. but its a self serving mechanism that i really don't see anyone as being in control of, or capable of being. not that i couldn't be wrong about that last. i hope i am. but i'm far from convinced of it.

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Themnax

agree

Yes..What 'america' is doing it its more 'american institutions'
Corporate mechanisms like the arms industry.. personal agenda's
become global if one has enough power..[ie..hitler].
Most americans are just people like you and me.
So many young men and women in the armed forces..used for
personal agenda.
Every US serviceman/woman who dies, does so not to defend the US,
but to enact personal agendas of those with no ethics or morals.

Those that heavily influence US policy and actions. Have a creed.
"Power corrupts. But absolute power is actually pretty neat"

Maybe it is time

"For the tree of liberty to watered..........."

Occam

 

Any country or group that has nothing less to loose!

Those are great but once warheads are released it really does not matter too much what counter attack measures are in place, then end result shall be the end.

You have far more faith in thier mental status than I do.

Very much so, people have offered more to gain less. Look at the economy, the goverment, the people and thier history before you assume death means much to a person. Japan had men very willing to die for the cause, so has other countries. If backed into a corner and having nothing else left it will amaze you what a person might do.

I wish you would define "WIN" If China, any former member of the USSR was to wish to rumble the US could counter attack but the end would be the same.... THE END!

Oh I have some fantastic information myself and it all pretty well leads to nothing left.

 

Yank: Whats your take on Russia testing ICBMs that they claim can make it through the U.S. anti- missile defenses ? Thought Putkin was a buddy a few months ago ?
.....................Alaskan............

 

personally i feel russians sense threat. after russians suplied afghanistan with weapons and had bonds with many countries now on america's war list, they feel the need to prepare. you see, terrorists arent controlled by government, theyre random fools. saddams army isnt world famous, russia is. what if america threatened russia do stop its nuclear testing and development programes? you think they would go like iraq did? nope, it would be a real war, world war 3 perhaps even. no shape in preparing, but russia would not atack america just for the fuck of it. that country is on a slow way up since the days of soviet union, its fit for war, but not much gain from it- especially distant lands like US. so yes, the name america is making for themselves, the world should start preparing - no one knows who they will try to bust up for natural supplies like oil or w/e

 

Well I remember right before we actually went into Afghanistan the Russians had made it clear thru the BBC that if we invaded without thier consent a problem would be made. Well actually while he was standing next to a mobil missle launcher he stated that "if the US was seeking a war then we can supply one"

Its very logical that Russia would wish we not have much control in that area. Russia has oil and well if we controlled the middle eastern oil supply that is just one more thing for Russia to worry about.

The country I personally fear the most is China. the debt we have to them right now is seriously out of control and no way are we able to pay back. China has tactical nukes and it has been said before that if we strike first against Russia then China takes thier side, if they strike first then China takes our side.

Missle counter defense is great for show a one missle controlled situation but it has yet to be proved against the real deal. I still lean toward the best place to be if all hell broke loose is in a lawn chair with a beer at ground zero!

I think there has always been a threat though relaxed some until recent events. Russia took care of a middle east terror threat years ago and had the US done the same no issue would exist (that and if they minded thier own business). Remember though Russian did attack Afghanistan years ago and we supplied against them. (Remember Bin Laden was trained thru us during that time).

If we told Russian, China to stop nukes or else we would all have to deal with the for else.

 

the anti-missle defence, any actually being reliably functional at this point in time, is very highly probably an entirely mythical beast. i'm not saying not possible. just damd unlikely.

and probability versus possibility is the salient point being missed here.

america NEEDS to be boycotted, if not blockaided, until it stops bullying the rest of the world, but as far as being attacked directly with any serious likelyhood of signifigant damage being affected in that way, i'll give you the longest odds you can imagine and raise you some.

another crystal nockt dressed up to look like a forign attack, is always a real, and somewhat greater likelyhood.

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google false flag attacks

 

Russia is peaceful. Unlike America they never nuked another country. The "Cuba Crisis" was started in Turkey. Where America made a nuclear Launch pad close to Russia. Russia responded by installing one on Cuba.

And who ended the Cuba crisis? RUSSIA!

Why Are you Americans so afraid , ESPECIALLY of a backward low tech nation like Iran? Can't you accept the fact that you might not be the biggest hippies around?

 

America will be attacked because they think they are the world police. They think they can invade any country they like and then when the consequences emerge, they seek sympathy from the UK. my advice to America. sort your own country out before trying to save the world.


Though we condemn terrorists, it isn't hard to see who is picking the fight. America are like kids in the playground. They are basically asking for a fight. If that comes in the form of a terrorist attack. Well don't say the world didn't warn you.

 

I'm an American, and I'm not afraid of Iran. I am afraid of my government, however. We may not be the biggest "hippies" around, but it's home.

 

I agree. It has more to do with the government. Many Americans oppose Bush's policies. Only time will tell though. The Government of America has severely damaged America's reputation on the world. but I have to say that i don't get why in America, everything is large?

 

Thank you. Be careful not to confuse the American people with the American government. Though we are supposedly a democracy, the actions of our government are in no way reflective of the will of the American people. It's embarassing. Our government is picking fights, but it's not about terrorism, that's the crap they're trying to feed us and the rest of the world. It's about our government officials and their cronies making money by seizing oil in the middle east and bilking our tax payers to fund the war. Meanwhile the funding is lining their bank accounts, and our young service people aren't getting squat and are dying.

America being attacked is one of the last of my concerns.

 

Russia peaceful? sorry, i think you need to look up the latest newspapers on russia's relationship with europe which is far from peaceful, more like some lil cold war! of course the eu probably is not innocent either. i don't know to what extent it is true, but overhere in the netherlands we get a lot of scary news from the developments in russia and the diplomatic developments with russia

 

It is tensions between Russia and Europe yes. But that is cause of America. They want to build an interceptor defence shield. An insult to Russia.

 

Russia has tensions witht he US far before the shield issue and also with europe too.

The first real tensions were becuase the US supplied food and supplies to the Soviet controlled attempt to exterminate the people of Berlin (The Great Berlin Airlift)

 

This is a bit of a tangent, but I'm guessing a couple of you guys are from Holland. I never made it to Amsterdam, but I did make it to Holland when I was in the military about 25 years ago, and it was a memorable occasion. A buddy of mine was stationed in Belgium, just over the boarder, so we cruised over to Holland, and went into this bar, which was out in the sticks. From the outside, it reminded me of one of our red neck, shit kicker bars near where I live, but when we went inside, it was wild. Talking Heads, "Remain in Light" was cranking on the stereo, and a bunch of freaks with mohawks and such were hanging out, looking at us like we were from another planet cuz we had short hair (the military look). I guess they figured we were police or something. So then my buddy throws a twenty on the bar, and the bar tender pulls out a chunk of hash. My buddy heats it up, stuffs it in his pipe, and we start toking. A wave of relief crosses the bar, and next thing you know, everyone else is whipping their shit out, and passing pipes up and down the bar. Try that in America, and they'll throw you out on your ass.

 

hehehe that's a crazy story. dunno whether you will be able to find such places nowadays and maybe you were even lucky back than to find yourself in such a place. in my hometown there are no cafés were youc an smoke inside and only two bars allow their visitors to have a smoke in front of the bar...